The royal wives bear their husbands' full title?

[Anna_R]

At the time of her engagement, Letizia Ortiz was given the distinction of Doña, who's the equivalent of Lady.

Upon getting married, she acquired all of Felipe's titles and now she is: Princess of Asturias, Princess of Girona, Princess of Viana, Duchess of Mountblanc, Countess of Cervera and Lady of Balaguer

[Duchess]

Originally Posted by selrahc4

He was given the title Earl of Snowdon over a year after the wedding, when they were expecting their first child.

thanks for the clarification :)

[MoonlightRhapsody]

Originally Posted by GrandDuchess

If they had a son, the title would eventually pass to him. Lady Louise will always be a Lady, as it is just a courtesy title for her as the daughter of an Earl.

Peerages only pass in male lines I think, and I'm guessing that the Wessex title is not a title for life (meaning when the holder of the peerage dies, the peerage also dies), but I don't know how it will work then - because normally the title would then go to another male relative of the holder of the Wessex peerage... Very confusing, I think we could use an expert here!

I know that Queen Elizabeth II bestowed that title on Prince Edward upon his marriage. Now, when he passes on, wouldn't the title revert back to the Crown? His father, the Duke, has said that his title will pass on to Edward when he dies, but I hear that the title will revert back to the Crown then the monarch (either his mother, his brother, or maybe even his nephew!) would give the title to Edward?

Anyway, nice little side comment about titles, I'm glad that Alexandra of Denmark (Prince Joachim's ex-wife, not the cousin) has been bestowed her own title of Countess. I'm still not clear if she is now a princess in her own right; it seems like it because I would think that since she's divorced from Prince Joachim, Queen Margarethe was under no obligation to let Alexandra continue to be a member of the Royal Family and/or retain her title. So I would think that she was made a princess in her own right and that her title of Her Highness is completely separate from her former title of Her Royal Highness.

[Warren]

Originally Posted by GrandDuchess

If they had a son, the title would eventually pass to him. Lady Louise will always be a Lady, as it is just a courtesy title for her as the daughter of an Earl.

Peerages only pass in male lines I think, and I'm guessing that the Wessex title is not a title for life (meaning when the holder of the peerage dies, the peerage also dies), but I don't know how it will work then - because normally the title would then go to another male relative of the holder of the Wessex peerage... Very confusing, I think we could use an expert here!

Each Peerage has its own Letters Patent which details how the peerage can be passed on, or not. Most peerages follow in the male line, some have Letters Patent which stipulate it can pass through a female line (the best example here is Lord Mountbatten: his Earldom of Burma passed to his eldest daughter so she became Countess Mountbatten of Burma.)

As to what the Letters Patent say about the Earldom of Wessex, I have no idea. Perhaps with Royal peerages they make it up as they go along. Lady Louise (Wessex) is by all rights a Princess and HRH. There have been no Letters Patent denying her this rightful style and title as far as I know, just an announcement saying "she will be known as.." (sound familiar?).

Edward will become Duke of Edinburgh in due course, and not Charles as the eldest son, because Edinburgh is a Royal Dukedom, and the "rules" regarding this dignity appear to be very flexible!
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[selrahc4]

Originally Posted by Warren

As to what the Letters Patent say about the Earldom of Wessex, I have no idea. .

The title passes to males only as stated in the Letters Patent: "heirs male of his body lawfully begotten"

http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/sea...e&PageNumber=2

[selrahc4]

Originally Posted by Warren

Edward will become Duke of Edinburgh in due course, and not Charles as the eldest son, because Edinburgh is a Royal Dukedom, and the "rules" regarding this dignity appear to be very flexible!
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Prince Charles is the heir to the title Duke of Edinburgh. If he out-lives his father, he (Charles) will become the 2nd Duke of Edinburgh of the current creation of that title. There are permutations whereby Prince Edward could inherit the title. But, the most likely scenario is that at sometime the holder will become Sovereign at which time the title merges with the crown and a new creation can be made.

[Warren]

Originally Posted by selrahc4

Prince Charles is the heir to the title Duke of Edinburgh. If he out-lives his father, he (Charles) will become the 2nd Duke of Edinburgh of the current creation of that title. There are permutations whereby Prince Edward could inherit the title. But, the most likely scenario is that at sometime the holder will become Sovereign at which time the title merges with the crown and a new creation can be made.

Thanks for clearing this up selrahc4. I have seen on ERMB discussion about the "transfer" of the Dukedom of Edinburgh to Prince Edward, and the various possible scenarios. Like much of the esoterics within the House of Windsor, nothing is certain!

As the Wessex Letters Patent restrict the dignity to the male line it seems likely that Prince Edward will be the first and last Earl of Wessex in the current creation of this Royal title. Lady Louise is denied again!
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[Next Star]

Originally Posted by MoonlightRhapsody

I know that Queen Elizabeth II bestowed that title on Prince Edward upon his marriage. Now, when he passes on, wouldn't the title revert back to the Crown? His father, the Duke, has said that his title will pass on to Edward when he dies, but I hear that the title will revert back to the Crown then the monarch (either his mother, his brother, or maybe even his nephew!) would give the title to Edward?

Anyway, nice little side comment about titles, I'm glad that Alexandra of Denmark (Prince Joachim's ex-wife, not the cousin) has been bestowed her own title of Countess. I'm still not clear if she is now a princess in her own right; it seems like it because I would think that since she's divorced from Prince Joachim, Queen Margarethe was under no obligation to let Alexandra continue to be a member of the Royal Family and/or retain her title. So I would think that she was made a princess in her own right and that her title of Her Highness is completely separate from her former title of Her Royal Highness.

The then Princess Alexandra of Denmark was not born a princess but was still styled a princess by the queen.She was given the title of countess after her divorce to Prince Joachim of Denmark along with the title princess before she had remarried.She lost her right to use the princess title and now she using her countess title by the way that title is non hereditary meaning if the countess has any children in future the title will not pass on with them this countess title will become extinct upon her death.