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Old 02-10-2006, 12:46 AM
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Her Royal Highness is a Commandant (which is equivalent to a Commander in the Royal Navy). This rank is 1 below a naval Captain (which is equivalent to an Army Colonel).
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Old 02-13-2006, 03:27 AM
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I don't know if this have been posted here but it is a picture of the Princess Royal in uniform with her brothers and family at Queen Mum's funeral:



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Old 02-13-2006, 10:23 AM
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Service vs. Honorary

Hi, folks. Just curious about a couple of things within this thread. Which royals made a career in the military? We know about Prince Andrew in Great Britian and the Jordanians. But are there others who actually perform a job in the military rather than "royal" duties?

Also, I know that many of the female titles have been honorary. Is this considered the same as being a "patron" of a particular regiment or division?

Lastly, has anyone heard of any female royal serving in the military during actual combat?

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Old 02-13-2006, 10:25 AM
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Help! Can someone please identify the gentleman in the third row, second from the left, in this photo? He is the one with the red band on his hat.

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Old 02-14-2006, 03:07 AM
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Help! Can someone please identify the gentleman in the third row, second from the left, in this photo? He is the one with the red band on his hat.

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THe Gentelman you refer to, is none other than His Royal Highness Prince Edward The Duke of Kent KG GCMG GCVO.

HRH THe Duke of Kent is one member of the House of Windsor who has served as a Regular Army Officer, also having taken part in various UN operations, as has his cousin, HRH Prince Michael of Kent. They are two recent examples.
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Old 02-14-2006, 03:08 AM
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Lastly, has anyone heard of any female royal serving in the military during actual combat?
Certainly not in the House of Windsor, not combat anyway.
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Old 02-14-2006, 10:19 AM
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Thanks, Von Schlesian!
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Old 02-14-2006, 06:54 PM
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You're more than welcome Mapper.
Also you asked about patronage, well that doesn't apply to military units (corps, regiments etc), as there are existing military positions for such a role. The position of Colonel-In-Chief, Captain-General (in the case of the Royal artillery), Honourary Commodore/Air Commodore etc for ships and wings (Air Force units) etc all exists so that the holder of such appointments are effectively patrons as well.
The practice of patronage is associated for more with non-military institutions and organisations (Red Cross, Schools, Round-Square).
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Old 02-15-2006, 04:32 PM
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Queen Margrethe II:



She served at the Danish Women's Airforce Reserve

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Old 02-15-2006, 05:20 PM
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Many female Royals have served in similar capacities within armed forces, however have not been exposed to direct combat roles.
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Why were Pavlos & Nikolaos wearing uniforms at Joachim's wedding? Did any of them actually have military instruction?




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The manner by which they attain a commission (and they are wearing commissioned rank) is immaterial. Some members of Royal families choose to demonstrate the skill required to earn the commission through military instruction, others are happy to wear Honorary Rank.
In the case of both Princes, they are Lieutenants (one a Second Lieutenant), in the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards, a Royal Armoured Corps Regiment of the British Army. They have both earned a commission from Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II.
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The manner by which they attain a commission (and they are wearing commissioned rank) is immaterial. Some members of Royal families choose to demonstrate the skill required to earn the commission through military instruction, others are happy to wear Honorary Rank.
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In the case of both Princes, they are Lieutenants (one a Second Lieutenant), in the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards, a Royal Armoured Corps Regiment of the British Army. They have both earned a commission from Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II.
Thanks for your info Von Schlesian, but I have another question:

Are those uniforms danish or british?, because they look a lot like the ones that Frederik and Joachim wear and both Pavlos and Nikolaos are wearing the danish blue sash

And besides, I don't remember seeing either one with an uniform again not even in Frederik's wedding
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Old 02-18-2006, 08:44 PM
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Thanks for your info Von Schlesian, but I have another question:

Are those uniforms danish or british?, because they look a lot like the ones that Frederik and Joachim wear and both Pavlos and Nikolaos are wearing the danish blue sash

And besides, I don't remember seeing either one with an uniform again not even in Frederik's wedding
You're welcome Crisinaki.
The uniforms they are wearing are not in the Danish Order of Battle. (That is a term which refers to corps seniority within armies of the world). I'm quite accustomed to identifying Military uniforms (particularly, British), and have quite a background in Military protocol (it being one of my specialist subjects). The uniforms being worn by the Princes, are undoubtedly British. The 'Danish Blue Sash' I'm afraid, is not quite accurate. (As you were referring to the Sash of the Order of the Elephant), the sash and breast star of the Order, are certainly not the Order of the Elephant, as the Sash of the Order is always suspended ober the left shoulder (like the Orders of the Garter and Thistle in the United Kingdom).

They are both wearing the insignia of the Grand Cross of the Redeemer (which could quite easily be confused with the Order of the Elephant).
I hope I've been able to clear that up for you. (I admit, it's quite tricky, Princes of Greece and Denmark, wearing the only Order in a British Military uniform which would be confused with that of another country):)
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You're welcome Crisinaki.
The uniforms they are wearing are not in the Danish Order of Battle. (That is a term which refers to corps seniority within armies of the world). I'm quite accustomed to identifying Military uniforms (particularly, British), and have quite a background in Military protocol (it being one of my specialist subjects). The uniforms being worn by the Princes, are undoubtedly British. The 'Danish Blue Sash' I'm afraid, is not quite accurate. (As you were referring to the Sash of the Order of the Elephant), the sash and breast star of the Order, are certainly not the Order of the Elephant, as the Sash of the Order is always suspended ober the left shoulder (like the Orders of the Garter and Thistle in the United Kingdom).

They are both wearing the insignia of the Grand Cross of the Redeemer (which could quite easily be confused with the Order of the Elephant).
I hope I've been able to clear that up for you. (I admit, it's quite tricky, Princes of Greece and Denmark, wearing the only Order in a British Military uniform which would be confused with that of another country):)
Wow, you are a fountain of knowledge about military uniforms, ranks and orders, thanks a lot
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Old 02-19-2006, 04:15 AM
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You're most welcome Crisinaki. (There's a very limited demand for that kind of information, in day-to-day life, it really is quite irrelevant). Rank insignia is rather less cimplicated (in most cases), than Orders (especially those that look alike). I hope my manner of responding doesn't make me seem full of too much hot air!
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You're most welcome Crisinaki. (There's a very limited demand for that kind of information, in day-to-day life, it really is quite irrelevant). Rank insignia is rather less cimplicated (in most cases), than Orders (especially those that look alike). I hope my manner of responding doesn't make me seem full of too much hot air!
You've earned the right to be cocky with your (always) accurate info
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Well I don't believe that I have any excuse for bad manners, so I shall avoid all 'know-it-all' attitudes I might convey : )
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Old 02-22-2006, 12:38 AM
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The weird thing is that I have only seen them wearing uniforms in this occasion and royals once they get an uniform, they wear it as long as they can, anyone knows why?

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Apologies if this link has been posted before, but this is a very good index to many royals, past and present, and their associations with the military.

http://www.regiments.org/biography/royals/colchief.htm
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