Royal Cyphers, Coronets, Arms and Monograms

[rpnewman]

Okay, I think my error is interpreting a "V" in the cypher. I'm now convinced that this is an upside down "A". So we have a symmetrical "AR" for Queen Anne. For those interested, this cypher is on an early English pocketwatch that could easily date to Anne's ascension to the throne in 1702.

 

[Vasillisos Markos]

I think you may be right, my dear rpnewman. The dates would line up with Queen Anne's ascension to the throne. I find these monograms hard to decipher at times, what with the reverse images of certain letters and being interwined.

 

[uppsala]

Hi community,

being new to TRF I'm quite impressed of both knowledge and speed you 'royalties' show.

I'm wondering if you could help me with this:

The picture attached shows a book dating back to 1912 with an obviously royal crown and monogram.

Anyone with an idea who that is?

The book is the Official Report of the Olympic Games Stockholm 1912 published the same year. Obviously very few copies have been personalized and handed to royals. There were two different language editions of this report: one in swedish and another in english.
The one on the pic is english - so it shouldn't have gone to the swedish royalties but probably to some other european royalty. British? Belgium? German? Who knows???
Thanks for your help! and cheers from Sweden.

 

[cepe]

This is only a guess but Wilhelm II of Germany and his first wife, Princess Augusta Viktoria of Schleswig-Holstein are a possibility for 1912

 

[Fürstin Taxis]

Just one question: do the Monaco Princes and Princesses have their own coat of arm and cypher or is it just a privilege for the reigning sovereign? I have no clue. Thanks

 

[Glasshouse]

Just one question: do the Monaco Princes and Princesses have their own coat of arm and cypher or is it just a privilege for the reigning sovereign? I have no clue. Thanks

I believe the coat of arms for the princely family of Monaco is undifferenced with the various members of the family, but many of their monograms can be found here: Category:Royal monograms of Monaco - Wikimedia Commons. I haven't seen one for Princess Charlene yet.

 

[Warren]

I'm wondering if you could help me with this:
The picture attached shows a book dating back to 1912 with an obviously royal crown and monogram.

The 'crown' is not a royal crown; it is the coronet of a British Duke.
> The book possibly belonged to Arthur Wellesley [AW], 4th Duke of Wellington (1849-1934), succeeded to the Dukedom in 1900.

1. the coronet & monogram
2. & 3. Ducal coronets (five strawberry leaves displayed)
.

 

[Grandduchess24]

I was just wondering why HRH prince Edward,Earl of wessex has a different coat of arms compared to that of his brothers, unless that is the coat of arms for a count of Wessex.

 

[Artemisia]

All members of the Royal Family have different Coat of Arms, which are based on the Royal Arms that has remained unchanged since 1830's.

The Coat of Arms of Prince Edward is almost exactly the same as Prince Andrew's with one difference; where Prince Andrew has the blue anchor (symbolising his career at the Navy), Prince Edward has the Tudor rose. [URL="http://imageupper.com/i/?S0800010070031O13326178411639714"]Prince Charles'[/URL] Coat of Arms is quite distinctive, because he has also incorporated the traditional Coat of Arms of the Principality of Wales (symbolising his status as the Prince of Wales).

Prince Edward, as son of the Sovereign, is entitled to Arms with three point label.
Grandchildren of the Monarch, with the exception of Prince William (as the eldest son of the Prince of Wales) are entitled to Arms with five point label.

There isn't a Coat of Arms for an Earl of Wessex; the title was created in its second creation for Prince Edward on the day of his wedding to Sophie.
The last holder of the first creation of the title, William FitzOsbern, died back in 1071

 

[button_guru]

Royal monogramme/cipher button

Hi all,
I'm new here and joined with the hope of some help from the specialists.
My hobby are uniform buttons and occasionally we also strike brick walls.
I've recently added a few more buttons and one in particular has a Royal cipher that I cannot crack, photo attached. I believe that it could be either French, Spanish or Portuguese.
Any help is much appreicated.
Rgds,
button_guru
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Buttons aren't just a hobby.....................

 

[Lord Sosnowitz]

Princess Lilian's arms

HRH Princess Lilian of Sweden The Dowager Duchess of Halland's coat of arms.

 

[Lord Sosnowitz]

HRH Princess Estelle

HRH Princess Estelle of Sweden, The Duchess of Östergötland's coat of arms

 

[Glasshouse]

Has anyone seen a monogram for Princess Charlene of Monaco yet?

How about monograms from any of the Princely Family of Liechtenstein?

 

[Lady Eun Ae]

Does Kate Middleton put motto in her coat of arms? Why or why not?

Diana's motto in her coat of arms is "God defends the right."
What is Kate's, if she has?
Or why she doesn't have, if she doesn't have?

 

[icon99]

Just wondering

This is the monongram! Thanks!

Just wondering if anyone could help! The Omega literally means "The Great O". Perhaps this could be "The Great King Otto".

 

[Noble Consort Ming]

Has anyone seen a monogram for Princess Charlene of Monaco yet?

How about monograms from any of the Princely Family of Liechtenstein?

The dual cypher of Albert and Charlene is at the top of the family's official web page. I don't know if that helps.

Homepage - Prince

Here is a closeup:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dual_Cypher_of_Prince_Albert_and_Princess_Charlene_of_Monaco.svg

The Royal Cyphers project Category:Royal Cyphers - Wikimedia Commons now has almost 400 royal monograms would be

This page has been deleted and replaced with this one:

Category:Royal Cyphers and Monograms - Wikimedia Commons

 

[major darling]

If anyone needs any coat of arms help, I have a large reference library on heraldry and rank it as one my many interests. Ill also post some wonderful examples of Royal coats of arms, once I find the nicest ones

 

[major darling]

Mottos are not a compulsory part of a coat of arms, and when granted to you by either the Lord Lyon or the College of arms, its really up to the petitioner if they want one. Arms are in themselves meant to give a 'motto', and the Middleton one hopes to accomplish that.

In reference to the coats of arms above, the labels would be differenced as they always have been according to the rules of heraldry.

1st Son of Sovereign: Plain white label
2nd Son of Sovereign: A crescent, although this mark of cadency can somtimes be catered to the grantee.

The arms would also probably be granted around their 18th birthday, and would not change if they became Dukes.

 

[Glasshouse]

Princess Estelle

Princess Estelle's monogram has been released.

 

[Noble Consort Ming]

Princess Estelle's monogram has been released.

I think it's been posted in some other threads too. I'm curious about people's opinions of it. I find it a bit plain and boring.

 

[vonLichtenberg]

I like Princess Estelle's monogram, It is simple yet elegant. I think it is one of my favorite monograms. I have always been a fan of the simple ones like Queen Elizabeth II's EIIR. I'm sure that when she becomes Queen Regent her monogram will change, however for a Royal Princess I think it is perfect.

 

[Tsar bobo Iv]

royal coat of arms

what is your favorite coat of arms mine is Sarah Ferguson one because it is fun and pretty
https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/i...0QUowZdxgIeWAdRdEz7Dgf1PIVsgIXTCPInxu8G2XdRXw

 

[KittyAtlanta]

Me too, Bobo. Love the bee.

 

[vonLichtenberg]

I love Sarah, Duchess of York's coat of arms! I think it so clever how Beatrice has three bees on her label of difference.

My favorite coat of arms has got to be the coat of arms of the United Kingdom, I love the way it looks.

 

[Tsar bobo Iv]

I love Sarah, Duchess of York's coat of arms! I think it so clever how Beatrice has three bees on her label of difference.

My favorite coat of arms has got to be the coat of arms of the United Kingdom, I love the way it looks.

i like her 2

 

[LauraS3514]

I love Sarah, Duchess of York's coat of arms! I think it so clever how Beatrice has three bees on her label of difference.

Eugenie's label of difference uses the thistles. Also, William and Harry use the Spencer scallop as theirs (but in red, not white). William will of course lose the scallops once he is heir. Harry will keep his unless the unthinkable happens and he winds up as heir.

 

[vonLichtenberg]

Royal Coats of Arms and Standards

There is an older topic on this, however many of the images are no longer available so I thought it would be great to start a new topic talking about the heraldry of monarchies as well as the Royal Standards of those monarchies. feel free to throw in Monograms if you wish! I'll start with a easy one.

Coat of Arms of HRH the Duke of Cambridge

http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I00004HHtto_mN.0/s/650/650/NEWSPIX1060957-William-Standard.jpg
HRH the Duke of Cambridge's Standard

HRH the Duke of Cambridge's Monogram

Personal Flag of HRH the Duke of Cambridge in Canada

 

[vonLichtenberg]

Coat of Arms of HRH Princess Estelle of Sweden, Duchess of Östergötland

Monogram of HRH Princess Estelle of Sweden, Duchess of Östergötland

Flag of members of the Swedish Royal Family that are NOT the King or Queen
It would be really cool if each member of the family had a banner of their arms as a standard.

 

[vonLichtenberg]

Monogram of HSH the Reigning Prince of Liechtenstein*

Coat of Arms of HSH the Reigning Prince of Liechtenstein and the Liechtensteiner Princely Family

Standard of HSH the Reigning Prince of Liechtenstein

(*I contacted the Prince's Office to ask if that was correct and if any other members had one)

 

[vonLichtenberg]

Standard of HM the Queen of the United Kingdom in England, Wales, and N. Ireland

Coat of Arms of HM the Queen

Monogram of HM the Queen

Standard of HRH the Duke of Edinburgh

Symbol of HRH the Duke of Edinburgh

Monogram of HRH the Duke of Edinburgh

Coat of Arms of HRH the Duke of Edinburgh

Standard of HRH the Prince of Wales

Symbol of HRH the Prince of Wales

Coat of Arms of HRH the Prince of Wales