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Old 10-05-2017, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by loonytick View Post
Wait-Letizia didn't come into her marriage as a foreigner, she was born and raised in Asturias; her parents were Spaniards; all of her grandparents but one spent their whole lives in Asturias or Madrid, and the one who didn't was born in the Spanish parents.

Her family didn't have a coat of arms because they were working/middle class, not because she wasn't Spanish.
I guess that Curryong was thinking about Queen Máxima and she indeed has her own coat of arms, with the inescutcheon representing her family background (if I remember correctly this was created for Máxima but also used by/awarded to her father; see this previous post).

Another foreign queen was Queen Silvia of Sweden; looks like also in her case it is the inescutcheon that represents her background.

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Old 10-20-2017, 05:36 PM
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Yes, Somebody, I was thinking of Queen Maxima and stupidly wrote Letizia, one of the penalties of posting things in the very early morning I guess!

However, to get back to British royalty. The Duchess of Gloucester is of course Danish, and on both sides of the family I would guess. Her father was a lawyer and I don't think he had his own coat of arms previous to her marriage. Birgette had rather a complex family history as I recall and used her mother's maiden name of Van Deurs before she married.

However, even if her maternal grandfather had a coat of arms, I doubt that she would have been able to use that, and in fact I have read today, from Wikii admittedly, that the Duchess has her coat of arms from her father quartered, as is usual, with her husband's.

Where did Mr Henrikson, Birgette's father, get his Arms from, I wonder. From the Danish College of Arms or was it granted by the College of Arms in London? In the case of the latter, did he have to prove descent from a subject of the Crown (of GB) and what would have happened if he couldn't? I guess the Coat of Arms was granted anyway.

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Old 10-21-2017, 06:03 AM
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The Royal Monogram of Queen Letizia of Spain.

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