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Old 08-05-2014, 09:21 AM
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Cypher / Monogram cursive V under crown

Hello all
This cypher is on what appears to be an early to mid 19 Century British pattern of cavalry sword. It reminds me of the English gunmaker's V under Crown but it isn't. It is really annoying me, as I have seen this cypher before but can not remember where .

Anyone recognize it? It would need to date 1821-1860 or thereabouts.

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Queen Victoria Cypher with a crowned "V", not a crowned "VR"?

Hi, Everyone. I'm trying to verify that Queen Victoria had a cypher of a "V" with a crown above it, not the usual "VR" with a crown.

The images below are from a shotgun made in 1869 by a French royal arms maker. The gun was purchased from a respected American collector whose guns have been displayed at the Metropolitan Museum. Provenance states that this gun was owned by Queen Victoria. I don't know whether Victoria placed the order for this shotgun or it was a gift (possibly from someone who got her cypher wrong!) Any help or advice is greatly appreciated!

*Note that the cyphers on the gun and case use different "V" fonts.



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Old 02-17-2015, 03:09 PM
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Royal monogram i.d help

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just wondering if anyone can help me decipher this monogram , i have a set of these antique glasses which look to have the same royal monogram on each one.

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Hi all

just wondering if anyone can help me decipher this monogram , i have a set of these antique glasses which look to have the same royal monogram on each one.

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I was told it might be Austrian royalty monogram , but i have no idea..
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Cavalry bit monogram help

This is on a cavalry bit. A period note said it was from Victorias stable.
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Old 03-19-2015, 03:26 AM
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The crowned W (of King Willem I of the Netherlands, Prince of Orange-Nassau, Grand-Duke of Luxembourg) has been splendidly restored on one of the most beautiful and elegant (if not THE most beautiful and elegant) gala glass-berlines still in royal use.

The crowned W on the overcloak of the coachman's seat

The Crown of the Netherlands is embroided

The awesomely elegant result: a stunning royal gala glass-berline from 1821 looking as sparkling new. The big crowned monogram on the coachman's seat and the royal coat-of-arms on the door leave no guessing who the passenger is...
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Has anyone seen a cypher for either of the Wessex? I assume they have them.
They have a joint one but I have never seen a monogram for Edward or Sophie seperately. Their monogram isn't very nice to be fair - it looks like the Nazi symbol.

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The difference between the realistic heraldic crown and the geometric monogram makes it looking a bit off-key. I wonder why Edward and Sophie have a "fantasy crown". It is not the correct heraldic crown for a Prince of the blood royal. It is also not a correct heraldic comital crown for an Earl.
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Old 04-02-2015, 03:08 PM
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The joint monogram of Edward and Sophie is clearly based on the letter styling used by the Duke and Duchess of Windsor.
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Edward has always done things a little differently. First son of a monarch in this dynasty going back to King George I not created a Duke.

Louise and James are styled and titled as the children of a non-royal earl. Its not surprising his and Sophie's monogram looks the way it does.
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They have a joint one but I have never seen a monogram for Edward or Sophie seperately. Their monogram isn't very nice to be fair - it looks like the Nazi symbol.

to me this has always had an art deco feel and I do like it.
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The joint monogram of Edward and Sophie is clearly based on the letter styling used by the Duke and Duchess of Windsor.
I hadn't thought of that but I just googled Wallis and Edward's and it is very similar to theirs.

I don't like Edward and Sophie's monogram and it only ever seems to be used on their Christmas cards as any correspondence from them has the Bagshot Park symbol on it, not their monogram. Sophie has the monogram on a necklace = image.
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oh, they use monograms, I never knew that. It turns out to be an important bit of information for me however in case I come across one like those I'll be sure to leave it alone, like I would anyone elses. Someone said police use the royal ones too, over there, I didn't know that, that's a real valuable bit of info,thanks for the fyi. We married folks, we pick monograms for ourselves and put them on special things to us, too. I can appreciate the sentiment. Yet for them it is a marker that means official business the world should be aware of. I feel like that would be such an invasion of privacy. They handle having the world recognize their monogram well, personally, I wouldn't want mine known by everyone. I have sympathy for their invasion of privacy, but don't feel pity for them.
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