Royal Cyphers and Monograms

[Dane]

hey guys! please help me im 16, 17 soon! from the UK (Rule Britannia)! and im going to get a tattoo soon and i want one of a royal monogram, please can you post pictures of any royal monograms even better if they are Russian royal monograms or any arabic royal monograms and with whos they are! cheers!

[mashed potatoes]

Crown Princess Mary of Denmark - Monogram

[BurberryBrit]

How are these monograms created? Are they self-created? Or is there a graphic design person who consults on the monograms? Thanks.

[Von Schlesian]

Graphic design - hardly. Cyphers and Royal arms are a matter of quite strict control of protocol departments. For example, in the United Kingdom, the College of Arms is the authority on the subject, with every arm, monogram and cypher having been registered there and the ability to researched there.

In the case of the Royal Danish cyphers, I understand that HM Queen Margarethe II designs them herself, and while this wouldn't exactly be a common occurance, there's no reason why, with a little consultation from the governing authorities on arms etc of that country, that every Royal could design their own (providing there wasn't already one in existence).

[Shadiyah2086]

Does anyone else form the Belgian Royal Family have monogram? I haven seen one from Queen Paola, Princess Astrid, Prince Lorenz, Prince Laurent, or Princess Claire. Will King Albert's grandchildren create a monogram of their own?

[crisiñaki]

I haven't seen the monograms for King Juan Carlos, Queen Sofia or their daughters or even Felipe's own monogram
any ideas?

[iannis]

Originally Posted by chanel

I would love to see the monagrams for Marie-Chantal and Pavlos, for Alexia and Carlos, and of course for the younger greek royals Nikoloas, Theodora, and Philippos. Are there any for the younger ones? Are there any monograms for the older two couples that are other than their wedding day that can be read? The flowers are just slightly hard to understand.... or read!!

As far as Pavlo's and Mari Chantal's is being concerned, it's probably because of the use of the letter Π (P) with which Pavlos' name starts in Greek. There's no such prob with TM or Alexia.

[politikgirl]

There are tons on the pages before this page of this thread.

[RhapsodyBrat]

i found these:

from Det Kongelige Bibliotek--National Library and Copenhagen University Library (apparently they are from missing books):

King Frederik VII


King Christian VI


Christoffer Heerfort's book Herbarium Danicum sempervivum published in 1656. the book is dedicated to King Frederik III and Queen Sophie Amalie whose monograms are embossed on the cover:



monogram of King Christian VII of Norway, from iStockphoto:


just a question: these kings ruled the united kingdoms of Norway and Denmark, right?

you can see more of these monograms on the Library's link for missing books with the royal monograms as identifying marks: http://www.kb.dk/kb/missingbooks/marks/monograms.htm

[norwegianne]

Originally Posted by RhapsodyBrat

just a question: these kings ruled the united kingdoms of Norway and Denmark, right?

The last king of both Denmark and Norway was Frederik VI. Christian VIII was also king in both countries, but not at the same time. He was elected king in Norway in 1814 - but as the European powers failed to accept it, he went back to Denmark where he succeeded his cousin Frederik VI.

[lord_rankin]

As a graphic and heraldic designer I have always been interested in royal cyphers and as of late been asked by many wealthy patrons to design personal cyphers. I have to say if you are intersted in really beautiful ones look for the cyphers of Imperial Russia, all Grand Duke and Grand Duchessses had them (and there were a lot!) plus the use of the Cyrillic alphabet make them real design challenges. I will look through my records and post some when I find the examples.

[RhapsodyBrat]

Originally Posted by norwegianne

The last king of both Denmark and Norway was Frederik VI. Christian VIII was also king in both countries, but not at the same time. He was elected king in Norway in 1814 - but as the European powers failed to accept it, he went back to Denmark where he succeeded his cousin Frederik VI.

thanks for the info, norwegianne! i've seen a timeline of the reigns of the kings of Norway but couldn't follow it properly.

[Josefine]

has Prince christian gotten a monogram?

[Sister Morphine]

Originally Posted by Josefine

has Prince christian gotten a monogram?

Yes. I believe it was posted in this thread somewhere.



Edit: It was not posted in this thread, actually....but it's a double C with a crown on top. I've seen it before, I just can't recall where.



Ah...here we go.






Credit to: http://kongehuset.dk/publish.php?dog...lien_christian

[Leslie2006]

Originally Posted by paulette

A monogram of a member of the Russian Imperial Family.

cool! But are you sure? It looks like another version of Elizabeth II's.

[kelly9480]

EIIR hasn't had her monogram done in diamond brooches, so it's unlikely it's hers. The Russians, however, would have had no problem running around with their monograms in diamonds. Ekaterina is the Russian version of Catherine, so it probably is Catherine the Great's, like the previous poster stated.

[Butterwicke]

On the Danish Royal Website, HH Princess Alexandra's page used to display her monogram, even several months after the divorce. I just recently noticed it is no longer displayed on the English version of the website, dispite others' monograms still being visible on their respective pages. I thought it may have been deliberate, but then checked the site in Danish and saw that her monogram is still displayed there.



On the whole, the prominence of monograms seems most emphasized on the Danish and Swedish Royal Websites.

[politikgirl]

I think the prominence of monograms is clearly emphasized on the Danish royal websites in part because HM The Queen designed them herself... and they are beautiful, indeed.

The monograms used to be featured prominently on the Swedish royal website, but I don't see them anymore.

As for HH Princess Alexandra... I too noticed the same thing a few months ago and wondered if the divorce was the reason it's been removed from her personal page (although it's still on the monogram page).

[Lord Sosnowitz]

I don't see Prince Constantijn'ss monogram. :(