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Old 06-04-2006, 05:35 AM
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I believe that she would not remarry.

Do I remember correctly; that HM Queen Margrethe made Alexandra noble before her marriage? What title was she granted? Or was it another Royal House?
Queen Margrethe made Alexandra a noble after the marriage failed. She is now HH Princess Alexandra, Countess of Frederiksborg. Should she remarry she would be Her Excellency the Countess of Frederiksborg. Or something like that.
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Old 06-04-2006, 09:23 AM
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Would she have been made a noble, if she hadn't become the mother of two princes?
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Old 06-04-2006, 09:33 AM
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Would she have been made a noble, if she hadn't become the mother of two princes?
No-one here can answer that. You'd have to ask Queen Margrethe and see if she would answer "what if?" scenarios. :)
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Old 06-04-2006, 11:31 AM
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You may like to remember probably the most long-lived Royal widow, that being Her late Majesty Queen Elizabeth, The Queen Mother - widowed for over 50 years. Even when suiters were knonw to have existed, Her Majesty remained ever devoted to the memory of the King, and to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II.
that's true but i wonder if it was a matter of choice. we'll never know i guess.
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that's true but i wonder if it was a matter of choice. we'll never know i guess.
I actually felt that she did not want to lose her "Position" as a Queen of Great Britain. She was very good at it. I had read that King Olav was interested in marrying her (I also read that he was very close to Princess Marina) but in Great Britain, many feel that theirs is the superior Monarchy.

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Old 06-04-2006, 02:55 PM
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No-one here can answer that. You'd have to ask Queen Margrethe and see if she would answer "what if?" scenarios. :)
Well, I believe, that if she hadn't gotten children with Joachim, she wouldn't have been held in as high esteem as she now is, when she has children with Joachim. As I understand it, Diana Spencer was given a special treatment too after her divorce from Prince Charles, because she was the mother of not only two princes, but even the mother of a future king of England.

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I actually felt that she did not want to lose her "Position" as a Queen of Great Britain. She was very good at it. I had read that King Olav was interested in marrying her (I also read that he was very close to Princess Marina) but in Great Britain, many feel that theirs is the superior Monarchy.

Just my opinion.
That's interesting, king Olav (of Norway, I presume ) wanting to marry queen mother Elizabeth. Well, she was only three years older than him, so it could have worked...

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Is there anywhere a list of titles that can or cannot be used in any royal house and line of succession?
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Hello members. I am not sure if this is the correct thread to ask this question and forgive me if its not. Im curious. Do distant cousins of the King of Spain have titles? For example, say the King has cousins through ancient times that are non reigning. Would these people have titles today even though they are not direct blood to the King? Would they be allowed to carry titles legally in the present time or would they have to be given the titles by the King himself once they are indeed recognized as relatives? I keep thinking that there must be commoners that must be related and deserve the right to carry some form of title in the present, or are they not even considered relatives? I hope that I made sense. Thanks for any response. Merry Christmas all!!
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Hello members. I am not sure if this is the correct thread to ask this question and forgive me if its not. Im curious. Do distant cousins of the King of Spain have titles? For example, say the King has cousins through ancient times that are non reigning. Would these people have titles today even though they are not direct blood to the King? Would they be allowed to carry titles legally in the present time or would they have to be given the titles by the King himself once they are indeed recognized as relatives? I keep thinking that there must be commoners that must be related and deserve the right to carry some form of title in the present, or are they not even considered relatives? I hope that I made sense. Thanks for any response. Merry Christmas all!!
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Thank you Magnik. That is great information. Let me give you an example though: Say I find out I am related to the house of Spain through my great grandfather who is related through a cousin of the King but my great grandfather doesnt have a title that we know of and we are trying to establish that now. Would we have the right to carry the title that belongs to my great grandfather or would we have to get permission and recognition from the King in order for it to be legal?
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Does anyone know what happens with titles and styles when twins or multiple births occur? What's the protocol if a Queen or a Crown Princess gives birth to twins? Who gets to be sovereign?
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Old 01-08-2008, 02:47 PM
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I have heard that the second born will get sovereign! So was that in the middle ages. This was so because they thought that the second born was the first made in the belly (sorry I don't know the right word!).

Another question: When HRH Crown Prince Haakon of Norway become king, will HRH Crown Princess Mette-Marit than be HM Queen Mette or HM Queen Mette-Marit?
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On the official site she is know as Crown Princess Mette-Marit, born Mette-Marit Tjessem Høiby on 19 August 1973. So she will be HM Queen Mette-Marit. And Haakon will be HM King Haakon Magnus I think.
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I think that this one which will born first will be possible next king/queen. Of course depend of the successional law.
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Furienna,

Diana, Princess of Wales, was not given any special treatment in regard to title after her marriage. It is standard practise for divorced wives of peers to use their first name followed by the former title. Diana's titles are as follows:

Prior to marriage: Lady Diana Spencer
During Marriage: Her Royal Highness the Princess of Wales
After marriage: Diana, Princess of Wales

The same applies to commoners:

Jane Smith marries John Harris and becomes Mrs. John Harris (although commonly called "Jane Harris"). They divorce and she becomes Jane, Mrs. Harris.
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Yeah, it was mentioned before, but the Luxembourg royals are HRH now, because of their connections to the Royal House of Parma. This came from the marriage of Grand Duchess Charlotte to some prince of Parma. Before that they were HGDH's.
His name was HRH Prince Felix of Bourbon-Parma.

Okay say if two members of non reigning families married one head of a house and the other just a member of the former royal family ?
For instance the not so known princess signature I use and say Prince Nicholas of Greece and Denmark were to have childen which title would the children hold?
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The children would, generally, inherit the title from the father. In most cases, children only inherit from the mother when she is a reigning Sovereign.
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Hi, just joined and i just want to ask a few questions about some general things:

Are royal or noble houses legal, for instance do they have to be registered and accepted, like coats of arms? Or are they just spoken, if that's clear enough.

Could for instance a Baron create a noble house, like 'House of Something', or is it just restricted to higher nobility or even just royalty?

Also in terms of a royal or noble house names, if say the 'Duke of Somewhere' had 3 children a daughter and two sons, the eldest son would inherit the title could the other children be called 'Daniel of Somewhere' (not legally but just for a name). I ask this because many sons and daughters of titled men and women use their real name instead of the way it was presented in nobility years before. Or is this just a uncommon thing nowadays.

If a man without a title married an only daughter of a titled man, like 'Duke', would his title pass on through his daughters of titled and the man she married children? Or does it become extinct?

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If a man without a title married an only daughter of a titled man, like 'Duke', would his title pass on through his daughters of titled and the man she married children? Or does it become extinct?
It depends on the title. There a