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Old 11-30-2010, 05:28 PM
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That's interesting. I think the third person is for Norway as well?
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Old 12-05-2010, 08:14 PM
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Yeah, probably. I know we adress the royals that way in Sweden. King Carl XVI Gustaf is called "Your Majesty", Queen Silvia is called "the Queen", Crown princess Victoria is called "the Crown princess", and the rest are called "the Prince" or "the Princess".
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Old 12-12-2010, 05:58 AM
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Am I nob or s.nob?

My great grandfather had been knighted, so my grandparents had the titles of Sir and Lady, respectively. What does that make me? An esquire, or simply sine nobilitate?
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Old 12-13-2010, 03:40 AM
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My great grandfather had been knighted, so my grandparents had the titles of Sir and Lady, respectively. What does that make me? An esquire, or simply sine nobilitate?
The title of knight is not a title of nobility, the person who receives this honour can use (if british/commonwealth citizen) the style of "Sir" and his wife will be styled as "lady", but these are not titles of nobility.
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Old 12-13-2010, 04:14 AM
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The British royal and noble titles

As far as I've understood if a woman marries a British Prince or Lord (but is not born a lady or a princess) she will be called "Lady Nicholas Windsor" or "Princess Michael".
But if the woman was born in a noble or prince family of another state(Russia,France etc.) and married a British royal or noble,how would she be titled?
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Old 12-13-2010, 04:39 AM
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The exact same, you take on your husbands title. Princess Michael is the daughter of a Baron and Countess and she still takes on her husbands title. Princess Marina of Greece and Denmark married Prince George, Duke of Kent and would have become The Princess George, Duchess of Kent.
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Old 12-13-2010, 03:31 PM
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The title of knight is not a title of nobility, the person who receives this honour can use (if british/commonwealth citizen) the style of "Sir" and his wife will be styled as "lady", but these are not titles of nobility.
So the children of a knight would not be known as "The Honourable"?

I believe that the children of an earl or higher are known as Lord So-and-so (the eldest son taking any subsidiary title of the father), or Lady So-and-so, but that the children of a viscount are known (in writing rather than speech) The Honourable So-and-so. I just wonder if that goes for the children of barons and baronets as well.
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Old 12-13-2010, 04:16 PM
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Exactly, this is the british system of titles, the eldest son of a Peer uses by courtesy the lesser title of the father.
Baronets: a baronet is styled as: Sir John Green, Bt. (or Bart); the son of a baronet is Mr. James Green, and Miss Jane Green is the daughter.
Baronets are not noble because they are nor Peers, they are commoners who inherit the honour of baronetcy with the address of Sir. It is interesting to know that the address of "Sir", used in the uk for knights and Baronets, comes from the latin word "senior" = older.
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Old 12-15-2010, 12:32 PM
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Thanks for your answer!
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Old 12-16-2010, 12:01 PM
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Exactly, this is the british system of titles, the eldest son of a Peer uses by courtesy the lesser title of the father.
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Yes eldest sons to Earls and above does, eldest sons to Viscounts and Baron is just The Honourable.
Younger son to Dukes and Marquess are Lord [Insert his first name here], younger sons to Earls and below is just The Honourable
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Old 12-16-2010, 01:24 PM
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That clears it up -- I was wondering about baronets vs. barons.
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His Serene Highness Nicolas Sarkozy

As President of the French Republic, Nicolas Sarkozy is also Co-Prince of Andorra with the right to be styled "His Serene Highness." Can he claim any privileges from this or be considered truly a reigning Prince outside of Andorra. Is it only if he were officially representing Andorra and not France? Does this change his status in precedence in any nations? Is it like putting on different hats?
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If someone in England becomes a Prince/Princess Regent then what is their spouse called?
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Old 01-20-2011, 02:49 AM
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If someone in England becomes a Prince/Princess Regent then what is their spouse called?

The last time Britain had a Prince Regent his wife continued to be known as The Princess of Wales. George IV's substantive titles were still Prince of Wales, Earl of Chester, Duke of Cornwall etc but he carried out the duties of King.

He wasn't given the title 'Prince Regent' as a substantive title. It was more a recognition that he was doing the job of King but was still a prince. There were no LPs creating him Prince Regent although there was an act that gave him the authority.

If the Queen become incapacitated then Prince Charles would become Regent but his title would still be The Prince of Wales and Camilla would still be The Princess of Wales (not used) The Duchess of Cornwall etc.

If, for some reason, Beatrice became Regent and she was married to Mr John Smith then his title would remain Mr John Smith.
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The last time Britain had a Prince Regent his wife continued to be known as The Princess of Wales. George IV's substantive titles were still Prince of Wales, Earl of Chester, Duke of Cornwall etc but he carried out the duties of King.

He wasn't given the title 'Prince Regent' as a substantive title. It was more a recognition that he was doing the job of King but was still a prince. There were no LPs creating him Prince Regent although there was an act that gave him the authority.

If the Queen become incapacitated then Prince Charles would become Regent but his title would still be The Prince of Wales and Camilla would still be The Princess of Wales (not used) The Duchess of Cornwall etc.

If, for some reason, Beatrice became Regent and she was married to Mr John Smith then his title would remain Mr John Smith.
Thank you. I was under the assumption that perhaps the spouse received an elevation in the title department. Guess I was wrong.

You made a point about Beatrice being named Regent. Is there anyway that could happen while Charles was alive? I am not certain if the title goes immediately to him or if there are any more conditions that must be met.
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Old 01-24-2011, 07:53 PM
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Title question

I have a question. Sometimes, a king or queen is only monarch for a short time. Like say for example, the true heir is still a child. So, let's say you have a king who is king until the true heir can be king. Then, the true heir becomes king. What do you call the former king or queen? Do you just use their old title?
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Old 01-24-2011, 07:57 PM
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Are you speaking of a Regent?

According to Wikipedia:


A regent, from the Latin regens "one who reigns", is a person selected to act as head of state (ruling or not) because the ruler is a minor, not present, or debilitated.[1]
In a monarchy, a regent usually governs due to one of these reasons, but may also be elected to rule during the interregnum when the royal line has died out. This was the case in Finland and Hungary, where the royal line was considered extinct in the aftermath of World War I. In Iceland, the regent represented the King of Denmark as sovereign of Iceland until the country became a republic in 1944.
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Yes, thank you. Thanks for merging this. So, what does one call a former regent?
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Old 01-24-2011, 08:04 PM
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Most regents that I am aware of (in the case of Yugoslavia and Belgium) have just gone back to their former titles but sometimes are referred to as the former regent to XXX, Prince Paul of Yugoslavia.

ETA: In the case of Prince Paul, this is what Wikipedia has to say about him:

Prince Paul of Yugoslavia, also known as Paul Karađorđević (Serbo-Croatian: Pavle Karađorđević, Serbian Cyrillic alphabet: Павле Карађорђевић, Slovene: Pavel Karadjordjević, English transliteration: Paul Karageorgevich; 27 April 1893 – 11 September 1976), was Regent of the Kingdom of Yugoslavia during the minority of King Peter II. Peter was the eldest son of his first cousin Alexander I. His title in Yugoslavia was Knez (Knez Pavle Karađorđević), which translates best as "Prince".
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^^^Thanks. :)
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