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Old 11-08-2007, 11:45 AM
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Well, depending on the set up, she'd remain HRH Princess X or become HRH Princess X, the Dowager Duchess of X if she had children. Thats if she has another title. But death doesnt matter, once she's in she's in.
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Old 11-08-2007, 01:49 PM
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Well, depending on the set up, she'd remain HRH Princess X or become HRH Princess X, the Dowager Duchess of X if she had children. Thats if she has another title. But death doesnt matter, once she's in she's in.
Yes but wouldn't she have to take over the country then, assuming the husbands parents were deceased as well, and the children too young?
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Old 11-08-2007, 01:52 PM
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Well, there might be a regency set up depending on the country's constitution.
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:02 PM
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For example:
UK #45 alt.talk.royalty FAQ: British royalty and nobility

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Old 11-08-2007, 02:23 PM
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In some countries a regent has to be a person in the line of succession, so a widowed spouse with young children might not be eligible, especially these days when princes are marrying commoners rather than princesses of other countries who might have blood ties to the monarchy into which they married. It depends on the country. I believe that at some point during Prince Charles's minority it was decided that Prince Philip rather than Princess Margaret would be regent, but I don't know if any laws had to be passed to accomplish that.

On the other hand, as a descendant of Queen Victoria through umpteen lines, Prince Philip is in the line of succession to the throne. In countries where the succession is limited to the descendants of the current monarch, things might be different. I also don't know whether the law (or whatever it was) that allowed Prince Philip to be Regent Designate would have meant that Diana (when she and Charles were still married) rather than Prince Andrew would have been regent if Prince William had become King during his minority.
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:38 PM
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Where exactly is Prince Philip in the line of succession for that matter?
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:54 PM
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Try maybe here:
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in 1941 #152, in 2001 #565 (?) as descendant of Sophia Kfstin v Hannover.
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Old 11-08-2007, 05:22 PM
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Here is an example for the Original Question:

Miss Anne Elliott marries HRH The Prince Christopher (a younger son of the King) who hold the title of HRH The Duke of Axminster.

On her marriage Miss Elliott becomes HRH The Princess Christopher but is known as HRH The Duchess of Axminster.

She has a child HRH Prince Alexander of Axminster. Her husband is killed (and her brother in law the King's elder son becomes The King) and her son becomes HRH The Duke of Axminster.

Now the child is the Duke and is not yet married thus She remains HRH The Duchess of Axminster.

When her son marries she will the officially become HRH The Dowager Duchess of Axminster. however she may choose to be know as HRH Princess Anne, Duchess of Axminster or HRH The Princess Christopher, Duchess of Axminster.

This example works however if Anne had married the eldest son of a King or Queen she would have become HRH The Princess of Wales (if this story is set in The UK) or HRH The Crown Princess Christopher (or Anne depending on local custom). When her husband was killed she would keep her title. When the Parents were then killed her son would ascend the throne and she would be HRH The Princess Christopher and possibly regent (dependent on constitutional arrangements). The state could find another suitable title such as HRH The Princess Mother or she could be made HM The Queen Mother as she would have been Queen had here husband survived to gain the title though this is far streaching.

This question has many possibilities and we could go on for ever thinking of what titles she could be given.
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:01 PM
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Or, get the title of HRH The Dowager Princess of Wales....Ok, far fetched idea, I know!
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:29 PM
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One more Morganatic and Unequal Marriages in German Law
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Old 11-09-2007, 12:37 PM
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Or, get the title of HRH The Dowager Princess of Wales....Ok, far fetched idea, I know!
I think this did exist once though I can't remember the details.
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Hello members. I am not sure if this is the correct thread to ask this question and forgive me if its not. Im curious. Do distant cousins of the King of Spain have titles? For example, say the King has cousins through ancient times that are non reigning. Would these people have titles today even though they are not direct blood to the King? Would they be allowed to carry titles legally in the present time or would they have to be given the titles by the King himself once they are indeed recognized as relatives? I keep thinking that there must be commoners that must be related and deserve the right to carry some form of title in the present, or are they not even considered relatives? I hope that I made sense. Thanks for any response. Merry Christmas all!!
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Old 12-17-2007, 03:42 PM
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Hello members. I am not sure if this is the correct thread to ask this question and forgive me if its not. Im curious. Do distant cousins of the King of Spain have titles? For example, say the King has cousins through ancient times that are non reigning. Would these people have titles today even though they are not direct blood to the King? Would they be allowed to carry titles legally in the present time or would they have to be given the titles by the King himself once they are indeed recognized as relatives? I keep thinking that there must be commoners that must be related and deserve the right to carry some form of title in the present, or are they not even considered relatives? I hope that I made sense. Thanks for any response. Merry Christmas all!!
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Old 12-17-2007, 05:07 PM
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Thank you Magnik. That is great information. Let me give you an example though: Say I find out I am related to the house of Spain through my great grandfather who is related through a cousin of the King but my great grandfather doesnt have a title that we know of and we are trying to establish that now. Would we have the right to carry the title that belongs to my great grandfather or would we have to get permission and recognition from the King in order for it to be legal?
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Does anyone know what happens with titles and styles when twins or multiple births occur? What's the protocol if a Queen or a Crown Princess gives birth to twins? Who gets to be sovereign?
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Old 01-08-2008, 01:47 PM
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I have heard that the second born will get sovereign! So was that in the middle ages. This was so because they thought that the second born was the first made in the belly (sorry I don't know the right word!).

Another question: When HRH Crown Prince Haakon of Norway become king, will HRH Crown Princess Mette-Marit than be HM Queen Mette or HM Queen Mette-Marit?
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Old 01-08-2008, 03:44 PM
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On the official site she is know as Crown Princess Mette-Marit, born Mette-Marit Tjessem Høiby on 19 August 1973. So she will be HM Queen Mette-Marit. And Haakon will be HM King Haakon Magnus I think.
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I think that this one which will born first will be possible next king/queen. Of course depend of the successional law.
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Furienna,

Diana, Princess of Wales, was not given any special treatment in regard to title after her marriage. It is standard practise for divorced wives of peers to use their first name followed by the former title. Diana's titles are as follows:

Prior to marriage: Lady Diana Spencer
During Marriage: Her Royal Highness the Princess of Wales
After marriage: Diana, Princess of Wales

The same applies to commoners:

Jane Smith marries John Harris and becomes Mrs. John Harris (although commonly called "Jane Harris"). They divorce and she becomes Jane, Mrs. Harris.
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Titles upon marriage

I am wondering if anyone has an idea about how a title would be handled in marriage between royals. Specifically the marriage of a female royal of a non-reigning house to a male royal of a reigning house. For example:

If HRH Princess Theodora of Greece and Denmark married HRH Prince Felix of Luxembourg, what would her title be?

HRH Princess Theodora of Luxembourg, Greece and Denmark? Or, since Luxembourg's monarchy is still reigning, would she just become HRH Princess Theodora of Luxembourg, dropping the Greece and Denmark?
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I believe it would generally be the latter. In your example, she is a Princess in her own right, thus would not lose that. But she would take her husband's title upon marriage, thus HRH Pss Theodora of Luxembourg.
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