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Old 09-18-2013, 09:03 AM
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The Princess of Asturias curtseys to King & Queen of the Netherlands.

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Old 09-18-2013, 09:08 AM
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Elena curtseys to WA
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People bowing and curtseying to HI&RH Princess Maria Elizabeth, Dowager Imperial of Brazil, on her 90th birthday (2004).

http://idisabel.files.wordpress.com/...20dm.jpg?w=529

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(A hand-kissing) http://idisabel.files.wordpress.com/...m202.jpg?w=529

A man bowing to HI&RH Prince Luiz, Head of the Imperial House of Brazil, on his 67th birthday (2005).

http://idisabel.files.wordpress.com/...ntos.jpg?w=529
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Old 09-19-2013, 10:54 PM
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A man bowing to HI&RH Prince Luiz, Head of the Imperial House of Brazil, on his 67th birthday (2005).

http://idisabel.files.wordpress.com/...ntos.jpg?w=529
The guards behind..are they of Brazilian Armed Forces? Or privately hired?
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Old 09-20-2013, 11:37 AM
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The guards behind..are they of Brazilian Armed Forces? Or privately hired?
They are from the Armed Forces.

They are part of the Cerimonial Guard of the Emperor's Grenadiers, a branch of the Brazilian Army, part of the 1st Emperor's Battalion, still serving the Imperial Family for cerimonial purposes.

Some pictures of them with the Imperial Family:

http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...37132809_n.jpg

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http://www.idisabel.org.br/portugues...o2004/g/10.jpg

HRH Prince Antonio of Brazil, third in the Line of Succession to the Brazilian Throne, is patron of them. Every year, in the anniversary of the Battalion, His Royal Highness attends the festivities. Last year, he received the Emperor's Grenadiers Medal of Merit:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-X67a1WRlfQ...0_00_00_00.jpg

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I'm unsure if this question has been posted before yet but I'd like to ask with her position is now reverted back to a Princess and if she is present, will Beatrix now have to curtsey to the new King and Queen of the Belgians when they pay an introductory visit at the end of November/ early December?
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Old 09-20-2013, 11:55 AM
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I'm unsure if this question has been posted before yet but I'd like to ask with her position is now reverted back to a Princess and if she is present, will Beatrix now have to curtsey to the new King and Queen of the Belgians when they pay an introductory visit at the end of November/ early December?
In my opinion, Princess Beatrix will have to curtsy other Monarchs, because the position of King and Queen outranks her position as a Princess.

But I doubt King Albert II of Belgium or Grand Duke Jean of Luxembourg will ever have to bow to a King or Queen, because they retained their Monarchical titles.
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Old 09-20-2013, 07:36 PM
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I'm unsure if this question has been posted before yet but I'd like to ask with her position is now reverted back to a Princess and if she is present, will Beatrix now have to curtsey to the new King and Queen of the Belgians when they pay an introductory visit at the end of November/ early December?
No I do not expect Queen Beatrix (I shall always refer to her as Queen) to curtsey the Belgian monarch..Its once a monarch, lifelong a monarch. Just her title changes, and her precedence comes after the present King and Queen. But that doesnt diminish her status.
Actually, all these protocols are very "blurred" for Dutch/Belgian/Lux houses. Basically they dont curtsey among each other, and upon that abdication confuses everything.
In the first place, I think Beatrix will not be present at the official reception ceremonies of Belgian (or any other) royals visits. If at all they meet her in private then it doesnt matter whether she curtsies or not.
IMO there were never any instances of abdicated monarchs receiving visiting Heads of State or attending State banquets. I would appreciate any such pics/vids..
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Camilla curtseys to Sonja.

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Old 10-01-2013, 11:51 AM
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Mary curtseys to Henrik.

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Some differences I have noticed in Bowing/Curtseying habits between British RF and Da

British RF and Danish RF

1. The monarchs sons:

BRF : All the monarch's sons bow to her duly when they greet/welcome her
DRF : I have seen Fred&Jo bowing only at Fred's wedding. At almost all other occasions of greeting/welcoming, most importantly at Openings of Parliament, they do not bow..just kiss her..

2. The monarch's siblings:

BRF: Princess Margaret duly curtseyed the Queen along with everybody when The Queen was entering a Service, or at a first meeting of the day (atleast public ones)..
DRF: Princess Benedikte NEVER curtseys The Queen. In fact she is the only woman in an occasion/gathering that doesnt curtsey The Queen..

3. To The Monarch's consort:

BRF: Never seen any member of The RF bow/curtsey to Prince Philip.. except for the little bend kate did on Balcony on Trooping in 2011.May be he is cool with that.
DRF: All the royal ladies (again not Benedikte) curtsey to Prince Henrik..
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Old 10-02-2013, 08:15 AM
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Thanks vkrish! Very informative!
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British RF and Danish RF

1. The monarchs sons:

BRF : All the monarch's sons bow to her duly when they greet/welcome her
What about Anne?
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Old 10-03-2013, 09:31 AM
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What about Anne?
Of course she curtsies.. I searched a lot for a video of her curtseying HM, other than the one at her wedding. But I couldnt get.
Finally in the video of The Queen and DoE entering the Abbey for Coronation Diamond Jubilee Service, there is a top view of all the members of RF bowing and curtseying her. You should be able to spot one just on basis of their seating position and their hats..
Go to Youtube and search for "I was Glad" video of Coronation D.Jubilee Service..
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Old 10-12-2013, 10:28 PM
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Do we have any photos of curtsey from members of the Princely Family of Monaco or the Casiraghis? Or any photos of HSH Prince Albert being curtsied to?
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Aside from HSH Princess Charlene who seems to curtsy every chance encounter she has with foreign royals.
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I believe that as Albert is the head of state, Charlene is his wife, and Caroline is the wife of the head of a royal house, none of them would be expected to bow or curtesy to anyone (although, Charlene at least does do so).
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I believe that as Albert is the head of state, Charlene is his wife, and Caroline is the wife of the head of a royal house, none of them would be expected to bow or curtesy to anyone (although, Charlene at least does do so).
I thought as she's a HSH and not HRH, Charlene having a lower rank regardless of her being Princess Consort of Monaco, means she has to curtsey to pretty much everyone at a major Royal gathering she attends. I could be wrong of course, but that's what I think is the answer.
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Question:

When if ever does a royal courtesy a deposed monarch or the head of a house (Brazil, Portugal, Romania)? Or, do royals only courtesy reigning monarchs?

Another: What if princess Madeline for example or Martha Louise were to visit CP Pavlos and CP MC, would there be a courtesy?

Lastly. What about heads of houses who are not king/Queen (Serbia a, etc)? And what about CP Victoria or Mary, are they ever courtesy to? Or the heir to a non-reigning house?
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Question:

When if ever does a royal courtesy a deposed monarch or the head of a house (Brazil, Portugal, Romania)? Or, do royals only courtesy reigning monarchs?

Another: What if princess Madeline for example or Martha Louise were to visit CP Pavlos and CP MC, would there be a courtesy?

Lastly. What about heads of houses who are not king/Queen (Serbia a, etc)? And what about CP Victoria or Mary, are they ever courtesy to? Or the heir to a non-reigning house?
the key issue to answer your question is quite easy actually. It depends on the style and/or their role as a Head of State.
The style is that "acronym" preceding a title. In the case of Kings and Queens is HM (His/Her Majesty).In the case of an Emperor/Empress it is HIM(His/Her Imperial Majesty). They don't bow/courtsey to anyone but they're bowed and curtsied by everyone, whether they are still ruling or not.
If the Head of a State it's not a King/Queen/Emperor/Empress but a Prince or a Grand duke people will bow/courtsey to them . this happens not because of their styles [it can be HSI (His/Her Serene Highness) for a Prince, HGI (His/her Grand ducal highness) or HRH(His/Her Royal Highness) for a grand duke/grand duchess] but because of their position as Head of State.
Heads of State and ex Heads of State do not bow/courtsey to each other. they're considered to be at the same level.

Nowadays Princes and Princesses with the same style (His/Her Royal Highness, His/Her Highness, His/Her Serene Highness) that are not heads of State tend not to bow/courtsey to each other, even if they outrank each other (heir to the throne, second/ third in line to the throne, extinct monarchies members and so on), but probably in the past you would have seen a brother/sister of the Dauphin of France bowing/courtsey to him and his wife and their children for example.
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