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Old 01-31-2011, 10:31 PM
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Did anyone else notice on The Tudors what fabulous deep curtseys The Princess Mary made? Can't recall the name of the actress but she did a beautiful curtsey!
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Old 02-05-2011, 04:33 AM
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Post The Duchess of Alba visits Queen Elizabeth II Who will bow to whom?

SHE has more recognized titles than any other noble in the world.

Some six times a duchess, 10 times a countess, 24 times a marquise, and the ‘grandest of grandees’, she is even entitled to sit and wear her hat in the presence of the Spanish king.
So the big question is who will bow to whom when the Duchess of Alba, Cayetana Fitz-James Stuart, meets the British Queen this week.
The duchess, famous for her jet set lifestyle, is attending a Gala Concert and Dinner at Buckingham Palace following an invite from His Royal Highness The Prince of Wales. But the protocol between the Duchess and the British Royals is still something of a mystery.
It may in fact be the turn of Queen Elizabeth II to bow down to the woman included on Vanity Fairs best dressed list in 2009.
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Old 02-05-2011, 04:36 AM
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Old 02-05-2011, 04:55 AM
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HM the Queen is a Head of the State, thus she will not bow to the Duchess.
This question had been already discussed in this thread.
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Old 02-07-2011, 08:50 AM
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Ie does princess Benedikte have to curtsey to CP Mary? or even QSonja?
You can see here at the opening of Parliament 2009 that neither Benedikte nor Marie curtseyed to Mary, and only Mary and Marie curtseyed to QMII and PH after a peek on the cheek.

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Old 02-07-2011, 11:55 AM
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I think Benedikte would curtsey to Queen Sonja, though. I remember there's a picture on this thread where she curtseys to King Juan Carlos (I think).
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Old 02-07-2011, 12:13 PM
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Yes, I also think that she would curtsey to Queen Sonja
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Old 02-07-2011, 01:44 PM
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SHE has more recognized titles than any other noble in the world.

Some six times a duchess, 10 times a countess, 24 times a marquise, and the ‘grandest of grandees’, she is even entitled to sit and wear her hat in the presence of the Spanish king.
So the big question is who will bow to whom when the Duchess of Alba, Cayetana Fitz-James Stuart, meets the British Queen this week.
The duchess, famous for her jet set lifestyle, is attending a Gala Concert and Dinner at Buckingham Palace following an invite from His Royal Highness The Prince of Wales. But the protocol between the Duchess and the British Royals is still something of a mystery.
It may in fact be the turn of Queen Elizabeth II to bow down to the woman included on Vanity Fairs best dressed list in 2009.
Forgive my ignorance, but who is the Duchess of Alba? Is she a member of a reigning family?
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Old 02-07-2011, 01:58 PM
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She is a spanish noble, but not a member of a royal family
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Old 02-08-2011, 02:25 PM
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About the Duchess Cayetana Fitz-James Stuart, 18th Duchess of Alba - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia .
She is descendant of James VII/II King of Scotland and England through his son Duke of Berwick.
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Old 02-09-2011, 06:50 AM
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So the big question is who will bow to whom when the Duchess of Alba, Cayetana Fitz-James Stuart, meets the British Queen this week.
That's a myth, the Duchess of Alba has met Queen Elizabeth many times(she used to live in London, her father was the Spanish Ambassador) and she curtseys to the Queen. In fact, she curtseys to all the Queens, even the Bulgarian King's wife, Margarita, who technically is not a queen (she married a deposed tsar). Cayetana de Alba was the one who settled the matter in noble circles in Spain regarding this when she curtseyed to Margarita as if she were Queen. The rest followed suit.
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Old 02-18-2011, 03:34 AM
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A bow to Crown Princess Victoria

Also, I went over this thread and a lot of the earlier links to photos don't work:(
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Yes, unfortunately many links expire, agencies shift photo locations which make the links invalid, and members close their photo-hosting sites or delete the images.
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Baroness Thyssen, Carmen Cervera to Queen Sofia

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You might have not seen this photo before of Princess Diana; I hadn't. A Royal Protocol | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
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Old 04-23-2011, 08:32 AM
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There seems to be a missconception about Curtsy & Bowing.

There is a type of greeting, respect and beeing wellbred.

Any Gentleman (boy or man) may allways bow to any woman and/or kiss her hand; if she is married, if he plans to marry her, if he admires or respects her. But not in the street of course. So you will see a french President kissing the Hand for e.g. of CP Victoria / Q Silvia / Frau Merkel / my mother.

Any girl / unmarried women may curtsey to any elder woman, married woman, her grandmother and/or kiss her hand. A Girl / Young Women can also Curtsey to an respectec elder man. In our family we used to curtsey to my grandmother and kiss her hand and she gave us a kiss on the brow.

It is also considered polite to bow / curtsey to one another... to Women can curtsey to eachother - two men bow to one another.

The other type is bowing/curtseying to protocol - the spanish court-protokol to be known as the strictes. The Spanish protocol was also followed at the court of the Autrich- Habsburger.

So anyone who is concerned (members of the royal families, there employees etc.) should follow the protocol.
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Old 04-23-2011, 11:03 AM
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Since neither William nor Kate are the heirs to the throne would it be proper for them to curtesy/bow to Crown Prince Couples? Even on their wedding day? I know they will bow/curtesy to Kings and Queens......can't wait to see Kates curtesy to Her Majesty!
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HRH only curtsy or bow to a monarch and in some cases, their consort. Not a fellow HRH. Certainly not by convention anyway.
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Old 04-26-2011, 05:49 AM
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Actually I think you will find that many HRHs will bow or curtsey to CP e.g. Princess Anne and Princess Margaret both curtseyed to Diana after her marriage and Margaret even continued to do so after the divorce.

Personally I wouldn't cutsey to anyone as there is no reason to demean yourself to another human being but no doubt most here would do so.
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Personal choice as opposed to convention, I think you'll find. Certainly if after the fact.

Continental Europe observes no such partiality by practice. If say the Crown Princess of Denmark decided to curtsy to the Prince of Wales, she would do so not because she is obliged to (as she is her husbands equal, who in turn is Charles') but because she personally thought it appropriate. In saying that, I don't believe Mary would do so as she knows her place.

Interesting reference that the Princess Margaret continued to curtsy to Diana, Princess of Wales. I've personally not heard that so would be interested for a source if anyone happens to know of one :)

And certainly, 'demeaning' is a matter of opinion, naturally.
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