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Old 09-05-2018, 10:49 PM
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We were not required to bow or curtsy but we were expected to treat others with respect at all times. There was a time though I was required to bow and that was after the symphony orchestra I played with finished, we all stood up and bowed to the audience in appreciation for their clapping.
How fun, I never thought of the performers bowing (I don't remember seeing anyone do a curtsy - like sarahedwards2) to the audience as them showing appreciation for the applause of the audience. I mainly think of it as the way they receive the appreciation of the crowds.
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Old 09-06-2018, 11:11 PM
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How fun, I never thought of the performers bowing (I don't remember seeing anyone do a curtsy - like sarahedwards2) to the audience as them showing appreciation for the applause of the audience. I mainly think of it as the way they receive the appreciation of the crowds.


At the recital my teacher says to take a little bow after your performance, but almost no one does. I asked my teacher about it and she said they’re all too shy or nervous to do it.
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Old 09-07-2018, 06:47 AM
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She is the wife of a sovereign prince.. so outranks an heir...
You are correct however I believe we have to leave room for the human factor. Charlene is or was South African and the Queen is the head of the Commonwealth. That means, in the abstract, that the BRF were "her" royal family growing up and like most would respect them and expect to probably never actually meet one of them.

Then bang, years have passed, she has grown up, married a Prince and is herself HSH Princess Charlene and suddenly she is face to face with "her" royal family and she curtseys whether automatically or because it is a mark of respect to someone she has held in respect for most of her life is unknown.

What is known is the HSH Princess Charlene of Monaco has impeccable manners and her (unnecessary) curtsey probably provided a pleasant ice-breaker.
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Old 09-07-2018, 10:40 AM
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Coverage of the US Open Tennis Women's semifinal discussed Osaka's practice of bowing to the crowd after the match.

It was an interesting discussion. Osaka was born in Japan to an American Dad/Japanese Mom and the family moved to the US when she was 3. Eventually, she had to make a choice of what country to represent. Dad decided (I think it was Chris Evert - but one of the TV talking hands that relayed this) on Japan as there was less competition for top spots and funding in Japanese tennis. A big part of the chat was about Osaka straddling two cultures at the tender age of 20. And how the bow helps her to do that.

And I would agree that bows help show respect for cultures that recognize them. Imagine a world where we all had to stop and bow when we were getting in a heated argument. The pause alone would be refreshing. I can dream.
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Old 09-13-2018, 10:19 PM
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Actress Brigitte Bardot curtseyed to Queen Elizabeth II during a Royal Film Performance.
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Old 09-29-2018, 02:22 PM
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You are correct however I believe we have to leave room for the human factor. Charlene is or was South African and the Queen is the head of the Commonwealth. That means, in the abstract, that the BRF were "her" royal family growing up and like most would respect them and expect to probably never actually meet one of them.

Then bang, years have passed, she has grown up, married a Prince and is herself HSH Princess Charlene and suddenly she is face to face with "her" royal family and she curtseys whether automatically or because it is a mark of respect to someone she has held in respect for most of her life is unknown.

What is known is the HSH Princess Charlene of Monaco has impeccable manners and her (unnecessary) curtsey probably provided a pleasant ice-breaker.
You are right. I would also like to point out this discus that there is another important factor :the respect. Technically princess Charlene is not obliged to curtsey neither they were Carla Bruni or Bernadette Chirac beu they did. From respect to the queen and her age I believe
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Old 09-29-2018, 03:19 PM
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Are First Ladies expected to courtesy to monarchs?. Melanie Trump didn't courtesy to Queen Elizabeth neither she courtesy to King Abdullah during his and Queen Rania's visit to US.
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No they aren't. Presidents and their wives are equals to other world leaders and their wives.


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Old 10-12-2018, 07:45 PM
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Sarah, Duchess of York gets a royal bow from a member of the royal staff-
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Old 10-12-2018, 08:06 PM
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Are First Ladies expected to courtesy to monarchs?. Melanie Trump didn't courtesy to Queen Elizabeth neither she courtesy to King Abdullah during his and Queen Rania's visit to US.
No. According to the US Office of Protocol, the wife of a sitting President cannot be seen to curtsy to any monarch.

The exception was Catholic First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy making an impressive three curtsies to Pope John XXIII during a private audience in 1962, but that was in his position as Bishop of Rome and not as Vatican Head of State.

Nancy Reagan insisted on committing a faux pas against the advice of her Protocol expert when she curtsied to HM Elizabeth II..but that is another story for another thread.
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Old 10-13-2018, 08:29 AM
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The bow and the deep curtsy from the just married couple to Queen Elizabeth

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Old 10-13-2018, 11:21 AM
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It was Sarah’s father’s proudest moment when Sarah curtsied to the Queen at the end of her and Andrew’s wedding; I wonder if it was the same for Andrew yesterday?
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Old 10-13-2018, 03:49 PM
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In live ,No Bow, No Curtsey when ther new Weds left the Church.
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Old 10-13-2018, 03:52 PM
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I was impressed with that deep curtesy. A big dress, probably a not os light tiara and heels and she managed that. That´s skill.
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Old 10-13-2018, 05:19 PM
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have a question on the matter of the DEPTH of the curtsy. in The Queen, it's mentioned that "the depth of the curtsy, I leave that to my sister".....years ago, the King or Queen received the deepest one...and so on down the line. any info on this?
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Old 10-13-2018, 10:33 PM
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The queen left the church and Meghan did a curtsey

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Old 10-13-2018, 10:43 PM
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Eugenie's curtesy was quite impressive.
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Old 10-13-2018, 10:48 PM
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The queen left the church and Meghan did a curtsey

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hel.../%3fviewas=amp

Looks like Sophie was also....see a head bow as well.


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Old 10-13-2018, 10:50 PM
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Looks like Sophie was also....see a head bow as well.


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Yes, Kate, Sophie and Meghan all curtsied. There were a series of pictures showing each one.
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Eugenie's curtesy was quite impressive.
I would hope so! She's had decades of training and practice!
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