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Old 12-26-2017, 02:47 AM
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I love the way Harry, William and Catherine worked to make Meghan's first public curtsey a 'family affair'. Charles and Camilla were also in on it and they way they teed up the shot was a masterpiece.

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod...p&resize=768:*

And check out the look on Prince Philip's face. Awesome.
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Old 12-26-2017, 07:20 AM
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I think I like her curtsey better than Kate's (in this photo).

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/M...2byU_-ngPl.jpg
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Old 12-26-2017, 07:40 AM
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Well it's kinda hard to compare them...Meghan was right up against the back of the step it looks like. Also Kate is slightly turned instead of straight on.

I couldn't tell much about Meghan's curtsey this time, except she did it and it went well. I figure we won't see another one until the wedding.


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Old 12-26-2017, 08:18 AM
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I think I like her curtsey better than Kate's (in this photo).

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/M...2byU_-ngPl.jpg
Kate is also nearly 6 months pregnant, so bending and balance can be a challenge.
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Old 12-26-2017, 12:49 PM
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I love the way Harry, William and Catherine worked to make Meghan's first public curtsey a 'family affair'. Charles and Camilla were also in on it and they way they teed up the shot was a masterpiece.

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod...p&resize=768:*

And check out the look on Prince Philip's face. Awesome.
I think this is absolutely delightful - 2 handsome princes and their beautiful partners showing respect to their beloved Queen and, let's not forget, grandmother. Prince Philip looks so proud, and even the Princess Royal looks pleased!
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Old 12-26-2017, 04:59 PM
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Can’t believe we are talking about who had the best curtsy etc. I really hope it doesn’t come to this
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Old 12-26-2017, 05:04 PM
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Guess it sure has come to that......wonder what is next, who hold the cup of tea better, right or left hand.....

Either way, both ladies did their way and each was perfect in that!
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Old 12-26-2017, 05:11 PM
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Lets put it this way. Everyone would be able to curtsy better than I can. For me, the definition of curtsy equals "eating the floor".

Its not how they do it or who does it better. Its *why* they do it.
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Old 12-26-2017, 05:14 PM
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The late Duchess of Alba curtsies to HRH The Infanta Elena at the Palacio Real in Madrid.

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Old 12-26-2017, 06:43 PM
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Can’t believe we are talking about who had the best curtsy etc. I really hope it doesn’t come to this
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Guess it sure has come to that......wonder what is next, who hold the cup of tea better, right or left hand.....

Either way, both ladies did their way and each was perfect in that!
This thread is dedicated to Bowing and Curtseying, that people should comment on technique is a given and, should you care to check out the thread from the beginning I am sure you will find plenty to amuse and entertain you.

Being amazed at the depths Diana and Elena pulled off their curtseys textbook style or having a wee giggle about a wonky knee or bobbly head is almost mandatory. Sniping at other posters is not.
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Old 12-26-2017, 07:07 PM
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As I said......*Both ladies did it perfectly and their way*, that in itself was referring to the curtsy that they both did. Sometimes a little sense of humor goes a long way in life.
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Old 12-26-2017, 11:10 PM
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The reason why I said it was controversial is that there is a widespread misconception in the US, which has been actually repeated many times before on TRF, that Americans do not (or should not) bow (or curtsy) to anybody. Ms Markle's curtsy to the Queen would symbolically signify that she is giving up her "American identity" and embracing her new status as a British subject.

Just to make it clear, I don't think that is the case, but I'm pretty sure many Americans would see it that way.
This American is well aware that Meghan has to curtsy because of who she is marrying; there is no controversy for me.
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Old 12-26-2017, 11:34 PM
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Are you Catholic, Lisele? Here's what fisheaters.com has to say about genuflection:

Genuflection on Left Knee: How: Kneel on your left knee for a moment, bringing the left knee all the way to the floor and keeping the back straight. Hold for a moment, then stand. When: When greeting or leaving the Pope or other hierarchs with the rank of Bishop or above and who have jurisdiction over you (only when the Pope is not present) -- e.g., to the Bishop or Archbishop of your diocese, not of a neighboring diocese. During the left-knee genuflection, a kiss is given to the hierarch's ring. Then stand.

Genuflection on Right Knee: How:
Looking at what you are genuflecting toward, kneel on your right knee for a moment in the manner of a man proposing to a woman, bringing the right knee all the way to the floor, close to the heel of the left foot, keeping the back and neck erect. Hold for a moment, then stand. When:
  • Genuflect toward the Tabernacle where the Blessed Sacrament is reserved, and each time you pass in front of it (except when you're in procession, such as standing in line for Communion, or returning to your seat afterward). While this should, on one level, be a matter of habit, it shouldn't be done thoughtlessly. Remind yourself when genuflecting toward the Tabernacle that you are kneeling before God. Praying mentally, "My Lord and My God" is a good habit to get into while genuflecting on the right knee. If the Tabernacle is not on the Altar, genuflect toward the Altar and the Altar Crucifix.
  • Before a relic of the True Cross when it is exposed for public adoration.
  • On Good Friday to Holy Saturday, after the ceremony of the Adoration of the Cross, genuflect when passing in front of the exposed Crucifix on the Altar.
  • Before entering or after exiting your pew at church.

I am not (although my husband is Catholic) but my grandmother - may she rest in peace - was a very devout Catholic and insisted I learn to curtsey and genuflect. Thank you for this information
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Old 12-26-2017, 11:57 PM
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There’s a DF article on Meghan “wobbling” during her curtsy. I didn’t notice any wobble. She did just fine, IMO.

The Queen likes quick bobs. It’s the samething she did when she was Princess Elizabeth.
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Old 12-27-2017, 12:18 AM
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I thought she did a pretty decent job considering that this was her first Public curtsy. I am sure it will become more natural the more she does it.
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Old 12-27-2017, 12:20 AM
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There’s a DF article on Meghan “wobbling” during her curtsy. I didn’t notice any wobble. She did just fine, IMO.

The Queen likes quick bobs. It’s the samething she did when she was Princess Elizabeth.
I don't see she is wobbling too, but even if she did, I think it's okay and normal. She is still new to this, and it's something that really needs practice
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Old 12-27-2017, 12:37 AM
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Goodness, this was the very first time she curtsied in public and before HM no less.Give her a break here. How would anyone at the DF perform that curtsy to HM....me, I would faint dead at her feet. I watched the video a couple of times and could see a bit of nervousness yet that is to be expected after all she is with the most famous family in history and marrying into such.

Catherine is a pro at this and I bet these to girls got together and Catherine showed her how to curtsy ...........this is girl talk here. These 2 young ladies are going to be very good friends I think.
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Old 12-27-2017, 11:18 AM
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Meghan's curtsy IMO was too short and not deep enough.
I have the feeling that she finds curtsying silly and therefore didn' t follow Kate' s possible training but decided on her own what is "enough".....
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Old 12-27-2017, 11:30 AM
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Meghan's curtsy IMO was too short and not deep enough.
I have the feeling that she finds curtsying silly and therefore didn' t follow Kate' s possible training but decided on her own what is "enough".....
It didn't need to be deep or sustained, a bob would have been enough. It is a sign of respect, a courtesy, not a requirement.
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Old 12-27-2017, 11:36 AM
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This American is well aware that Meghan has to curtsy because of who she is marrying; there is no controversy for me.
I think a lot of the talk of controversy stemmed from when Barack Obama bowed to the Queen, which was unusual for a President. And technically, Meghan, still as an American, isn't required to do so. Although no one is really required to do so these days. However, I always expected that she would follow the same tradition as the Queen's grandchildren and other grandchildren-in-laws. I don't think I've seen any controversy surrounding this from Americans. Obama was a different situation on many levels.

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Meghan's curtsy IMO was too short and not deep enough.
I have the feeling that she finds curtsying silly and therefore didn' t follow Kate' s possible training but decided on her own what is "enough".....
None of the curtsies are supposed to last long with the exception of some special occasions. Typically it would just be a quick dip. And there was a video of the curtsy, hers lasted about the same amount of time as Kate's and she was actually lowered about the same or slightly more. Her left foot just wasn't as far to the right.

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Can’t believe we are talking about who had the best curtsy etc. I really hope it doesn’t come to this
We all know this was coming. And it's not even a simple style of minor different techniques (how far the foot goes back versus to the side), but of course it'd be who did it better. Next it'll be who shook hands better.

BTW, can someone clarify are they supposed to bow their head a little or not when they curtsy? I thought I read that's how it's supposed to be. But I do notice that doesn't always happen.
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