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Old 04-16-2013, 08:25 PM
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Adoption Rules

As I understand it, adoption is for the benefit of the child and not for the purpose of finding a ruling royal. Of course in some cases adoption is necessary as royal families have more than one consort and so on. For example the current royal family of England. Whether a child should join the line of succession has to do with their merit. Are they a royal themself already? Is their spot in succession a regnant position or merely a prince or princess in title? The fact is when joined into a royal family all are welcome though not all are equal in stature. Adoption is for the benefit of the child and their life. In this day and age countless families are single parent families and many are multi-parent families. So in essence the answer is YES and NO. It depends on the child, the family and the country. Often in America, people do not adopt others children so that they will still receive child support from the biological parent. Often financial issues out weigh the emotional connections of adoption. The other key issues are blood relationship and percentage relationship to Queen Victoria. This is important for the purpose of pairing so that the royals lines continue in existence.
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:42 PM
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If Prince Harry was married and had two biological children and something happened to him and his wife, the two children would be in the line of succession and someone in the family would raise his children since they are flesh and blood of the royal family.

If he wasn't married and had two children, then then wouldn't be in line to the throne. They may or may not be raised in the royal family.

In other countries, it depends, I guess.
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Old 02-24-2016, 09:43 PM
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Could Prince Harry adopt if he had to?
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Old 02-24-2016, 09:59 PM
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Harry just like anyone can adopt a child. The child just wouldn't be in the line of succession.


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Old 02-24-2016, 10:49 PM
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I am not sure why someone would 'have to' adopt? Harry is not heir and if he wants to remain a childless bachelor for life there would be no issue with that.
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Old 03-17-2016, 03:00 PM
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Zsa Zsa Gabor's husband Frederic Prince von Anhalt (born as Hans Robert Lichtenberg) was adopted in 1980 by Princess Marie Auguste of Anhalt (1898-1983).

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As far as I know, Zsa Zsa Gabor (* 1917, or before), is still alive.
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Old 03-17-2016, 03:18 PM
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Yes, Zsa Zsa is definitely alive though the 99 year old is in bad health, having a leg amputated and has been on a feeding tube.

The life and death dates in the post you responded to do not refer to Zsa Zsa. They refer to Princess Marie-Auguste of Anhalt the woman who adopted Zsa Zsa's husband and how he claims to be a prince. She died in 1983.

She was great-grandmother of Grand Duke Georg Mikhailovich, one of the best claimaints to the Russian throne. His father is the eldest child of Marie's son with her first husband Prince Joachim of Prussia.
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Old 03-17-2016, 03:30 PM
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Poor Zsa Zsa, so old and so alone. Her husband - is he a good or a bad man in her live ?
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Old 03-26-2016, 09:10 AM
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I don't know of any law that would prevent a royal from adopting - most likely the child wouldn't be in the line of succession if they didn't have royal blood but what if they did? If the child was distantly related to them or directly related to them would this make a difference.
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Old 03-26-2016, 09:51 AM
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Dynastic adoption has occurred in the past, often with the result of raising the child's place in the order of succession, or to eliminate the possible ambiguity of the question of succession. Some examples are cited earlier in this thread.
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Old 03-26-2016, 10:01 AM
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Today they can privately adopt as anybody else - Dynastic adoption is another thing, and would need in most european countries (if not all), as they are democracies, the consent of parlament / goverment / or a law set in place.
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Could a king and Queen adopt a child in medieval Germany

hey guys i was wondering could a king and Queen adopt a child in medieval Germany and still be in line for the throne? If you answer can you send along the url you used?
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Old 11-09-2017, 04:47 AM
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Where in medieveal Germany? There was no such place, it was a load of small states....
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yes, i was just trying to get the general location
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Old 11-09-2017, 06:42 AM
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It happened several times. Not only with children. Today's royal family of Sweden are descendants of Jean-Baptiste Jules Bernadotte, Marchal de France (1763-1844).

In 1810 -at the age of 47- this French military commander was adopted by King Carl XIII of Sweden as his heir.
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Interesting thread.

I'm re-posting from one of the Meghan/Harry threads:

I have been obsessed with the idea, mentioned in another thread, that if Meghan and Harry were to have fertility issues and had to use a surrogate, the child(ren) would not be considered "of the body" for the purposes of the inheritance of titles. I remembered the story of the Viscount and Viscountess Weymouth having their second child by surrogate in California, where children born by surrogate are considered the same as children born of the biological parents without medical intervention.

Anyone have any thoughts about this? I don't know why this is my obsession of all things, but couldn't they do some DNA tests or something to confirm maternity/paternity, should it become an issue?
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Old 01-30-2018, 08:54 PM
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Interesting thread.

I'm re-posting from one of the Meghan/Harry threads:

I have been obsessed with the idea, mentioned in another thread, that if Meghan and Harry were to have fertility issues and had to use a surrogate, the child(ren) would not be considered "of the body" for the purposes of the inheritance of titles. I remembered the story of the Viscount and Viscountess Weymouth having their second child by surrogate in California, where children born by surrogate are considered the same as children born of the biological parents without medical intervention.

Anyone have any thoughts about this? I don't know why this is my obsession of all things, but couldn't they do some DNA tests or something to confirm maternity/paternity, should it become an issue?
I think the topic was discussed before on TRF. According to the British posters, under British law, the legal mother is the surrogate mother who gave birth to the child, even if the child's DNA is not hers, but somebody else's.

I don't know about the father though, which would matter in this case as far as any inheritance of titles is concerned. My interpretation is that, since the father is not married to the legal mother (i.e. the surrogate), then, even if the biological father is recognized as the legal father, the child would still be illegitimate and could not therefore inherit the title. Is that correct ?
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Old 01-30-2018, 08:57 PM
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Well, it seems to me that there would be an actual point to the rules, that is, to promote legitimate heirs and because there has to be some kind of standard for heirs, right? If that is the case, then can't they just change the rules?
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If that is the case, then can't they just change the rules?
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