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Old 06-08-2013, 06:10 PM
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Victoria and Daniel in Drottningholm this evening
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Old 06-08-2013, 06:44 PM
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...and another of them stealing a kiss.


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Old 06-08-2013, 06:47 PM
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Can anyone help but love these two? They are so in love, after so many years together. And they sure love their daughter as well. Maybe I'm partial, but I think that they are the most lovely royal couple out there
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Old 06-08-2013, 06:54 PM
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And how kind of them to kiss in the outside where the photographers could catch it. Where is Estelle by the way? It was so important to have her with them in the church but not in Drottningholm?
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Old 06-08-2013, 06:56 PM
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And how kind of them to kiss in the outside where the photographers could catch it. Where is Estelle by the way? It was so important to have her with them in the church but not in Drottningholm?
Estelle was probably at home (Haga slott) with her paternal grandparenst, who reportedly are babysittning this weekend. I think it's perfectly natural to bring her to the ceremony in the church, and then let her go home.
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Old 06-08-2013, 06:57 PM
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Can anyone help but love these two? They are so in love, after so many years together. And they sure love their daughter as well. Maybe I'm partial, but I think that they are the most lovely royal couple out there
Love the second picture with Daniel looking at the camera. Adore the little sly look on his face, a little mischievous.
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Old 06-08-2013, 07:02 PM
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Estelle was probably at home (Haga slott) with her paternal grandparenst, who reportedly are babysittning this weekend. I think it's perfectly natural to bring her to the ceremony in the church, and then let her go home.
Yes, perfectly natural for Show Princess Victoria. No TV in Drottningholm, no need to take the child along.
For me it's perfectly natural that children attend the party afterwards, but not the church ceremony as it is hard for them to sit still and be quiet.
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Old 06-08-2013, 07:06 PM
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Yes, perfectly natural for Show Princess Victoria. No TV in Drottningholm, no need to take the child along.
For me it's perfectly natural that children attend the party afterwards, but not the church ceremony.
Eh... do you seriously think that the affection that Victoria and Daniel keep displaying towards eachother (and Estelle) is just a show?

In Sweden it's very common that children are allowed to witness the ceremony in the church, but are then left at home with a babysitter when the big party starts. Most weddings I've been to over here have been child free parties. So it's totally in line with the tradition over here.
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Old 06-08-2013, 07:11 PM
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I totally agree with you Ricarda.A girl of Estelle's age has nothing to do in a church wedding.As I have said in another thread a small child distracts the attention from the couple and the ceremony.
I would never have thought to say that of Victoria but she seems to be an attention seeker.Why kissing and showing all that affection on the boat where her newly wed sister was.
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Old 06-08-2013, 07:24 PM
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On the contrary. Children should be at church. "Let the children come to me", you know? In Sweden, people almost always bring kids to the ceremony in the church. Nothing strange about that.
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Eh... do you seriously think that the affection that Victoria and Daniel keep displaying towards eachother (and Estelle) is just a Show?
I don't think that their love for each other and their child is just a show.
But I think it is also a show for PR reasons. And that Estelle is much more exposed to the media at a very early age than the children in other royal houses have been. Even on German TV which is very pro-SRF (thanks to Queen Silvia) they were making jokes about it.
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Old 06-08-2013, 07:29 PM
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But that wasn't a sunday service,it was Madeleine and Christopher's special day.They should be the stars of the day and no one else
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Old 06-08-2013, 07:39 PM
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But that wasn't a sunday service,it was Madeleine and Christopher's special day.They should be the stars of the day and no one else
Ah, I think I need to try to explain something here. In Sweden, the chuch ceremony is actuallty a church service. It's technically just a version of the sunday service.

The church ceremony is called "vigselgudstjänst" here. Vigsel = the legal part of the wedding. Gudstjänst = church service.

If the church ceremony isn't a service in your country, that might partially explain why people don't bring kids.
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Old 06-08-2013, 07:42 PM
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I totally agree with you Ricarda.A girl of Estelle's age has nothing to do in a church wedding.As I have said in another thread a small child distracts the attention from the couple and the ceremony.
I would never have thought to say that of Victoria but she seems to be an attention seeker.Why kissing and showing all that affection on the boat where her newly wed sister was.
I must say this day has changed my perception of Chris, Madeleine and Victoria. The bridal couple was much more appealing than I thought they were. And Victoria less appealing (though I have that feeling for a longer time now). She had to play "the couple sooo much in love, with their cute little daughter" on her sister's wedding day. And there are people complaining about Sofia loving the media attention too much.
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Old 06-08-2013, 08:08 PM
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I must say this day has changed my perception of Chris, Madeleine and Victoria. The bridal couple was much more appealing than I thought they were. And Victoria less appealing (though I have that feeling for a longer time now). She had to play "the couple sooo much in love, with their cute little daughter" on her sister's wedding day. And there are people complaining about Sofia loving the media attention too much.
Do you think, maybe just maybe, Victoria ASKED her sister if it was okay to bring Estelle? And Madeline said yes? It just shows that Madeline has a deep love for her niece and wanted her there. Everyone knows how quickly a child, especially at Estelle's age, can turn from calm to bratty. This was no attention-seeking at all. You forget Victoria is the Crown Princess of Sweden. She already has a high profile and is extremely popular in her own right.
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Old 06-08-2013, 08:09 PM
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I truly enjoyed seeing Chris show so much emotion. It was actually quite refreshing after the last several days of events. He seemed to be really excited about the day, maybe even more so than Madeleine. All of the kisses were really cute and him tearing up reminded me of Frederick when Mary walked down the aisle, very touching. And as far as Estelle goes, I don't know the circumstances about why she was there, I usually side with those saying that young children do not need to be at a wedding, unless the bride and groom expressed a wish for them to be there.
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Old 06-08-2013, 08:17 PM
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If you are against children at a wedding, then I hope you avoid our area. Weddings here are for the entire family and there are lots of children.
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I totally agree with you Ricarda.A girl of Estelle's age has nothing to do in a church wedding.As I have said in another thread a small child distracts the attention from the couple and the ceremony.
I would never have thought to say that of Victoria but she seems to be an attention seeker.Why kissing and showing all that affection on the boat where her newly wed sister was.
From all accounts, she was really well-behaved, no? There's way too much over-analyzing going on here.
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(though I have that feeling for a longer time now).
Ok, I think this is the problem. It seems to me that you are looking for things to criticize about Victoria.

I, for one, completely disagree. It is very possible, indeed probable, that having Estelle at the wedding is something that Madeleine and the king wanted.
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Old 06-08-2013, 09:10 PM
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I have no doubt that if Madeleine and/or Chris objected to Estelle being at the church, the child would have been left at home. And it is also obvious that Estelle is a placid and observant little girl and was unlikely to be noisy. And there was a plan in place if that did happen. I see no problem with her being at the church. As for the dinner, that would have been just too much. I don't know how many dinners I have been to that have been ruined by a screaming tired tantrum! No place for a young child.
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