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Old 08-18-2014, 01:01 PM
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Umm, for the modern royal...I would say King Phillipe of Belgium. He is ~12 years older than Queen Mathilde too.
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So many examples: Often the man was older than his wife.

And the other way round ?

Not yet ?

Or is any case known ?

Heu... from the present-day royals:
Princess Laurentien (1966) is older than her husband Prince Constantijn of the Netherlands (1969);
Princess Märtha Louise of Norway (1971) is older than her husband Ari Behn (1972);
Princess Tessy (1984) is older than her husband Prince Louis of Luxembourg (1985);
Princess Sophie (1967) is older than her husband Hereditary Prince Aloïs von and zu Liechtenstein (1968):
Infanta Doña Cristina (1965) is older than her husband Iñaki Urdangarín (1968);

Etc. Etc. Etc.
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Old 08-18-2014, 01:27 PM
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But the combination of 'royals marrying later in life' amd 'woman older than spouse' is not very common; it did happen occassionally (i don't have an example at hand right now), but realistically, in older times the two main reasons for marriage (not only for royals) were 1) to be able to get through life (in other words: have enough money to live) and 2) to reproduce (iow, have kids).
In a lot of cases, if a woman didn't (re)marry at an advanced age meant that she had enough money to get through life without a man (this was seen as quite an achievement for the woman), and women after a certain age are not able to reproduce, so that reason would be off the table as well...

But i'm sure there are some examples of women getting married later in life to a same-age or younger man, sometimes even a lover who she had not been allowed to marry when younger..
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Old 08-18-2014, 02:47 PM
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Okay, strictly speaking not royal (but noble) but a lady who did marry later in life is the current duchess of Alba, who married her second husband at age 52 (if i'm not mistaken) who was 8 years her junior and her third husband at age 85 and he was 24 years younger
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Old 08-18-2014, 10:14 PM
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Okay, strictly speaking not royal (but noble) but a lady who did marry later in life is the current duchess of Alba, who married her second husband at age 52 (if i'm not mistaken) who was 8 years her junior and her third husband at age 85 and he was 24 years younger
Actually, the Duchess married in third nutptials in 2011 to her current husband
Luis Martínez de Irujo y Artázcoz (m. 1947; dec. 1972)
Jesús Aguirre y Ortiz de Zárate (m. 1978; dec. 2001)
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A couple of examples of Royal men who married (late in life) to much older women were Infante Luis Fernando of Spain (1888-1945), who aged 42 married in 1930 to 73-year-old Marie Say (widow of Prince Henri Amedée de Broglie), and Prince Christopher of Greece and Denmark (1888-1940), who married in 1920 to 47-year-old American Nancy Leeds, née Stewart.
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Emperor Francis I of Austria married his fourth wife, Caroline Augusta in 1816 when he was 48.
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She was Princess Caroline Auguste of Bavaria (1792-1873), a daughter of King Maximilian I of Bavaria. At the time of her wedding to Emperor Franz she was 24 and was divorced from King Wilhelm I of Württemberg, to whom she has been married from 1808 until 1814.
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Who was the oldest King to father a child?
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Who was the oldest King to father a child?
I think King William III of the Netherlands might be a good contestant. I believe he was in his 70-80s when he remarried (to the 21 year old Enma).
I will check the dates.
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Old 08-03-2016, 04:05 AM
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He was born 1817
And married Emma in 1879
So, 62. A bit younger than I remembered.
He died in 1890, when the daughter from his second marriage was still only 10 years old. Queen Emma acted as Regent untill Wilhelmina turned 18 in 1898 and became Queen.
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Emma was younger than his 3 sons, 2 of whom were alive when they wed. William was 39 (born in 1840) and Alexander 28. The middle brother died earlier. William died in 1879 and Alex in 1884, their mother had in 1877. At 39 and 33, both died never having married.


By country broke down marriages into 2: 1st spouse/any spouse (case of multiple). and kids eldest at birth of 1st, and eldest of simply any child


Dutch:
-1st marriage: Philip William (52)
-1st child: William IV (37)
-marriage: William III (62)
-child: William III (63)


Belgium:
-1st marriage: Philippe (36)
-1st kid: Leopold I (43)- not counting stillborn with Charlotte)
-marriage: Leopold I (42)
-kid: Leopold I (50)


England (prior to union)
-1st m: Edward the confessor (43)
-1st k: Henry I and James I(34)
-m: Edward I (60)
-k: Edward (67)


Scotland: prior to James VI
-1st m: William Lion (43)
-1st k: William Lion (50)
-m: Alexander III (44)
-K: William Lion (55)
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In 1879 His Majesty Willem III Alexander Frederik Paul Lodewijk, King of the Netherlands, Prince of Orange-Nassau, Grand Duke of Luxembourg, etc. etc. etc. married at the age of 62 with Her Royal Highness Princess Adelheid Emma Wilhelmine Theresia Princess von Waldeck und Pyrmont then aged 21....

Their daughter Wilhelmina (grandmother of Princess Beatrix) would reign the Netherlands for almost 60 years (1890-1948)


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King Willem I of the Netherlands (1772-1843) married in 1840 Henriette countess d'Oultremont de Wégimont (1792-1864). It was his second marriage. She was a lady-in-waiting from the Kings first wife Queen Wilhelmina of Prussia. She was a catholic and that was a problem then for a protestant dynasty.

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Heu... from the present-day royals:
Princess Laurentien (1966) is older than her husband Prince Constantijn of the Netherlands (1969);
Princess Märtha Louise of Norway (1971) is older than her husband Ari Behn (1972);
Princess Tessy (1984) is older than her husband Prince Louis of Luxembourg (1985);
Princess Sophie (1967) is older than her husband Hereditary Prince Aloïs von and zu Liechtenstein (1968):
Infanta Doña Cristina (1965) is older than her husband Iñaki Urdangarín (1968);

Etc. Etc. Etc.
All four daughters of Queen Juliana married a man who was older than they were. (Prince Claus 12 years and Jorge Guillermo 1 year for instance). But that is not so very exceptional I think.
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He was born 1817
And married Emma in 1879
So, 62. A bit younger than I remembered.
He died in 1890, when the daughter from his second marriage was still only 10 years old. Queen Emma acted as Regent untill Wilhelmina turned 18 in 1898 and became Queen.
Casimir Jagiellon (1427 –1492) was the third and youngest son of King Władysław II Jagiełło and his fourth wife, Sophia of Halshany. His father was already 65 (or 75, exact date of birth unknown) at the time of Casimir’s birth.

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After his tragic short marriage to Princess Charlotte of Great Britain, who died in 1817, Leopold I, later King of the Belgians, married Louise Marie of Orleans in 1832. He was then 42 and she was 22 years younger. He outlived her too.
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In the modern day stakes Prince Charles has to be well up there when he married Camilla!
Even his marrriage to Diana at 32/33 some twenty five odd years earlier he was seen as a late starter!
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Heu... from the present-day royals:
Princess Laurentien (1966) is older than her husband Prince Constantijn of the Netherlands (1969);
Princess Märtha Louise of Norway (1971) is older than her husband Ari Behn (1972);
Princess Tessy (1984) is older than her husband Prince Louis of Luxembourg (1985);
Princess Sophie (1967) is older than her husband Hereditary Prince Aloïs von and zu Liechtenstein (1968):
Infanta Doña Cristina (1965) is older than her husband Iñaki Urdangarín (1968);

Etc. Etc. Etc.
Queen Silvia is also older than King Carl-Gustav
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Old 08-21-2016, 03:08 PM
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In the modern day stakes Prince Charles has to be well up there when he married Camilla!
Even his marrriage to Diana at 32/33 some twenty five odd years earlier he was seen as a late starter!
I think that around 30 wasn't too bad but he was leaiving it a bit late, when he had to marry a young woman. He and Cam are almost the same age I tink she may be a year or so older?
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I think that around 30 wasn't too bad but he was leaiving it a bit late, when he had to marry a young woman. He and Cam are almost the same age I tink she may be a year or so older?
Camilla is 16 months older, born July 1947, Charles November 1948

A second marriage is very different. If younger like Joachim there is expectation of kids. But Charles and Camilla both had grown kids, and were looking to be grandparents (Tom married same year, Laura the following, Lola born 2 years later). Their marriage is one of love and companionship, happy to share in each other's kids/grandkids. Seeing Charles with Cam's granddkids,you can see a bond.

Anne was 42 when she remarried. Tim was 37. If ages were reversed, perhaps kids may have been considered. I wonder if Tim ever missed having his own? But he seems close to her kids, and a doting grandpa to her 3 granddaughters. Peter would have been 15. and Zara 11 when they wed.

Marrying older is becoming more common. In 1981, Charles was considered late at 33. And even in 1999, Edward at 35. Yet in 2015, when 36 year old Carl Philip got married, no such 'later age' talk was had. The 'marrying age' has gone up (especially for men) and so has the 'later in life' age. Royal women the age talk remains as kids over 40 is still grey area for many. Woman married at 36 has less years for kids. Sophie was 34, 38 with Louise and 42 with James and had issues with both. Sofia on the other hand is 31 (32 in December), so even if CP is 37, she is younger.
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