Royals having plastic surgery

[Genevieve]

Originally Posted by Marengo

so our list thus far:

HM Queen Sylvia of Sweden
HM King Juan-Carlos of Spain
HM Queen Sonja of Norway
HM Queen Noor of Jordan
HM Queen Rania of Jordan
HRH Princess Marina of Italy
HRH Duchess Diane of Wurttemberg
HRH Princess Michael of Kent
HRH Princess Beatrice of France
HH Begum Inaara

Where does this list officially come from? Did the royal courts of all these places confirm to you that these individuals had plastic surgery of some sort? Isn't it pure speculation otherwise?

[Genevieve]

Originally Posted by Guido

No doubt that QN had her face lifted. She looks too artificial. Her face is too tight and doesn't have any natural mimicking. IMO, she is not beautiful at all.

What about her is too artificial? I think Noor an absolutely stunning and graceful woman. She may not be perfect (botox or not) but that makes her all the more attractive. She has a innerdeep serenity about her that is amazing.

For everyone: Did anyone stop to think that these pictures may be doctored by the photo agencies? They come from Getty and Polfoto and whatever. Such pictures are purposely grainy until you buy them, and some photos, especially those in magazines like Hello would most assuredly have been Photoshopped. So what you may think of as a nip and tuck or botox may just be art directors and photo editors fixing the photos themselves.

Besides, what's wrong with plastic surgery or botox one way or another? If it makes someone feel better about themselves then so be it. Who are we to judge if someone wants the saggy skin around their eyes pulled back and tightened or doesn't like the frown lines on their forehead?

[Humera]

You're right Genevieve, I wanted to mention this before but didnt want to push the matter. The official pics are often "doctored" or airbrushed. Its happened many times, like some pictures of Princess Diana. Which is why I mentioned that I didnt see any changes in Noor when I saw her on TV last night.
I dont agree with making lists either. The fact remains that we're all speculating. Whether a change is obvious or not, we dont have "official" confirmation of our assumptions.

[Genevieve]

Originally Posted by ~*~Humera~*~

I dont agree with making lists either. The fact remains that we're all speculating. Whether a change is obvious or not, we dont have "official" confirmation of our assumptions.

Ultimately, if the plastic surgery was good, and the plastic surgeon top notch, one would barely even notice the surgery in the first place. There would most certainly not be any visible scars like some members seem to think they see. And any good plastic surgeon worth his dollar will advise women to have the surgery done before they actually need it so that the procedure is not obvious.

[stacy]

Originally Posted by Genevieve

Besides, what's wrong with plastic surgery or botox one way or another? If it makes someone feel better about themselves then so be it. Who are we to judge if someone wants the saggy skin around their eyes pulled back and tightened or doesn't like the frown lines on their forehead?

Nothing wrong with it at all - as long as they don't go too far and end up looking scary (= Begum Inara)

[stacy]

Originally Posted by Genevieve

Where does this list officially come from? Did the royal courts of all these places confirm to you that these individuals had plastic surgery of some sort? Isn't it pure speculation otherwise?

It's pure speculation, no royal court ever have - or likely ever will - confirm it if any member of a royal family has had any cosmetic surgery done.

[tipper]

[quote=Marengo]I think that HM Queen Sonja of Norway has had some work done on her face as well, since a couple of years she has these 'cat-eyes'. HRH Princess Beatrice of France (married to Prince Michel of France & sister-in-law to the Duchess of Wurttemberg) has had help with her face as well, it looks like plastic.

I am not sure about HRH Princess Marie-Gabrielle of Italy (now a duchess of Bourbon-Parma? & previously married to a Yougoslav prince), Micaela, the wife of the count of Paris (now Ducess of France I believe) and HRH Princess Beatrice of Bourbon-Two-Sicilies.

Princess Maria Pia, not Maria Gabriella, who's her younger sis, - that was the 1 who was married to Prince Alexander of Yugoslavia, and she's been having a close relationship to her cousin Prince Michele di Borbone Parma, since her divorce, - so u should call her P Maria Pia di Savoia. :) :)

[tipper]

Originally Posted by ~*~Humera~*~

we're still not absolutely sure about Queen Noor. I was watching her on Larry King last night and frankly she doesnt seem to me to be the type of person who'd have plastic surgery. Im pretty sure she hasn't had any work done. Botox may be as far as it goes. And thats a cosmetic proceedure.
I dont see how anyone could be sure though. Atleast with Queen Rania, the nose job is evident.

Q Rania has had many face jobs, not only her nose- as for all the oters, apart from Q Noor, I think the result is awful enough, exp. for Marina di Savoia, who's 70 years old, now. :p

[tipper]

[quote=Guido]

Originally Posted by ~*~Humera~*~

No,I am not the first person who say that she is not beautiful at all. Karima said earlier that she resembles a monster or you find nice this word?

I'd like to have a look at u and at karima.... a monster ? I found her very beautiful, she was beautiful and she's still now, then, she's only 53, not at all old.

[tipper]

Originally Posted by karima

I said, if she should stop before she resembles a monster. She used to be gorgeous and also seemed to be aging well. Why did she feel the need to go under the knife?

sorry, karima, didn't read this message, my previous reply applies only for guido.:) :)

[closesttoheaven]

Originally Posted by karima

Queen Noor should stop before she ressembles a monster. IMO
I heard Queen Silvia is quite an adept of Plastic surgery.

if you have pictures, please post them

dont think that she did anything.because with botox she couldnt make wrinkels on her forehead - but she can!
i think she looks just pretty for her age.....
some do - and others dont do....

[Alexandria]

There is no need for personal attacks or for attacks to royals in this thread.

Calling any public figure a "moster" is not appropriate at this forum. I would ask that everyone consider the language in their posts before making them.

Please review our Forum Posting Rules & Guidelines: http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...ead.php?t=4920.

As the majority, if not all of the contents in this thread are pure speculation and hearsay rather than concrete facts and stories, which is already a violation of our Forum Posting & Rules, if members are interested in keeping this thread open then I hope that everyone will discuss nicely and civily. Otherwise I will close this thread.

[karima]

Can you guys stop quoting me on QN being a monster?

thanks

[lashinka2002]

Princess Caroline seems to have had Botox in my opinion.

Not a bad thing just a little obvious since she smokes, drinks and spends many days out in the sun. She looks almost 20 years younger than her sister.

[Anita]

[quote=Marengo]I think that HM Queen Sonja of Norway has had some work done on her face as well, since a couple of years she has these 'cat-eyes'.

I do not think that Queen Sonja has had some work done . I have to look for a pic of her in her young days but it seems to me that she has always had these beautiful cat-eyes . Anyway, I'm nearly sure that she doesn't use botox because, as someone said it on this thread, when you use it, you can't make wrinkles on your forehead . And Queen Sonja often pulls faces and has a lot of wrinkles on her face ! But I will look for pics ...

[Isabel]

Originally Posted by lashinka2002

Princess Caroline seems to have had Botox in my opinion.

Not a bad thing just a little obvious since she smokes, drinks and spends many days out in the sun. She looks almost 20 years younger than her sister.

I am not sure if I can agree with that. For a while Caroline seemed to be aging quite well, but all of sudden it seems that she began looking tired and much older in the past year. It doesn't seem like she has been using botox. I really think that her skin looks awful. Caroline does smoke a lot, but she has for years and she always looked wonderful, but not lately. Clearly she is an attractive woman but it is just that now she is really starting to look her age which is not actually a bad thing, but it was such a sudden change.

[closesttoheaven]

Originally Posted by karima

Can you guys stop quoting me on QN being a monster?

thanks

sorry it was not because of the monster thing only because of the whole issue

[lashinka2002]

Originally Posted by Isabel

I am not sure if I can agree with that. For a while Caroline seemed to be aging quite well, but all of sudden it seems that she began looking tired and much older in the past year. It doesn't seem like she has been using botox. I really think that her skin looks awful. Caroline does smoke a lot, but she has for years and she always looked wonderful, but not lately. Clearly she is an attractive woman but it is just that now she is really starting to look her age which is not actually a bad thing, but it was such a sudden change.

I thought she looked to good for a womam her age but I think the stress of the past year (father passing away, EA sick) may have aged her considerably. The tabloids can also make her look good or bad if they truly please. Who knows...

[Binky]

Does anyone think that Princess Diana would have had plastic surgery or Botox had she lived?

I think Botox, maybe.