Royals having plastic surgery

[hibou]

Originally Posted by Humera

I dont think anyone can be sure that Queen Noor has gone "under the knife"
There hasn't been a drastic change in her appearance/face.
Botox is a differently matter. The only think I've noticed is fuller lips. We also have to remember that she's in her 50s. People's looks change over time. She has also lost a lot of weight and that's apparent in her face too.
And in many of the pics I've seen of her in the past couple of years, she even has bags under her eyes, whether thats related to lack of sleep and work I dont know. But obviously she didnt rush to the plastic surgeon to get rid of them.
I have looked at tons of pictures of hers over the years and haven't noticed anything drastic. Whatever proceedure she may or may not have had done, she's certainly not nearly close to resembling a monster.


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I've always admired Queen Noor. I think when you are a woman of a certain age and in the public eye it is wise to throw a few small well timed "monkey wrenches" into the age factor. A stitch in time saves nine. I think she has had little things done and possibly a brow lift or face lift. Most people start with the laser for the fine wrinkles (some as young as 30) and light peels, then perhaps botox for restalyne (sp) for forehead furrows, and then finally a brow lift or the eyes done and then a face lift (which involves only the chin and lower jaw area not the whole face). Many people choose to go one step at the time so it is a subtle change over time. Not your "Mother's" face lift as they say. But if done too soon one can get scary looking and if one has done too many, then the persons features start to change. I think one or maybe two well timed procedures can to wonders for women and especially those who have to face the cameras. JMO

[loubna2]

Originally Posted by samia

I read a testimony of a person of whom the aunt works in the palace of morocco, and she said that before her public apparition, lalla salma was sent in France to make plastic surgery for her ears, eyelids, lips and she had also a treatment for her face to remove the so many freckles that she had.
This testimony was very interesting also, because she spoke about other members of the MRF and also about other royals (queen rania, queen noor,…etc) that her aunt met in the wake of the MRF

I didn't know that salma did plastic surgery, its news for me; I always thought that she is a natural lady According to this testimony she did several changes on her face, the one that astonish me a lot is about the eyelids, I wonder if the pretty shape of her eyes is natural or artificial, it's one of the only things that I like in her face, then if it isn't natural….

[FarahJoy]

What would be interesting is to get the...
name and address of their surgeons when the result is good !

[sylla]

It seems to me that only those married into royal families are resorting to plastic surgery and that born royals, even if they don't like their appearance or the aging process, don't feel the need to butcher themselves.

[acdc1]

Originally Posted by sylla

It seems to me that only those married into royal families are resorting to plastic surgery and that born royals, even if they don't like their appearance or the aging process, don't feel the need to butcher themselves.

It's probably because they weren't born royal. They married into the royal family, which, in various degrees, is always a bit of a culture shock. They might feel that they need to look good all the time, even when they are aging, to keep the people's respect. Born-royals have had that respect (mostly) since the time that they were babies. But I'm sure that born-royals do get plastic surgery too, we sometimes just don't notice it as much.

[fee]

I agree, Sylla.
I assume, it has something to do with the public image that women who marry into royal families portrait.
The role of a princess is to be beautiful, fashionable and charming. Every "bad figure" every facial imperfection is ridiculed merciless (remember the Duchess of Pork).
Their photo is in so many mags and documentation, there are polls about who is the prettiest and so on.
I can actually understand why many of them resort to anti aging treatments and even plastic surgery. After all they can afford the best.
The "born" royals simply have a different self esteem. Having been born into the system, drinking the idea of being above the rest together with their mothers milk probably gives them a different perception. Also the reigning Queens (and none of them has had ps!) most likely experience the role differently as the accessorizing consorts.

[fee]

Originally Posted by acdc1

But I'm sure that born-royals do get plastic surgery too, we sometimes just don't notice it as much.

I agree with your post! However I doubt that Beatrix, Margrethe or Elizabeth ever used more than cold cream and moisterizer...
I remember that photo of Beatrix, a black and white portrait in which each and every of her wrinkles can be seen brutally clear and honestly it is so beautiful.
Also Elizabeth only coloured her hair for a short time (and didn't look very good with it, unfortunately back than L'Oreal just wasn't much better) but her skin is reported to be a true Peaches and Cream ( and most pictures agree with that even before the routine photoshop came into fashion).
Margrethe however is a different story. She might be intelligent and creative and a wonderful person, but her teeth are horrible. She is in dire need for a decent teeth cleaning

[UserDane]

Originally Posted by fee

II remember that photo of Beatrix, a black and white portrait in which each and every of her wrinkles can be seen brutally clear and honestly it is so beautiful.

I agree - that photo is one of the best portraits of a royal I have ever seen. It is beautiful and shows that wrinkles are not ugly.

[anirac]

Originally Posted by UserDane

I agree - that photo is one of the best portraits of a royal I have ever seen. It is beautiful and shows that wrinkles are not ugly.

I didn't thought anybody here knew the photo. I'm happy that my thoughts were wrong. It is from famous photographer Stephan Vanfleteren and I simply love his portaits.

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It is from 2000 and it is one of my absoloutly favourite portaits of Beatrix.

[UserDane]

Thank you for posting that incredible portrait Anirac - and thank you for the link to the photographer's site. I didn't know his name; he really makes some wonderful portraits.

[isis]

Originally Posted by samia

I read a testimony of a person of whom the aunt works in the palace of morocco, and she said that before her public apparition, lalla salma was sent in France to make plastic surgery for her ears, eyelids, lips and she had also a treatment for her face to remove the so many freckles that she had.
This testimony was very interesting also, because she spoke about other members of the MRF and also about other royals (queen rania, queen noor,…etc) that her aunt met in the wake of the MRF

it seems that lalla salma isn't as natural that I thought

[rosa]

Originally Posted by samia

I read a testimony of a person of whom the aunt works in the palace of morocco, and she said that before her public apparition, lalla salma was sent in France to make plastic surgery for her ears, eyelids, lips and she had also a treatment for her face to remove the so many freckles that she had.
This testimony was very interesting also, because she spoke about other members of the MRF and also about other royals (queen rania, queen noor,…etc) that her aunt met in the wake of the MRF

personally even if I never found lalla salma pretty, I never thought that she did plasyic surgeryyou make a scoopp with this testimony, samia

[GlitteringTiaras]

I would have to disagree.

It's not scoop, it's heresay. Noting that she "... read a testimony of a person of whom the aunt works in the palace of morocco..." is not really reliable.

[shrifia]

Originally Posted by samia

I read a testimony of a person of whom the aunt works in the palace of morocco, and she said that before her public apparition, lalla salma was sent in France to make plastic surgery for her ears, eyelids, lips and she had also a treatment for her face to remove the so many freckles that she had.
This testimony was very interesting also, because she spoke about other members of the MRF and also about other royals (queen rania, queen noor,…etc) that her aunt met in the wake of the MRF

this is a Surprising testimony and I wonder how accurate it is for a serval reasons(in my opinion)
lalla salma looks natural not like other women:(qnoor or qrania angelina jolie for example)....who seems clearly that they done something to their faces without even see their precedent pics.and from what I see lalla salma had a big and not nice nose and we all know that nose surgery is the most famous in world so what kind of doctor will not notice her nose.....it must be the first step for a women who looks for better face no?
maybe the testimony mean another moroccan princess lalla meryem she changed alot in a few years
before
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corbis
kamaroc
now
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basta

[sorsara]

Originally Posted by shrifia

this is a Surprising testimony and I wonder how accurate it is for a serval reasons(in my opinion)
lalla salma looks natural not like other women:(qnoor or qrania angelina jolie for example)....who seems clearly that they done something to their faces without even see their precedent pics.and from what I see lalla salma had a big and not nice nose and we all know that nose surgery is the most famous in world so what kind of doctor will not notice her nose.....it must be the first step for a women who looks for better face no?
maybe the testimony mean another moroccan princess lalla meryem she changed alot in a few years
before
corbis
corbis
kamaroc
now
GETTY
kamaroc
basta

Lalla Meryem looks like she changed only because she is older now, she has aged, so naturally the face looks different bit, but it doesnt seem to me that she had any plastic surgury. she looks the same only older.

[samia]

Originally Posted by shrifia

this is a Surprising testimony and I wonder how accurate it is for a serval reasons(in my opinion)
lalla salma looks natural not like other women:(qnoor or qrania angelina jolie for example)....who seems clearly that they done something to their faces without even see their precedent pics.and from what I see lalla salma had a big and not nice nose and we all know that nose surgery is the most famous in world so what kind of doctor will not notice her nose.....it must be the first step for a women who looks for better face no?
maybe the testimony mean another moroccan princess lalla meryem she changed alot in a few years
before
corbis
corbis
kamaroc
now
GETTY
kamaroc
basta

no, the testimony was about lalla salma, about salma's nose I agree it isn't at all nice, but perhaps it won't be change because this surgery is the one that is the most visible, and the palace want to present salma as a natural ladypersonally, when I read this testimony, it seems me to be true, because a part for lalla salma, she gave a lot info about other members of MRF and also about other royals (queen noor, queen rania), that her aunt met in the wake of the MRF

[*SofiaM*]

Since there hasn't been a post here for a few weeks, what about Queen Sofia?
In this close-up picture (you can zoom in), her face has lines but not really major wrinkles. Is it known whether she has had a bit of botox or something of the sort? If she has, her face still looks very natural IMO. Or perhaps she just looks after her skin?
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(originally posted by rchainho in the Spanish threads)

I personally think that most of the Queen consorts today have had something done, however major or minor. Not that there is anything wrong with that!

[Prince of Chota]

I think that no matter what royals did, people would complain. If more of these beautiful royal women aged naturally, people would make nasty comments about that. There is such incomprehensibly intense pressure on these women to look perfect ALL THE TIME. Even more than most movie stars are expected to sparkle. And I don't think there's anything wrong on inherantly unnatural about "plastic" surgury. We might as well be speculating about who waxes her eyebrows and saying how much we'd appreciate such-and-such a princess to keep the arch or her brows natural and thick.

[Vanesa]

Originally Posted by sylla

It seems to me that only those married into royal families are resorting to plastic surgery and that born royals, even if they don't like their appearance or the aging process, don't feel the need to butcher themselves.

Yes, Sylla. Indeed. I noticed exactly the same than you. Is for that I don't like not born royals (in a whole. There are some good exceptions, as always in life). There is some aspect in which they acts like "parvenus".

Oh wait! That's mean I'm a "born royal"? I shouldn't go to plastic surgery not even menaced of being killed if I don't go. I didn't like to get any surgery, if not extremely necessary. Don't forget that all surgery is potentially dangerous if there is some anesthesic involved and such. You may dead for a change in your appareance, and I find this a little stupid. Besides...if God or Nature (it happens there is no believers here) made us with a certain facial features, or having an "X" hair colour, or having a not so graceful figure, etc it must be for we must be this way. All these particularities are OURSELVES and anyone in the world will have them but OURSELVES. Appareance is part of ur personnality, and accepting it is a part of showing we are mature and happy with it.

Vanesa. (Yes..I know. I'm a dinosaurus)

[LadyFinn]

Latest photos of Queen Silvia from the 5th of November during her official visit to Colombia:
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The Queen was in Brazil for a few weeks before she went to Colombia. Looks like she has got some botox to her face, her face looks quite stiff.