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Old 05-19-2017, 01:37 PM
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Gotta make sure that baby is born within wedlock to keep it proper I guess.

And even more reason for Beatrice to be pissed.
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Old 05-19-2017, 02:24 PM
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Unfortunately Dman, I had exactly the opposite impression.

Me too.

I think Dave wanted the perks (with Beatrice) but not the commitment.
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Old 05-19-2017, 04:00 PM
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Me too.

I think Dave wanted the perks (with Beatrice) but not the commitment.
The guy have money and his own life. I think he wanted a wife and family and Beatrice wasn't ready. According to Rebecca English sources, Beatrice is happy for him.
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Old 05-19-2017, 04:17 PM
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The guy have money and his own life. I think he wanted a wife and family and Beatrice wasn't ready. According to Rebecca English sources, Beatrice is happy for him.

Well, she could hardly say anything else.
But I don't believe it, I think Beatrice must be feeling hurt.
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Old 05-19-2017, 05:58 PM
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Sadly, lots of relationships stretch out for a long time and then don't culminate in marriage. I think mature couples should marry while the flame is hot and new.
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Old 05-19-2017, 06:05 PM
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It could be like the line in Sex and City....Dave was the cab and he was ready to marry. His light was on...the next person who got in the cab...is now his fiancee.

If Dave was ready to get married and Beatrice was not...they did the best thing by breaking up. There is nothing worst than a couple dating for a significant amount of time [i.e. years], marry and than divorce within a short time of their marriage. And Beatrice doesn't have the option of a divorce...the press will have a field day with that one!

I had a girlfriend who dated her now ex husband for at least six years...they married [on my birthday no less...we all disliked him for various reasons] they weren't even married for a year before they started having problems [he was cheating]. While in Marriage Counseling, he admitted that he wasn't ready to marry but only proposed and married her because they had been together for so long and it was the next step. Mind you...she didn't pressure him to propose and get married.

My response to that when she told me was that just meant they should have broken up sooner and not gotten married.

Apparently, for whatever reason..Beatrice and/or Dave didn't think it was necessary to go to the next step. Someone wasn't ready.

Hopefully for the sake of his child, Dave has chosen wisely.
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Old 05-19-2017, 06:09 PM
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I agree with ladingas. I don't think relationships that last for almost a decade with no talk between the two people of marriage or a future engagement or at least settling down together, in the first couple of years can just drift on and on with no resolution. I think that's what happened in this case. And I always got the feeling that Beatrice was more invested in their relationship than Dave was.
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Old 05-19-2017, 06:26 PM
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I do think Beatrice dodged a bullet with Dave Clark; I always felt he was smarmy.

But I believe she is bound to feel hurt, even if she's putting a decent face on it.

(I truly hope she doesn't attend the wedding; she can easily contrive an important event so she can avoid it).
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Old 05-19-2017, 06:31 PM
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I do think Beatrice dodged a bullet with Dave Clark; I always felt he was smarmy.

But I believe she is bound to feel hurt, even if she's putting a decent face on it.

(I truly hope she doesn't attend the wedding; she can easily contrive an important event so she can avoid it).
I could see how she could possibly be hurt if he professed deep love for her. To declare love for someone and less than a year later...marry someone else? In hindsight, it can make you question the feelings that were expressed by both parties.

On the other hand, if your ex marries someone less than a year after you were in a relationship with that person, it can make you feel like you dodged a bullet.

I was always Meh about Dave Clark but he was her first serious boyfriend [in my mind, I know she dated that Italian guy] so I never put too much stock in their relationship. I never saw marriage as the end game for Dave and Bea. I think Bea needs to find herself before she marries. I think she has an idea but she is still searching.
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Old 05-19-2017, 06:49 PM
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You often hear of a couple breaking up because one of them wants to marry and have a family and the other doesn't. Then the one that didn't want to marry does get married and start a family!! That must be extremely sad so if that's the case with Bea I feel very sorry for her
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Old 05-19-2017, 07:07 PM
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I do think Beatrice dodged a bullet with Dave Clark; I always felt he was smarmy.

But I believe she is bound to feel hurt, even if she's putting a decent face on it.

(I truly hope she doesn't attend the wedding; she can easily contrive an important event so she can avoid it).
I can"t imagine anyone, other than a writer for a tabloid, thinking anyone has an obligation to attend an ex's wedding.
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Old 05-19-2017, 07:12 PM
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The guy have money and his own life. I think he wanted a wife and family and Beatrice wasn't ready. According to Rebecca English sources, Beatrice is happy for him.
Maybe she is happy for him, but really what else is she going to say?
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Old 05-19-2017, 08:02 PM
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Maybe she is happy for him, but really what else is she going to say?
I haven't seen Beatrice moping around since the split. There may be a little hurt present over the announcement, but I think she's okay with it and has moved on. Just like he has moved on. I just don't think the split happened because he didn't want to commit. I think it's Bea who wasn't ready and he was. It's very good and mature to end things because one isn't ready to get married.
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:44 PM
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I haven't seen Beatrice moping around since the split. There may be a little hurt present over the announcement, but I think she's okay with it and has moved on. Just like he has moved on. I just don't think the split happened because he didn't want to commit. I think it's Bea who wasn't ready and he was. It's very good and mature to end things because one isn't ready to get married.

Beatrice doesn't seem to be dating someone else though.

(As for not being ready to marry, I think she has been ready for some time and thought Dave would eventually marry her. Finally she was forced to accept that he wouldn't. It has to be hard for her, and I hope she finds a better partner in time).
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:51 PM
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Beatrice doesn't seem to be dating someone else though.

(As for not being ready to marry, I think she has been ready for some time and thought Dave would eventually marry her. Finally she was forced to accept that he wouldn't. It has to be hard for her, and I hope she finds a better partner in time).
Well, it's not easy for some people to jump in another relationship after dating somebody for so long. Also, dating have to be in your mind. I'm not sure Beatrice is concentrating on that. Her job and charities seem to have taken over.
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Old 05-19-2017, 10:18 PM
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Well, it's not easy for some people to jump in another relationship after dating somebody for so long. Also, dating have to be in your mind. I'm not sure Beatrice is concentrating on that. Her job and charities seem to have taken over.

There is no way her "job and charities" have monopolized this young woman's time to the point where it has been impossible for her to meet a nice man.

I read that she even went to San Francisco, home of all those rich computer men who wear sneakers to work. She went to the big thing at the Frick Museum earlier this year, bad royal radar there. She won't meet a hetero single man at that kind of party.

She has to aim older now, the businessmen who made the money but want the prestige.

She also has a monkey on her back -- her mother. A son-in-law of Fergie will pay.

Ask Dave.
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Old 05-19-2017, 10:22 PM
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She also has a monkey on her back -- her mother. A son-in-law of Fergie will pay.

Ask Dave.
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Isn't she friends with Prince Amedeo of Belgium and some of the other European royals? Surely they could introduce her to someone nice.
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Old 05-19-2017, 11:04 PM
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Isn't she friends with Prince Amedeo of Belgium and some of the other European royals? Surely they could introduce her to someone nice.

That would be wonderful. How many people here, on this forum, would like to see Princess Beatrice married to a nice aristocratic man who has the stones to shut down her horrible mother and send her packing.
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Old 05-19-2017, 11:21 PM
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I think sometimes people start dating and after a long period of time, it just seems like that's what they're supposed to be doing and they become like a pair of comfortable old shoes. The shoes look kind of worn out but they feel like they belong on your feet and become your favorite shoes to be comfortable in. The dating becomes routine. The relationship is there and its a safe one and and lets face it, you know each other well enough that you don't really have to work at that relationship too much anymore. Expectations of marriage may be there but why change something that works so well the way it is?

I think the relationship between Beatrice and Dave most like got old and they were going through the motions of being together without the relationship going to a deeper level that they both wanted to commit to marriage. They both realized this and called it quits. Perhaps they're still good friends even. They just realized that a marriage partnership for the two of them wasn't in the cards.

With the door on that relationship slammed shut by mutual decision, they're both free to find and explore what they're really looking for. If Dave has found that, I can believe Beatrice being happy for him and wishing him well. He'd do the same perhaps for her if she had found what she was looking for first too I'd hope.

Beatrice and Dave's relationship wasn't a waste. I'm sure they have many happy memories together but it was one of those relationships where they both didn't grow together towards marriage and family. This happens alot in couples even after they've been married a long time. You grow together or you grow apart.
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