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Old 07-23-2010, 09:58 PM
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I've always thought that the Saudi family is the richest of the royals... I forgot about the royals of Brunei & Thailand
I just checked out the Forbes Richest Royals List. The King of Thailand is the richest. Then are the Saudi royals, Brunei royals, and lastly the European monarchs.

The monarchs in Europe aren't the richest in the world. I thought that I was correct.
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Old 07-24-2010, 01:05 PM
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Id have thought the Sultan of Brunei was wealthier than the King of Thailand
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I think it swtiches between the two.
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Old 07-24-2010, 04:49 PM
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King of Thailand is the richest
Wedmonds is correct
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Old 07-24-2010, 07:42 PM
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id heard that but cant belive based on what little I know
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Old 07-26-2010, 03:13 AM
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Believe it.
The King of Thailand through the Crown Property Bureau owns swathes of Bangkok real estate (CPB Property division) and has controlling stakes in some Thai blue-chip companies (CPB Equity division). The Thai Royal Family is self-funding.
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Old 07-28-2010, 06:45 AM
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I didn't know the Dutch RF is the owner of Shell.
Me neither..
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Old 07-28-2010, 08:18 AM
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I'm not sure of it, but it seems to me that Forbes has also a list of the richest royals.
Among the European royals, the richest are indeed Liechtenstein (about 3.2 billion Euros), Monaco and Lucxembourg.
I don't think Luxembourg even made the list.
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Old 07-29-2010, 02:25 PM
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Don't forget the Royal Family of Dubai! They're filthy rich too - right behind the Saudi royals, I think.
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Old 08-04-2010, 07:40 AM
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the information is old ,i think the royal members'salary has raised
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Old 08-04-2010, 08:23 AM
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the information is old ,i think the royal members'salary has raised
The article you quoted was posted 6 years ago, it will be a bit old.
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Old 08-17-2010, 12:25 PM
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The article you quoted was posted 6 years ago, it will be a bit old.
I thought it could be interesting to update this information and post how much money the different royal houses receive from the State, which are the uses of this money and compare it to the country budget.
Here is the information of the Spanish Royal Household, if anyone has information on any other house, I would be very interested!

The highlighted text is copy/paste from the Royal Household of the King of Spain webpage (http://www.casareal.es/laCasa/laCasa-iden-idweb.html)

"Allocation Household of H.M. the King (thousands of €) in 2010 (it was the same in 2009, I heard somewhere they have asked that the parliament reduce it for 2011, but I could be wrong) 8896.92 (that is, 8.896 millions)"

"According to the Constitution, H.M. the King may freely determine the distribution of this sum, intended to fund the staff and functioning costs directly payable by the Household of H.M. the King, as well the maintenance of the Royal Family. By means of this annual sum, the Household of H.M. the King responds to its most direct financial obligations that are not the responsibility of other State bodies. Such obligations include: (1) salaries, contributions and social provisions for executive management, management and non-career personnel for which the Royal Household is responsible; day to day operative costs, such as office materials; certain supplies; protocol and representation expenses (e.g., luncheons, dinners and receptions); transport and board and accommodation expenses; the acquisition of miscellaneous materials for the functioning of different offices within the Royal Household, etc. "
(1)Expenses pertaining to Official Trips and Visits are covered by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Cooperation.

In the same way, the Household of H.M. the King is no exception from other Constitutional bodies and Ministries in that its security expenses are met by the Interior Ministry, while those concerning official vehicles and their drivers correspond to the State Transport Service, funded by the Ministry of Economy and Finance. The Zarzuela Palace and other Royal Sites are the property of the State. Their maintenance and upkeep correspond, by law, to the autonomous body Patrimonio Nacional (National Heritage).

In addition, the King and Queen, the Prince and Princess of Asturias, the Infantas and their spouses, are obliged to pay all due taxes, for which purpose they annually present income tax returns and meet their fiscal obligations"

So basically the King recieves 8.9 millions of € destined to pay their staff, official receptions, dinners, transport and board(if it isn't a foreign official trip) and he distributes the money as he likes between family members.
The security, official cars and official foreign trips are paid between different ministries. The palaces belong to the State, and is responsable for their maintenance.

In 2010, the national budget for non-financial expenses(which includes the State, Social Security, public organizations, governmental agencies etc) was 330,471.13 millions of euros. (This budget for non-financial expenses is an 85.5% of the total budget.)
Budget information: http://www.lavanguardia.es/economia/noticias/20090929/53794121114/salgado-admite-que-la-amplia-clase-media-soportara-una-subida-de-impuestos-que-no-sera-temporal-esta.html

In conlusion, in 2010 the royal household money was roughly 19 cents of euro per spaniard (8.896 millions/spanish population) and a 0.003% of the budget for non financial expenses. Nevertheless, some of their expenses(such as security and foreign official visits) are not paid with this money.
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I found an article in Radio Netherlands Worldwide:

"The Netherlands' royal family is one of the costliest in Europe, according to Belgian political scientist Herman Matthijs, who calculated that the Orange family costs the Dutch state 39.6 million euros per year. Only the British royals require more: the UK spends 46.6 million euros on Queen Elizabeth II and her family.

Mr Matthijs, quoted in Belgian daily De Morgen, said that he did not include extraneous costs like security, state visits and maintenance of palaces. If he had, the Dutch royal family would require more than 100 million euros a year.
Other European countries with a hereditary head of state pay less. Spain, Sweden, Denmark, Belgium and Norway are spending between 8.8 and 28 million annually. The cheapest monarch is found in Luxembourg: Grand Duke Henry and his family are budgeted at 8.7 million euros per year"

Cost of Dutch royals among highest | Radio Netherlands Worldwide

So the Dutchs don't pay for security, state visits and maintenance of palaces, like the Spanish family. Does anyone one what things each family pay with the money the state provides for them and which are paid by other goverment bodies?
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I didn't know the Dutch RF is the owner of Shell.
Wikipedia reports 200 million dollars as the net worth of this House; is it possible that this datum is incorrect? I ask because some time ago I read somewhere (but I can't recall where exactly) that the wealth of the Dutch RF is about 4.5 billion dollars; can someone help me to clarify?
The Dutch RF are just stockholders of Shell. They don't own the whole company. I don't think they even have majority shares.
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Boy? I find that very condessending.

Did Belgium seriously consider abolishing the royal family? I remember reading sometime back that one of the Royal Princes was involved in a financial scandal of some kind. Who in the Belgian royal family is funded by taxpayers? Thanks
Yes and no, things got a little exciting in 1990 when the king Baodouin I refused to sign a bill legalising abortion...something about being catholic. The solution? Give the king the heave-ho for a couple of hours, temporarily become a republic, promulgate bill, reinstate king and job’s oxo. Abolition probably wasn't on the cards, but I'd love to get the number of the lawyers who fixed this whole wheeze up!
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Old 09-29-2010, 11:29 AM
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I don't think Belgium was a republic for the brief span of Baodouin's hiatus. If I understand correctly, Baodouin asked the government to invoke the constitutional provisions related to the incapacity of the king in which case the government as a whole acts as head of state. So each minisiter signed the abortion bill (as a collective head of state). The next day he was declared competent again.
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Question: If you compare the assets controlled by each monarchy ie, the palaces, the crown jewels, the land, the art collection etc, which family would be worth the most?
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Question: If you compare the assets controlled by each monarchy ie, the palaces, the crown jewels, the land, the art collection etc, which family would be worth the most?
That's very very hard to tell because the personal wealth of each royal I don't think has ever been really announced. But on the scale of things I could imagine it being the British.
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Old 10-07-2010, 11:59 PM
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Question: If you compare the assets controlled by each monarchy ie, the palaces, the crown jewels, the land, the art collection etc, which family would be worth the most?
the Saudi royal family is the wealthiest in the world if you add up all their assets
Aramco the state owned oil company they own is worth 781 billion dollars its the largest privately owned company in the world plus all their other assets combined with Aramco is most likely close to a trillion dollars
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when the royals will announce the new financial report.
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