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Old 01-22-2011, 07:00 PM
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What happens though if the future Head of State isn't capable of completing studies at a university etc e.g. Harry's grades wouldn't have allowed him to go to university (and strings were pulled to get Charles into Cambridge as he didn't have the grades for there, nor did Edward)?


Say William and Kate's heir has Diana's brains - i.e. not capable of getting the grades for uni (Diana remember didn't pass any O levels or A levels and thus wouldn't have been able to go to uni.
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Old 01-22-2011, 08:20 PM
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I don't think a university education is a must for a future King or Queen, I think being able to interact with a wide variety of people would be more important. Not saying that they shouldn't take advantage of very opportunity afforded them, but seriously, aren't most just figure heads who can't express any opinion about anything. To me it would be so frustrating to be highly intelligent& educated when no one really wants to hear it from you, just want to shake your hand, cut a ribbon& waive. I am not saying that the royals don't do a lot of good, I just think that learning from parents & grandparents would be the best education. If am wrong in my assumption of most royal duties, please let me know. Until this forum, my only royal exposure was the English royal family& I don't mean to offend anyone
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Old 05-20-2011, 08:57 PM
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Royals Graduating

So I graduated from university yesterday morning, and it had me thinking...are there any photos of royals at their high school or college graduations? I know I saw some video footage of William and Kate at their St. Andrew's ceremony around the time of the wedding, and I have also seen a few of the Swedish royals in their graduation sailor hats. Does anyone have any other pictures?
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Old 06-10-2011, 12:47 AM
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Royal Education, Past, Present and Future

Wht are the most important elements of a royal education?
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Old 07-09-2011, 10:19 PM
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Royals going to school

I am trying to find photos of our favourite royals going to school when they were young.

does anyone have photos or seen any?
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Old 07-09-2011, 10:38 PM
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Here's Wills going to nursery school for the first time. I love his facial expression. So serious.
http://o.aolcdn.com/photo-hub/news_g...936321951.JPEG

Will and Harry going to an elementary school (forgot the name of the said school).
http://www.accesshollywood.com/conte...-with-his-.jpg

First day at Eton College with his parents and Harry.
Prince william going to school image by royalroundup on Photobucket
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Old 07-10-2011, 01:01 AM
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What about Marta Lousie and CP Haakon of Norway??
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Old 09-02-2011, 05:34 PM
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I wonder why Elizabeth II never went to collage.She was expected to be queen from an early age and,maybe some people thought it was a good idea for her to go.
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Old 09-02-2011, 05:46 PM
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A little incident called WWII might have had some influence. Off hand I can't think of any monarch of monarch in training that was either had a college degree or attending college.
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Old 09-02-2011, 05:52 PM
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Thank you for the reason.I forgot about that!
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Old 09-02-2011, 06:43 PM
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A little incident called WWII might have had some influence. Off hand I can't think of any monarch of monarch in training that was either had a college degree or attending college.

Actually King Frederik IX of Denmark attended university during WWI and Prince Rainier III of Monaco went to university in France during WWII. So I don't think the war was the only reason, could be it just wasn't expected of a princess...
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Old 09-06-2011, 05:30 PM
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I wonder why Elizabeth II never went to college.She was expected to be queen from an early age and, maybe some people thought it was a good idea for her to go.



Other members have, quite rightly, mentioned the 2WW and the effect that this had on The Queen's education [ditto Princess Margaret]. But as always, we have to put things in context. Extraordinary as it might sound to us in the 21st Century, until the late 1950's the 'classic' education for an upper class /aristocratic young lady was very often provided at home with a governess. Some of these ladies were effective educators, others were not so good and some were very poor teachers indeed. Subjects studied tended to be English, History, Art, Geography, French and sometimes German [languages were often taught well, particularly if the governess was French or German] and arithmetic [not mathematics!!]. 'Science' was often limited to what we might call 'nature study'. Music was a necessary 'accomplishment' and instruction was sometimes provided by a visiting 'music master'. Visits to dance classes when young provided the young gel with necessary social skills.

Some young ladies were in fact sent to boarding schools instead of remaining at home for their education. Many of these schools were academically undemanding...and the girls tended to leave at 15 or 16 years old without taking any examinations.

When 15 or 16 years old, finishing school was the order of the day. This usually involved spending a year or so abroad in Switzerland or France[Paris]. The 'typical' finishing school curriculum usually consisted of French, [often the entire school curriculum was taught through the medium of French] Flower Arranging, Etiquette, Art Appreciation, cookery [sometimes]. During the winter term, there students used to ski every day. It wasn't usually academically challenging, but at least many young ladies of a certain class ended up pretty well fluent in French.

The most exclusive Finishing School in Paris was Madamoiselle Anita's. Princess Alexandra went there for nearly a year.

Finishing schools also existed in England and were the choice of nervous parents who feared that there were 'dangers' [further explanation probably not necessary!!!] in exposing their daughters to the charms of the continent! These often included typing in the curriculum [very useful for voluntary charity work later in life] as well as flower arranging and cookery. One such [famous] school was London's 'Monkey Club'. I do not think that there are any finishing schools left in the UK now, but they certainly existed up to the early 1980's and included Winkfield Place, [near Ascot] Evendine Court [Worcestershire], Eggleston Hall [County Durham] Paddock Wood [Kent]. Some of the smarter private London Secretarial Colleges had elements of finishing schools: Lucie Clayton, Queen's Secretarial College [Where Fergie went, and also Margaret Rhodes, niece of the Queen Mother.

The Queen's education was therefore quite typical for gels of her class at that time.

Even Lady Diana Spencer - although she was sent away to boarding school at an early age - was never put under any academic pressure whatsoever and indeed failed her O Levels twice. [ stage 1 of university qualification exams basically]. This was during the 1970's - hardly Victorian times!

What I have described above is fairly typical, but there are exceptions to every rule. A few girls, often with strong personalities, good brains and enlightened parents, did rather better: there were several very academic boarding schools in England, where some very aristocratic girls took their education seriously and even qualified for university.

I hope this helps understand why the Queen was not as much as an exception as she might at first appear.

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Old 09-06-2011, 05:42 PM
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I remember reading in Lacey's book, that Princess Elizabeth had lessons in the Constitution (because she was the next in line after her father), and that she was a very diligent student. The book used for her lessons is displayed at Eton College, with all her annotations in the margins. I thought that was a very interesting bit of information.
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Old 09-06-2011, 09:55 PM
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I wonder why Elizabeth II never went to collage.She was expected to be queen from an early age and,maybe some people thought it was a good idea for her to go.
I remember reading a biography of either the Queen or the Queen Mother. The author said that the Queen Mother was primarily responsible for the educational path of the Queen and Princess Margaret. The Queen Mother had been educated at home and she felt that this all the princesses needed. The Prime Minister was the one who insisted that the Queen be given instruction on the constitution. I really wish I could remember the name of the book and the author.
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Old 09-06-2011, 09:57 PM
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Very interesting Diarist. In the 1950's most women regardless of their social standing generally didn't go to college or if they did it was for a traditonal career (nursing, teaching) or a finishing school to help them polish their social skills. It was generally accepted that they would marry young and have children. Most women, royal or non-royal more or less took this path. Of course as you said Diarist there were a few exceptions to this. I imagine for those women who wanted to go to college and couldn't for whatever reason, living in this era would have been very frustrating for them.

Queen Elizabeth was one of the few female heirs to the throne so her situation was different than most royal women of that time period. One would expect any heir to the throne to be educated (one doesn't have to go to college or graduate from college to be educated). I've known people who didn't go to college who were more educated than people who did.

The key is the teacher or teachers that the persons has. If you have good teachers, then you are more like to be a well educated person. Queen Elizabeth was heir to the throne and good teachers were available to her as they would be to any heir to the throne. I would consider Queen Elizabeth to be a well educated person.
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Old 09-12-2011, 04:21 AM
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Does anyone know how Princess Margaret did in school?Was she a good student?
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Old 09-12-2011, 12:03 PM
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Princess Margaret was taught entirely at home by governesses. She was reputedly excellent at music [and indeed most biographies mention she was an accomplished piano player] and reasonably good at French. Her education ceased when she was 17. She did not study Consitutional Law or History in the same was as her sister Elizabeth did - the latter was taught by a Master from Eton. Anecdotally, I have heard that Margaret frequently expressed regret that her education had been limited, and she also reputedly said that she was sad that she did not go to university.
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Old 09-14-2011, 03:08 AM
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Thank you for that info.It's sad that she did'nt go to college.I wonder what she would study.
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I believe the Countess of St Andrews lectures at Cambridge.
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The Emperor of Japan has published his research into Ichthyology, the study of certain types of fish.

Prince Philippe of Belgium was criticised for spending too much time studying at some point, too.

I know that wasn't exactly what you asked for, just a small contribution.
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