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Old 02-06-2016, 01:55 AM
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Louis VII divorced his first 2 wives (first being Eleanor of Aquitane) ...

His son Philip II had an interesting second marriage. After his first wife died he married Ingeborg of Denmark but he suddenly decided on their wedding night he didn't want to be married. He tried claiming they hadn't consummated but Ingeborg staunchly argued they had and the church supported her. He also tried to claim they were cousins, which was disproven. It took years for him to get an annulment. ..
Actually I don't think Philip II ever managed to have his marriage to Ingeborg of Denmark annulled. Despite keeping her locked away and Philip II's repeated attempts to annul the marriage and the fact that he 'married' Agnes of Merania in 1196, and had children by Agnes, the Pope refused to annul Phillip II's marriage to Ingeborg, and ultimately forced Philip II to put aside Agnes and recognize Ingeborg as his wife in 1200, but Philip II reneged. Agnes died in 1201, and finally in 1213, Philip II recognized Ingeborg as his wife.
The fascinating part of the whole saga was that Agnes was not Philip's first choice to replace Ingeborg - his bride was supposed to be Margaret of Geneva, but on her way to her wedding to Philip II in 1195, Thomas of Savoy kidnapped her claiming Philip wasn't free to marry as he was still married to Ingeborg.
Thomas of Savoy married Margaret of Geneva himself and they had 14 children. Their daughter Beatrice of Savoy was the mother of 4 Queens, including Queen Margaret of France (wife of Louis IX) and Queen Eleanor of England (wife of Henry III.)
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Louis VII divorced his first 2 wives (first being Eleanor of Aquitane)
Louis VII didn't divorce his second wife Constance of Castile, as she died giving birth to her second daughter Alys. The king waited just five weeks before getting remarried.
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Louis XI may have only divorced/annuelled one but his annulment could rival any modern scandal. Failing on other grounds, he claimed his wife was hideously malformed and was unable to bed her. And further that she performed witch craft. She had witnesses to prove he was wrong, but the Pope had more to gain from supporting the king and granted it. His wife would later be canonized.
Louis XI was the father of Joan of Valois, who later became canonized, her husband was Louis XII, whose third wife was Mary Tudor, sister of Henry VIII.

Two other marriages that ended in divorce in the French royal history are the ill-fated marriage between Henry (IV) of Navarre and Margaret of Valois, the daughter of Catherine de Medici, and sister to three French kings. Their wedding festivities are most known for the St Bartholomew's Days Massacre.

The second marriage ending in a divorce was between Napoleon Bonaparte and his first wife Joséphine de Beauharnais, his second marriage with Marie Louise of Austria ended with separation, not a divorce.
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Since Henri IV became a Catholic I'd assume his marriage to Marguerite de Valois was annulled, not ended in divorce.
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Old 01-21-2017, 07:48 AM
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"The map of royal divorces in Europe:only Belgium is saved" so far at least!!

https://translate.googleusercontent....DcNkQzsORPLZbg
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"The map of royal divorces in Europe:only Belgium is saved" so far at least!!

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I find it strange that they include Sweden here. Not because I think that divorces in the royal family couldn't happen here, but there hasn't been any, at least not in the current royal family. They bring up the case of princess Birgitta (the king's sister). She and her husband never divorced. They lived separate lives the last years until his death a year ago, but were never formally divorced and - as I understand it - were on friendly and speaking terms with eachother.
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"The map of royal divorces in Europe:only Belgium is saved" so far at least!!

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That is not correct. Princess Louise of Belgium divorced from Prince Philipp von Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha, Duke of Kohary, after affairs with the Dutch nobleman Daniel Baron d’Ablaing van Giessenburg, then the Austrian-Hungarian nobleman Nikolaus Baron Döry de Jobahaza, before she finally felt for the Croatian nobleman Geza Count von Mattachich-Keglevich.

It became THE scandal of the fin-de-siècle and the Princess was even placed in jail (!) and a psychiatric hospital. Anyway, Princess Louise indeed divorced Prince Philipp von Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha, Duke of Kohary, with disastrous consequences. Her ex-husband, humiliated before the eye of tout Almanach de Gotha swore revenge and stalked his ex-spouse and her new husband with bailiffs. In 1924 Princess Louise, daughter of one of the wealthiest men on Earth ever, once sister to an Empress of Austria, once sister to a Princess Bonaparte, once niece to an Empress of Mexico, died in unimagineable bitter, bitter poverty in Wiesbaden, Germany.
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There has also be a divorce in the belgian RF. Princess Marie-Christine the half-sister of Kings Baudouin I. and Albert II. was divorced from her first husband after a short marriage.
But in the Princely Family of Liechtenstein there has been no divorce in the close Family when looking at the descendants of the late Fürst Franz Josef and Fürstin Gina). There have been divorces in some of the other many branches of the Family however.
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Duc , I read a book about her life , She had bad and stupid provocation behaviours .
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Old 01-21-2017, 08:50 AM
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In the five Catholic Royal Families they are divorces.
Infanta Elena and nearly all the Children of Infanta Pilar divorced.
Liechtenstein : Prince Alexander and Princess Maria Pia of Savoie
The highlight is Monaco on several Generations :
Princess Charlotte,
Princess Antoinette 2x
Princess Caroline , Princess Stepanie 2x.
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Also here the question pops up: what is the Royal House and what is not? Can you file the divorce of Princess Margarita de Bourbon de Parme (granddaughter of Queen Juliana of the Netherlands) from Mr Edwin de Roy van Zuydewijn under "Dutch monarchy"? For me that is a divorce in the House of Bourbon-Parma.

So there were three divorces in the Dutch Royal House in total:

1849
HRH Princess Marianne of the Netherlands - HRH Prince Albrecht of Prussia

1981
HRH Princess Irene of the Netherlands - HRH Prince Carlos Hugo de Bourbon de Parme

1996
HRH Princess Christina of the Netherlands - Mr Jorge Pérez de Guillermo
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You are always coming back with your "Oranje Boven".
I mentionned the five ROMAN CATHOLIC Monarchies.
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In the five Catholic Royal Families they are divorces.
Infanta Elena and nearly all the Children of Infanta Pilar divorced.
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I do not count the children of the Infanta Doña Pilar as members of the Spanish royal family but as members of the family Gómez-Acebo. Three of the five childen of the Infanta Doña Pilar are divorced indeed.

Doña Letizia Ortiz herself was divorced too.
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Old 01-21-2017, 09:18 AM
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You are always coming back with your "Oranje Boven".
I mentionned the five ROMAN CATHOLIC Monarchies.
Excuse me, from Queen Juliana's descendants there are 21 Catholics. And there are no "Roman-Catholic monarchies". As far as I know Spain, Luxembourg, Belgium and Monaco are strictly secular states without any state church, unlike the United Kingdom or -until recently- Scandinavian monarchies.
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