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Old 07-02-2004, 07:20 AM
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Princess Anne of Denmark...Mary in time ^___^

And of course Princess Diana
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Old 07-03-2004, 11:45 AM
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I don't know if the European newspaper have the horiid habit like they have in Britian of counting engagements and then declaring one lucky royal the hardest working and the other's lazy louts.
I really disaggree with this idea. simply because it doesn't do justice to waht royals really do. 90% of what they do is behind the scenes and not in front of the camera and because of this they don't get thanked for thier hard work. It's like saying ministers onlyu work on Sunday. My point been: The number of engagements doesn't meaning the hardest working.

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Old 07-03-2004, 12:16 PM
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the most hard working in our country is the king mohamed VI and his brother prince moulay rachid but the most hard working is the king due to his hard responsabilities and he must stay eye awake with everything because he is the first responsible about anything happen in the country he work like a horse .
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Old 12-26-2004, 10:07 PM
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Most active royals

I have noticed that the most active royals (who are not CPs) are the two spanish infantas. I seem to see pictures of them more often than, for example, Laurent of Belgium, or Caroline of Monaco, etc. Is it only my imagination?
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Other than Crown Princes I would say Princess Anne of Great Britain is quite active, although her activities are much less publicized.

Princess Alexandra of Denmark also usually has a pretty rigorous schedule.

Princess Astrid of Belgium doesn't do as much but I do find her to be a constant at most galas hosted in Belgium.

I think it's a matter of what publications you look at and how much media attention certain royals get. Infantas Elena and Cristina likely get a bit more attention because of the volume of Spanish-language magazines but I don't think they are as well known as Princess Anne on a broader scale, yet the numerous public duties and patronages Princess Anne is a part of get a lot less attention.
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Old 12-27-2004, 10:41 AM
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CP Mary of Denmark gets alot of coverage so i guess she is somewhat 'active'...
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CP Mary of Denmark gets alot of coverage so i guess she is somewhat 'active'...
More coverage doesn't necessarily equate with being active.

Mary could make one appearance in two weeks but because she is a new royal, young and attractive the images from that one royal duty could be carried for several days.

As I mentioned in my previous post, some royals naturally get a lot of coverage, such as new the Crown Princesses -- which was what the original query was diverting from, asking other than CPs who else was active with their royal duties.

Princess Anne is a very active royal but gets significantly less coverage than Mary, Letizia, Maxima, Mette-Marit, Mathilde, etc.
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Old 12-27-2004, 11:28 AM
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More coverage doesn't necessarily equate with being active.


Princess Anne is a very active royal but gets significantly less coverage than Mary, Letizia, Maxima, Mette-Marit, Mathilde, etc.
Alexandria,

You are correct about the Princess Royal (Anne) being one of the most active, especially for Save the Children. However, she doesn't get nearly the same type of coverage that the Crown Princesses. I remember when Diana was in the picture there was a commentary that she did more charity work than the Princess of Wales but didn't get any publicity.

According to The Royalty Report, Princess Anne is patron of 220 organizations. In 1997 she carried out 447'official' engagements. in 1998 she carried out 679. Then in 1999 she carried out 1,138.(This number we now know is incorrect). Correct number is approximately 700 according to the BBC. She is definitely a hard working royal!
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Old 12-27-2004, 11:37 AM
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Princess Anne is generally acknowledged for being the most active Windsor even though the Queen is closely behind. . But I would say that of the crown princesses Maxima is probably the most active with Mathilde closely behind. Of princes, I would say Charles is the most active. Philippe and Willem-Alexander are also quite active. It´s really kind of hard to say because many royals do their work without the coverage as Alexandria has noted.
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Old 12-27-2004, 11:43 AM
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i have red somewhere that the king and queen of sweden attended 400 events last year
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She´s quite active for a woman of her age, one must say though.
Of her age?! You make it sound like Anne is a 90 year old woman! She is a woman of middle age and "at her age" many women around the world are still working at their jobs, and active, contributing citizens who nurture their families, their friends and their communities. And considering the lineage of robust and healthy women Anne comes from I would say that we can expect much more from Anne for the next several decades.

At her age! Sheesh!

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But I would say that of the crown princesses Maxima is probably the most active with Mathilde closely behind. Of princes, I would say Charles is the most active. Philippe and Willem-Alexander are also quite active. It´s really kind of hard to say because many royals do their work without the coverage as Alexandria has noted.
No mention of Letizia? I read somewhere where a number of the official engagements taken out by Felipe and Letizia since their wedding numbered in the several hundred. Pretty impressive that that was the end of May and I read this number in the fall sometime, so at least 5-6 months. I don't think any other princess can claim that they've carried out that many engagements in 6 months.

As for Maxima, as much as I adore her, there was a lot of grumbling earlier in the summer about how many holidays she and Willem took.
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Old 12-27-2004, 11:46 AM
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I knew this would happened. I meant the Queen. That´s why I took it out. I should have said for a person the Queen´s age. Yes, Letizia is quite active. I hope she will maintain this schedule later on. Maybe it was to overcome doubts. But I think she is quite serious about all of this work. I was covering my butt there in case she slows down a lot.
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'The non CP-category' - In this category, I would say that the Princess Royal, Queen Elizabeth, and King Carl XVI Gustaf and Queen Silvia come first. Right behind them I would put Princess Alexandra, and this particular fall also Princess Caroline.

'The CP-category' - Here I would definitely place the Prince and Princess of Asturias on first place, and then also the Prince of Wales, Crown Princess Victoria, Crown Prince Philippe and Crown Princess Mathilde.
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'The non CP-category' - In this category, I would say that the Princess Royal, Queen Elizabeth, and King Carl XVI Gustaf and Queen Silvia come first. Right behind them I would put Princess Alexandra, and this particular fall also Princess Caroline.
The Duke of Edinburgh would definitely need to be included up there with The Princess Royal and the Queen.
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Old 12-27-2004, 01:51 PM
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I did some counting on the site of the Belgian monarchy and in 2004...

...Mathilde performed 60 royal duties, went on humanitarian mission to Niger (8 days) and on economic mission to China (10 days) and Turkey (8 days). Don't forget she also has a family life and 2 small children.

Prince Filip had 79 royal duties in 2004. And economic missions to China, Algeria, Tunesia, Turkey.

The days Filip and Mathilde are not on a royal duty, they're at their office.

Princess Astrid had 44 royal duties. As chairwoman of the red cross she went on a working visit to South Africa. She also has 5 children. Her husband, Archduke Lorenz had 19 duties. He works full time as a banker.

Prince Laurent had 56 royal duties, his wife princess Claire had 19 royal duties, she works full time as a surveyer.
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Alexandria,

You are correct about the Princess Royal (Anne) being one of the most active, especially for Save the Children. However, she doesn't get nearly the same type of coverage that the Crown Princesses. I remember when Diana was in the picture there was a commentary that she did more charity work than the Princess of Wales but didn't get any publicity.

According to The Royalty Report, Princess Anne is patron of 220 organizations. In 1997 she carried out 447'official' engagements. in 1998 she carried out 679. Then in 199 she carried out 1,138. She is definitely a hard working royal!
I'm sorry but your information must be wrong. 1,138 royal duties in a year??? I gather she does not work in the weekends, so that makes more than 4 duties per day. That's absurd. If she does 261 duties per year (one for each working day) it will already be a lot. And I don't think she goes on visit somewhere every day.

Mind you, I do know Anne is very hardworking but IMO your figures are completely wrong and you're giving us a bit of a wrong image here...
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Old 12-27-2004, 02:31 PM
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In 1999 I printed the biographies of the British Family from the official site. Now they have been updated. Data are difficult to compare because of different criteria:

The Queen:
343 engagements in 1997 (UK only?)
478 in 2003 (UK + abroad)

The Duke of Edinburgh
156 in 1997 (UK + abroad, WITHOUT The Queen)
456 in 2003 (UK + abroad, BOTH with and without The Queen)

The Prince of Wales
290 in 1997 (UK + abroad)
604 in 2003 (UK + abroad)

The Princess Royal
445 in 1997 (UK + abroad)
2003 unknown

The Duke of York
1997 unknown
475 in 2003 (UK + abroad)

The Earl of Wessex
68 in 1998
2003 unknown
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I'm sorry but your information must be wrong. 1,138 royal duties in a year??? I gather she does not work in the weekends, so that makes more than 4 duties per day. That's absurd. If she does 261 duties per year (one for each working day) it will already be a lot. And I don't think she goes on visit somewhere every day.

Mind you, I do know Anne is very hardworking but IMO your figures are completely wrong and you're giving us a bit of a wrong image here...
I don't think Ennyllorac is wrong necessarily, and it's rather impolite to accuse someone of being wrong and giving a distorted image, especially if one doesn't have all the facts or doesn't see the broader picture.

Consider the following:

Firstly, many royals work on the weekends as well as evenings -- being a royal is not restricted to the hours of 9 to 5 solely. So, it is very possible that Queen Elizabeth II, Princess Anne and royals of other households do work on the weekends.

Secondly, in a day royals are known to have more than one agenda on their schedule. One day doesn't necessarily equate with only one duty. Royals are the patrons of numerous charities as well as being invited to many other special dedications, occasions, lunches and dinners, awards presentations, etc. And as some of these events only take an hour or two it would be perfectly reasonable to say attend a luncheon and then attend a late afternoon or early evening event as well.

Consider also when royals visit other nations: Because such visits take so much planning and years in advance, they cram as much into their 2 or 3 day visit as possible. When Felipe and Letizia visited South America earlier this summer this was very much the case. We saw pictures of them attending a breakfast with important poltical figures in the morning, a trip to a museum after that, followed by lunch with literary figures then to a dedication in the afternoon followed by a semi-formal/formal dinner in the evening. That in itself is 5 events in one day.

Thirdly, each royal household defines what constitutes a "royal duty" differently. And some royal calendars may list only some events but not all, while other royal calendars may list everything and anything. For example, in August some royal courts considered royals attending the Olympic games in Athens as being part of their royal duties, while others did not.

Also, some royals -- for example the Dutch royals -- are commonly known for showing up "spontaneously" for royal visits. While these events are certainly very well planned, they are not listed on the royal web site and not publicized as other events are.
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Old 12-27-2004, 06:25 PM
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I'm sorry but your information must be wrong. 1,138 royal duties in a year??? I gather she does not work in the weekends, so that makes more than 4 duties per day. That's absurd. If she does 261 duties per year (one for each working day) it will already be a lot. And I don't think she goes on visit somewhere every day.

Mind you, I do know Anne is very hardworking but IMO your figures are completely wrong and you're giving us a bit of a wrong image here...
My intention was never to distort. this was the information given on various sites. However, since you so kindly pointed out my mistake,
I searched the net again and found conflicting numbers. However, I came across the BBC and these were the numbers they gave.

1998 - 642
1999 - 700
2001 - 655

I apologize for the mistake. However, these numbers are still impressive.
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Also, some royals -- for example the Dutch royals -- are commonly known for showing up "spontaneously" for royal visits. While these events are certainly very well planned, they are not listed on the royal web site and not publicized as other events are.
This was probably why I gave Maxima and Willem Alexander too much credit. Maybe they do have less duties than the others. I just knew about these unplanned events or non-publicized ones and so I thought they had more duties than others. I guess not.
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