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Old 12-12-2003, 08:06 PM
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what about Countess of Wessex become godparents?

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Has anyone more info or resources for me??
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Originally posted by Helena@Dec 12th, 2003 - 2:34 pm
King Constantine II of Greece is a godfather to Prince Constantijn.
I think Constantijn was named for his godfather King Constantine, too, wasn't he?
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Old 12-13-2003, 06:38 PM
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They're having a discussion on this very subject at the European Royals Message Board.

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Old 12-13-2003, 06:40 PM
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well, it appears to be so, but the queen never said so. She only commented that she liked the name (which is not uncommon in dutch, one of our most famous scientists from the golden age was named constantijn huygens). But maybe he is named after the king & beatrix did not want to say it because it would cause trouble to the RF as King Constantine was far from popular in Europe in those days because of his alleged sympathies for the horrible 'colonel-regime' in Greece. And it might had caused some diplomatic incident between Greece and The Netherlands as well because the greeks just had disposed their king.
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Out of curiosity, are princes, princesses, Queens, et. al who have been bestowed such titles ever chosen as godparents? With the exception of Princess Diana and Prince Bernhard (husband of Queen Juliana), it seems that the royal godparents chosen are all of royal birth rather than those who have become royal through their marriage.

For example, King Harald, King Gustav, Queen Beatrix and Queen Margrethe II are the godparents of multiple royal offspring. But I don't see their spouses, Queen Sonja, Queen Silvia, the late Prince Claus and Prince Henrik respectively, named as the godparents of any royal offspring listed here.

In the future, could we see Mary, Letizia, Maxima, Mette-Marit, Prince William's wife and Crown Prince Victoria's husband, etc. be chosen as the godparents of any royal offspring?

Or are spouses who marry into royal families not chosen as godparents of royal offspring because they might divorce out of royal families (so to speak) as was the case with Diana, and the godparents might no longer be considered royal anymore?

Another example: With the birth of Catharina-Amalia, might Willem and Maxima choose Laurentien or Mabel, Marilene or Annette (wives of Willem's cousins Maurits and Bernhard, Jr.) as godmothers for the baby princess?
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Old 12-13-2003, 07:04 PM
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Prince Albert of Monaco: Prince Louis de Polignac and Queen Victoria-Eugenia of Spain

Princess Stephanie of Monaco: John Brendon Kelly Jr. (brother of Princess Grace) and Elisabeth de Massy (niece of Rainier)

Pablo Urdangarin y de Borbon: Prince Kubrat of Bulgaria and Princess Alexia of Greece

Princess Sofia of Bulgaria: Crown Prince Felipe of Spain

Prince Michael of Kent: President Franklin D. Roosevelt
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Old 12-13-2003, 07:26 PM
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Godparents of Queen Elizabeth II: King George V (paternal grandfather), Queen Mary (paternal grandmother), Princess Mary [Viscountess Lascelles] (aunt), The Duke of Connaught (great-great-uncle), The Earl of Strathmore and Kinghorne (maternal grandfather), Lady Elphinstone

Godparents of Zara Phillips: Colonel Andrew Parker-Bowles and Mrs. Jackie Stewart (wife of the racing driver)

Godparents of Prince Achileas-Andreas of Greece: Infanta Elena of Spain, Princess Theodora of Greece, Prince Kardam of Bulgaria, Princess Rosario of Bulgaria, and Prince Guillaume of Luxembourg

Godparents of Maria Fernandez y Gomez-Acebo: Olga Fernandez-Sastron (paternal aunt) and Crown Prince Felipe of Spain

Godparents of Hon. Charles Armstrong-Jones: Lady Bruce Dundas, Nigel Harvey, Nick Powell, Orlando Rock, Lucinda Cecil, and Rita Konig

Godparents of Prince Georg of Liechtenstein: Prince Constantin of Liechtenstein (his uncle)

Godparents of Elisabeth von Lattorff: Princess Angela of Liechtenstein (her aunt)

Godparents of Lady Alexandra Mountbatten: the Countess of Wessex

Godparents of Countess Leonie zu Waldburg-Zeil-Hohenems: Crown Prince Willem-Alexander of the Netherlands and Archduchess Maria Paloma of Austria

Godparents of Princess Marie-Caroline of Liechtenstein: Duchess Elisabeth of Bavaria (her aunt)

Godparents of Lady Ella Mountbatten: the Earl of Wessex

Godparents of Prince Joseph Wenzel of Liechtenstein: Prince Maximilian of Liechtenstein (his uncle)

Godparents of Duke Wilhelm of Wurttemburg: Prince Wilhelm zu Wied, Hereditary Count Erich zu Waldburg-Zeil und Trauchburg, Hereditary Princess Sophie of Liechtenstein

Godparents of Archduke Alexander of Austria (son of Princess Marie-Astrid of Luxembourg): Archduchess Constantza of Austria and Princess Margaretha of Liechtenstein

Godparents of Archduke Imre of Austria: Princess Margaretha of Liechtenstein

Godparents of Lady Helen Taylor: the late Princess Margaret, Sir Angus Ogilvy, Mrs. David Butler, Sir Philipp Hay,

Godparents of Princess Theodora of Greece: Queen Elizabeth II of Great Britain, King Michael of Romania, Crown Prince Alexander of Yugoslavia, and Queen Margrethe II of Denmark

Godparents of Prince Philippos of Greece: Prince Philip the Duke of Edinburgh, Diana the Princess of Wales
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Old 12-13-2003, 08:00 PM
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I forgot to add the godparents of Princess Maria Carolina of Bourbon-Two Sicilies: Prince Laurent of Belgium, Prince Pierre de Arenberg, Anna Maria Pisanu, and Ines Sastre

also the new godparents of Countess Ingrid von Pfeil und Klein-Ellguth:
Princess Nathalie zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Berleburg, Princess Alexia of Greece, Countess Bettina von Pfeil und Klein-Ellguth, Crown Prince Frederik of Denmark, Prince Geo zu Sayn-Wittgenstein-Hohenstein, and Mr. Martin Bleyer.
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Question- what's the point of choosing DIFFERENT godparents for your kiddies? Yes, it might have a diplomatic approach if you choose one friend for one and another friend for the other but...what's the point? I mean if you kick the bucket would you really want your kids to be separated? And if there are 4 godparents for your kids and they're in different countries, how do they decide who the kid's gonna' go to? What if there's a tug of war?
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Old 12-13-2003, 11:56 PM
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Godparents are meant to ensure the spiritual guidance of your child, not necessarily to take care of your child(ren) in case of an untimely passing by you or your spouse. That would be the role of a guardian. So, some of these royal offspring could have one set of godparents and another set of guardians. Or their godparents could also be their guardians.

For example, I have a goddaughter who also has an older sister. But I am also the legal guardian of both girls should anything (knock on wood) happen to their parents, even though I am not the godparent of the elder sister.

In the case of Konstantinos, the eldest son of Pavlos and Marie-Chantal, who has many godparents, if something were to happen to the couple, he and his siblings, who have other godparents altogether, might be placed in the care of Nikolaos, who is only the godfather of one (? - at any rate, he is not the godfather of all three children) or even the King and Queen.
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Old 12-14-2003, 08:35 AM
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Originally posted by samitude@Dec 13th, 2003 - 11:38 pm
They're having a discussion on this very subject at the European Royals Message Board.

Link: European Royals Message Board
I saw it, but it's a little bit chaos there, and most things I already have.
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Old 12-14-2003, 10:45 PM
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I know what godparents are. I'm still confounded. What's the point of giving 10 godparents to your kids? I.e. with Constantin-Alexios of Greece: Willie of Wales, Vickan of Sweden...etc. Is he ever really going to see those people? My stars...Wouldn't it be better to keep the godparentship to your close friends/family? How would they decide who the kids go to in the event of "kick the bucket-...ing"?
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Princess Ragnhild Alexandra of Norway was christened in Slottskapellet (the Palace Chapel) in Oslo on 27 June 1930. Her godparents were King Haakon VII of Norway; Queen Maud of Norway; Prince Carl of Sweden; Princess Ingeborg of Sweden; King Gustaf V of Sweden; Princess Victoria of the UK; Princess Margaretha of Denmark; and Prince Albert (later King George VI) of the UK, Duke of York.

Princess Astrid Maud Ingeborg of Norway was christened in Slottskapellet (the Palace Chapel) in Oslo on 31 March 1932. Her godparents were King Haakon VII of Norway; Queen Maud of Norway; Prince Carl of Sweden; Princess Ingeborg of Sweden; Princess (later Queen) Astrid of Belgium; Elizabeth, Princess (later Queen) of the UK, Duchess of York; Princess Thyra of Denmark; Prince Eugen of Sweden; and Prince George of the UK (later Duke of Kent).

Prince Harald of Norway, later King Harald V of Norway, was christened in Slottskapellet (the Palace Chapel) in Oslo on 31 March 1937. His godparents were King Haakon VII of Norway; Queen Maud of Norway; Prince Carl of Sweden; Princess Ingeborg of Sweden; King George VI of the UK; Queen Mary of the UK; King Léopold III of the Belgians; and Crown Princess (later Queen) Ingrid of Denmark

Princess Märtha Louise of Norway was christened in Slottskapellet (the Palace Chapel) in Oslo on 19 October 1971. Her godparents were Princess Margaretha of Denmark; King Olav V of Norway; Dagny Haraldsen (grandmother); Haakon Haraldsen (uncle); Princess Ragnhild of Norway; Count Flemming of Rosenborg; Nils Jørgen Astrup (friend of parents); and Ilmi Riddervold (friend of mother).

Prince (later Crown Prince) Haakon Magnus of Norway was christened in Slottskapellet (the Palace Chapel) in Oslo on 20 September 1973. His godparents were King Olav V of Norway; King Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden; Queen Margrethe II of Denmark; Princess Astrid of Norway; Princess Anne of the UK; and Prince Carl Bernadotte.

Children of Princesses Ragnhild Mrs Lorentzen and Astrid Mrs Ferner:

Haakon Lorentzen was christened in Asker kirke (Asker church) in Asker on 25 September 1954. His godparents were Princess Ingeborg of Sweden; King Haakon VII of Norway; Crown Prince Olav (later King Olav V) of Norway; Princess Astrid of Norway; Ragna Lorentzen (grandmother); and Erik F. Lorentzen (uncle).

Ingeborg Lorentzen, later Ingeborg Lorentzen Ribeiro, was christened in Slottskapellet (the Palace Chapel) in Oslo on 24 April 1957. Among her godparents was Princess Ingeborg of Sweden.

Ragnhild Alexandra Lorentzen was christened in Asker kirke (Asker church) in Asker on 2 September 1968. Her godparents were King Olav V of Norway; Princess Margaretha of Denmark; Luciano Machado (Brazilian friend of parents); ______ Machado (wife of Luciano Machado); Gunnar Sønsteby (friend of father); and Bitten Nordstrøm (friend of mother).

Cathrine Ferner, later Cathrine Ferner Johansen, was christened in Holmenkollen kapell (Holmenkollen chapel) in Oslo on 4 October 1962. Her godparents were King Olav V of Norway; Princess Ragnhild of Norway; Princess Margaretha of Denmark; Prince Georg of Denmark; Hereditary Grand Duchess (later Grand Duchess) Joséphine-Charlotte of Luxembourg; Ragnhild Ferner Jacobsen (grandmother); Finn Chr. Ferner (uncle); and Knut Ferner Robson.

Elisabeth Ferner, later Elisabeth Ferner Beckman, was christened in Holmenkollen kapell (Holmenkollen chapel) in Oslo on 30 May 1969. Among her godparents was Crown Princess (later Queen) Sonja of Norway, Countess Ruth of Rosenborg and Countess Madeleine Ullens de Schooten.

Gustaf Magnusson (son of Pss Cristina of Sweden) has Queen Sonja of Norway among his godparents
Sibylla Ambler (daughter of Pss Margaretha of Sweden) has Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands amng her godparents
Prince Hubertus of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen (son of Prince Johan Georg and Pss Birgitta of Sweden) has his uncle King Carl Gustaf among his godparents
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and soon we will know what godperents there will be for the new born princesses...
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I have asked the following question here: Crown Princess Victoria, News Part 7 in regards to Victoria of Sweden being chosen as one of Ingrid Alexandra of Norway's godparents.

Out of curiosity, what is the role royal godparents play in the lives of the children to whom they are godparents to? Aside from the baptism day of Konstantin Alexios, has Victoria spent more time with him? Or is she a godmother in name only? I have an 8-year-old goddaughter and see her at least once a week and we spend a lot of time together. But considering busy schedules and geography, how much time does Victoria get to spend with Konstantin Alexios?

More on Ingrid Alexandra of Norway's godparents and her baptism here: Ingrid Alexandra's Baptism
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On April 24, Lady Louise, daughter of the Early and Countess of Wessex will be baptized. For a list of her godparents, scroll down to the bottom of this thread: Lady Louise, News and Picture Thread 1
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For Catharina-Amalia:

Crown Princess Victoria, and hopefully other Royals!
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For Catharina-Amalia the godparenets is.....
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Who are QMII's, Queen Anne-Marie's, and Princess Benedikte's godparents?
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