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As posted by Joris on the Benelux Royals MB:
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From Dutchnews.nl:
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Fokke & Sukke have the awnser:
'Fokke & Sukke know why he hushed it up' 'Prime Minister den Uyl wasn't able to pronounce Northorp' ![]() (image can be used freely)
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Some reactions:
Green Left party wants the papers about Northorp to be made public (In Dutch here) The Chritian Democrats called it 'old news', which it is of course as we knew longer that Bernhard didn't only commit fraud with Lockheed but also with Northorp. For those who can read Dutch, here the Lockheed affair summarised int he Volkskrant. And read more about the Lockheed bribes here: Quote:
Read the entire wikipedia article here. --- And from Benrhards wikipedia page: Quote:
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Ofcourse those Green Left Little Red Ridinghoods love this,they revel in it.But to no avail.It really all is old news.Northrop is/was never ever fully proven,not to this day and it never will.Lockheed,oh man,that was a real shocker at the time.But hey,the Prince had carte blanche in doing business abroad by the subsequent dutch goverments since the early 1950's to get dutch industry etc back on the road,so all of 'm had butter on their heads.What happened wasn't/isn't unusual in the corporate world,it never was,it still isn't and it never will be.He should have just been more carefull due to his position.
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What was Northrop doing? For what product? The F/A-18?
I recall Northrop developed a "Cobra" design in the early 70s for The Netherlands. Northrop didn't sell it then, but the design became the F-17 that was built and flown, lost to the F-16 in the US Air Force/Norway/Denmark/Belgium/Netherlands fighter competition dubbed "sale of the century." The US Navy liked the F-17 and (McDonnell-Douglas) grew it into the F-18 "Hornet" that flies today (cheating Northrop out of royalties). ![]() I'm also trying to recall what the Lockheed business was about. The P-3 sub-hunter? C-130? Or did it go back to the F-104 in the 1960s? ![]()
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Samuel Johnson - April 7, 1775 Last edited by gogm; 02-26-2008 at 12:09 AM. Reason: Correct typo. |
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We were not interested in the sub-hunter nor the C-130,as for the first we had Orions and the second didn't come into service of the Royal Netherlands Airforce until the 90's. |
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Not realy, it is said that Juliana said she would abdicate if her husband would end up in prison, and it is generally thought (don't remember on what grounds) that Beatrix would have refused to succeed under such circumstances, out of loyalty to her parents for example. I think in theory such a thing would mean the next in line, Willem-Alexander, would have succeeded under a regency. I am not sure if it is possible in the Netherlands to renounce on behalf of your children.
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Henri would know I'm sure,so,get back here please. Elspeth dear,you've been watching too many B movies again.... ![]() Last edited by lucien; 02-27-2008 at 01:21 AM. |
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Much as we dearly love the Royals, or at least most of them, truth to tell this little scandal-a mere couple of million dollars-does show up one fatal flaw, inherent in the condition, and common elsewhere, the position goes to people's heads and they think they can get away with and do anything. Bernhard really was a prize idiot. And not only about the money.
As for She Who Must Be Obeyed watching B movies, perish the thought. |
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The P-3 was designated "Orion."
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Bingo!They have been in use until a few years ago.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge in the matter. Oh Thomas,about the B movie bit.She Who Must Be Obeyed mentioned Prince Claus and any possible involvement in this whole thing.Prince Claus!!Dear Claus.The very epithome of integrity,if there ever has been one.Totally,absolutely totally the opposite of his father-in-law. |
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Seriously, though - if a situation like that had happened in the UK, the tabloids would have immediately deduced something along the lines that Queen A is abdicating because her husband is caught up in a scandal - some upstart German who let his royalty-by-marriage status get the better of him - and now Queen A's daughter is doing likewise, and she also has some upstart German husband, so of course all this fine talk about loyalty to her parents is just so much window dressing; her husband was probably in it up to the neck with his father in law, or else why wouldn't his wife have just succeeded her mother and stayed on the throne? You must have some pretty boring tabloids over there...
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Hmm,I don't read tabloids,I detest them,absolutely really do.The UK at times seems to be ruled by that filth,not even worthy for use in a cats litterbox imnsho.All the words on how Trix would refuse to ascend the Throne had her mother abdicated over Bernhards actions,is speculation.No-one knows that for sure. Claus was most certainly never up to his neck in anything regarding his father-in-law,ever,they were as different as the sun and the moon.With Claus being the sun,the other the moon and its dark sides. If we had tabloids british style here,they would be sued to the very last penny,and rightfully so.Never understood what it is with these people that read,and worst,even believe what's printed in 'm.Freedom of press,alas,but abuse of that freedom to a british extent?Unthinkable here,and I think it's awful enough as it is here already with these creepy crawlies trying to make a living out of producing filth. |
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