Swedish Official Visit to Norway: June 10-11, 2005


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I have a question :)

There has been much news here in Sweden about the attack against Victoria and Mette Marit during the visit. What happend? Could someone update me?
I haven´t been online much this weekend so I dont get what really happend.

I read in todays edition of Aftonbladet that Victoria now travels in a special "safety car". Its very discret, bullet proof etc...
Is this just because of the attack?
 
There was an attack??? Thats very bad, well i will try and find some info on it
 
Yes, sorry. I should have explained that. When in doubt, abbreviate and then write out in full.
 
Sean.~ said:
Not always ;-) (IMO). She does look good here though, and has been dressing extremely well (Spanish wedding notwithstanding) for the last few years. I still remember her overly fussy/frumpy styl of the early 1990s`. Some of those pictures make me cringe! But she has transformed nicely.

Sean

Yes, okay. I agree with you then. I am more familiar with the more recent outfits. The Spanish Wedding dress did radiate though. Not her per se. But it radiated so much that one was apt to say "Do not look directly at the dress. Repeat. Do not..."
 
Yennie said:
I have a question :)

There has been much news here in Sweden about the attack against Victoria and Mette Marit during the visit. What happend? Could someone update me?
I haven´t been online much this weekend so I dont get what really happend.

I read in todays edition of Aftonbladet that Victoria now travels in a special "safety car". Its very discret, bullet proof etc...
Is this just because of the attack?

Mette-Marit and Victoria wasn't in the car when it happend. They had allready left the area.

A drunk man run against one of the cars and jelled that they should die all of them. He laid down on the front of the car and was quickly taken care of by the norwegian police. According to the norwegian police was the royalty never in any danger.
 
Some scans from the official visit


1 Mette-MArit at the recieving line
2 Greeting at the lunch. I especially like the one of Harald and Victoria
3 Haakon giving Victoria a kiss on her hand, I will have to say Felipe does it better, Haakon looks like he is about to crack with laugheter
4 Norways three born princesses in strong colours, I think Princess Astrids dress is one of her better
 

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Thank you

Thank you for all the lovely photographs. :) :cool: ;)
 
it has already been explained by somebody else. Victoria was BORN crown Princess, she is the Heir apparant, while Meete married a Crown Prince, she is crown princess by marriage. These are two different things. Meete will be Queen Consort while Victoria will be Queen.
 
GömdNatt said:
it has already been explained by somebody else. Victoria was BORN crown Princess, she is the Heir apparant, while Meete married a Crown Prince, she is crown princess by marriage. These are two different things. Meete will be Queen Consort while Victoria will be Queen.
Does that mean that when Victoria becomes queen, and Meete become queen consort, Meete will still have to curtsey to Victoria?
 
Lillia said:
Does that mean that when Victoria becomes queen, and Meete become queen consort, Meete will still have to curtsey to Victoria?
I've seen Queen Sonja curtsy to Queen Margrethe, so it's not unlikely.
 
GömdNatt said:
it has already been explained by somebody else. Victoria was BORN crown Princess, she is the Heir apparant, while Meete married a Crown Prince, she is crown princess by marriage. These are two different things. Meete will be Queen Consort while Victoria will be Queen.

So, does that mean that we should also expect the other Crown Princesses to curtsy to Victoria as well? I suppose that they may have done so already, but I can't recall seeing any photographs.

Does anyone know if Letizia curtsied to Victoria when she and Felipe were received by the RF in Sweden?
 
Isabel said:
So, does that mean that we should also expect the other Crown Princesses to curtsy to Victoria as well? I suppose that they may have done so already, but I can't recall seeing any photographs.

Does anyone know if Letizia curtsied to Victoria when she and Felipe were received by the RF in Sweden?

yes, from what I have learned, all of the crown princess' should curtsy to victoria...but that being said, Mette is the only one I have every seen do it.
I looked through Letizia and Felipe pre-wedding dinner and could only find her curtsy to Sofia and Margrethe. But, there weren't that many pictures of her greeting the royal guests anyways.

and this is a picture of how victoria and letizia greeted when letizia and felipe where in spain.

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=128132

if I am wrong, sorry. But this is what I have learned.
 
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H.M. KONGENS TALE VED GALLAMIDDAG PÅ SLOTTET 10. MAI 2005

The King speaks at Gala dinner at Palace.

Your Majesties, your royal highnesses. It is with great anticipation and happiness that we the Royal Family have put into place this visit

In the year, 1905, representatives of both Sweden and Norway put forth our parting in history. It is therefore a special visit for us all.

In Norway, we both mark and celebrate this year. We mark the hundred years since the dissolution of the union. We celebrate that it happened in a peaceful way and that the cooperation and lasting peace that we have had since was impressed in our connections.

Such a dissoluation can serve as an example for our time. The road from conflict and war to peace and prosperity goes through negotiation and compromise.

When we take a look back at the 91 years that went from 1814-1905, there is no doubt that the time of the union with Sweden was very much a time, for Norway, of wide growth and development.

There was a rise and growth in Norwegian shipping. There was big and important Swedish investment in Norwegian mining and industry. Sweden and Norway grew together through the work of immigrants, family ties, business activity and practical cooperation over the border. We retained, however, our own constitution, national assembly, government, army and public administration.

The union with Sweden was also a time for language and national consciousness formation. It was for us a cultural bloom in literature and in painting unlike any other time in our history.

The historians have noted that if conflict between Sweden in Norway in 1905 had not happened as it did, Sweden and Norway may not have been a part of the modernization of Europe. For too much time and cancer would have been used for political strife.

In the 100 years since 1905, we have wide community developmen and friendship. Sweden and Norway have become the world´s best neighbors! The glue in this uniquely close relationship is the deep and profound contact across Europe´s longest and oldest border.

The Swedish-Norwegian Cooperation is not limited to certain sectors. It is not hard to take for granted that on the long path all is completely understood. I for my part can not as a matter of fact see for myself something in the area where we will not have contact.

In the area of sports there are has been some variances in concerns over whomever is leading at the moment both in the winter and summer sports. There is great joy in being able to state that we have now clearly beaten Sweden in football! It has been many years since that last happened. It has not happened in Sweden since 1951.

Also internationally there is cooperation between our two good and changing countries. It is true but sometimes there is a little formal distinction in the connection but yet with very many common meeting places.

Of course, we can also have unlikely opinions and objectives. We will not sweep underneath the carpet that there can arose between us disagreements in the Nordic region but also regionally and globally. But disagreement is natural and all too familiar. It is as important that we all try to loosen the problems and not make them greater than they are. And all through dialogue.

Your majesties,

From a Norwegian stand, there are 3 main objectives for the marking of the Hundred Years.

We wish to see the period of the union with new and fresh eyes. What did the union mean for both nations? What happened in 1905? There is coming forward exciting and historic research that is trying to map out all of this.

Another interesting question is what importance had there been for both Sweden and Norway that the dissolution had a peaceful time. The peaceful dimension that had later impressed on all of us in the two political nations became for many ways inserted in Swedish and Norwegian foreign policy in 1905. There is a tradition in either nations that can be proud of and which both Sweden and Norway as in so many connections has carried on in development and strength.

The marking of the hundred years will besides contribute to bring forth a period of work on knowledge to both our two nations and to our two peoples. There is happening a newly creative and exciting time in both Sweden and Norway!

Even if the Swedish-Norwegian connection today is tight, there is still room for further development and communication. There are no doubts at least that there is cooperation between the regions, the counties and the municipalities. A good example is the cooperation between the Göteborg and Oslo regions which will be able to receive an important period of work in the years to come.

Your majesties,

Nothing is a better symbol of the close contact between us than the new bridge-link over Svinesund which we earlier today had opened together with joy. This new bridge is a picture of the outstretched hand between the two nations.

The marking of the hundred years makes it possible for us together to lift upwards the level of Swedish-Norwegian links to a whole new place. We place also the foundation for an even closer and tighter cooperation in the years to come.

I am entirely sure that the young generation of Swedes and Norwegians will maintain the task at hand in an excellent manner. Children are curious and are able to be creatively resourceful. Many have clear opinions on history and public enterprise. Their answers as to who King is are not particularly inspiring though. Unni Lindell has interviewed children between the ages of 5-10.

Tobias, 8 years old, said the following, "The Majesty is the father of the King. He has a smarter brain but he understands less yet."

Here is the the clearest potential for improvement for the next hundred years!

Let us together bring forth a "Skål" for Swedish-Norwegian links! For what it has meant in the past, for what it represents today and for what it possibly will do for us in the future.
 
Thank you for translating the speech. :) It's good that these visits take place to strengthen bonds between nations. Some visits between nations (whether royal, political or otherwise) often seem a little 'fake' (I can’t describe it any better – you know when countries hate each but the leaders shake hands and pretend their best buddies?) but I cannot see any of that on this occasion. There seems to be a genuine respect and friendship between the two countries and between all the members of both royal families, and that is always lovely to see.
 
Danielle said:
Thank you for translating the speech. :) It's good that these visits take place to strengthen bonds between nations. Some visits between nations (whether royal, political or otherwise) often seem a little 'fake' (I can’t describe it any better – you know when countries hate each but the leaders shake hands and pretend their best buddies?) but I cannot see any of that on this occasion. There seems to be a genuine respect and friendship between the two countries and between all the members of both royal families, and that is always lovely to see.

You´re welcome. Yes, and as King Harald noted they are the world´s best neighbors. Yes, the ties and friendship between these two nations are quite strong and very close even between the two royal families.
 
From Svenska Dagbladet:
 

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There will be a returnvisit 1-2 September by The King, Queen, Haakon and Mette-Marit.They will arrive with the Royal Yacht. Hopefully there will be a full gala on this occation also, and that Madeleine an Carl Philip will take part

4 pictures of Märtha Louise at the lunch, I wonder if her earrings are real..
And a picture from the exhibition from www.kongehuset.no terrible quality as usual
 

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Credit and copyright: Knudsens Fotosenter Oslo 2005

1-8 From the exhibition in the town hall
8-10 From the opening on the nobel center
 

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More, same source, last one from VG
 

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Thank you for these marvelous photos. They are very much in the moment and I love that.
 
was there no better photo a close up photos from the gala of victoria
 
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