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Old 06-14-2009, 04:43 AM
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Leopold Ier was the british candidate, as he was the Princess of Wales' widow,
and well known of the others courts. He married the King of the French 's daughter.
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Please, correct me if I'm wrong: he married in secret Arcadie, but soon divorced when he became King, in order to marry Princess Louise Marie d'Orleans.
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Arcadie Claret was the belgian mistress the King had until the end of is life.
MAfan you are speaking about a german lady and a morganatic wedding before he was King of the Belgians. This was an officially unknown and strange story ..
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Please, correct me if I'm wrong: he married in secret Arcadie, but soon divorced when he became King, in order to marry Princess Louise Marie d'Orleans.
He did marrie for the second time, before his third marriage to Princess Louise-Marie.
In 1829, a year before the start of the National Congress, he married (or rather, agreed to a marriage contract, with no religious ceremony involved) with Caroline Bauer, an actress, who was created Countess of Montgomery following the marriage.

it is assumed that the French side agreed to eventually support Leopold's candidacy during the Congress on condition that he would marry King Louis-Philippe's eldest daughter Princess Louis-Marie. His 'marriage' to Caroline Bauer wasn't even recognized by many.
By the time the Congress started, Leopold and Caroline were already leading separate lives, so he easily got a divorce (at the beginning of 1831) and a year later married Louise-Marie of France.
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Sorry, I have talked about the wrong woman... :)
But I'm not totally wrong about the story of the secret wedding, am I?
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Old 06-14-2009, 06:12 AM
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Leopold married her in a civil ceremony only btw, though some say even that one was invalid. It was actually the famous baron von Stockmar who arranged it all, and who arranged his cousin Caroline B. as a mistress (Leopold was in very low spirits after Charlotte died). Von Stockmar was the advisor of Leopold and much of the Coburg family, like Albert & Victoria.
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Thanks to Marsel77 and Marengo for the informations about what happened before Leopold Ist married Queen Louise-Marie.
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As Leopold was of the House of Saxe Coburg Gotha, does that make the Belgian Royal Family cousins of some description to the British Royal Family?
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Queen Victoria was a niece of King Leopold I, so there's a (strong) relationship between the two families; the present Queen Elizabeth II and the present King Albert II are third cousins.
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MaFan you are right and of course it was King Leopold I who arranged this wedding which was happy.
The name of the British RF is now Windsor, do you know since when ?
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The name of the British RF is now Windsor, do you know since when ?
yes. 17th july 1917.
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Why this date ? thanks
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Why this date ? thanks
on this date, a proclamation by king george v, replaced the royal house of Saxe- Coburg- Gotha with that of windsor, as there was anti german feeling in the uk at the time .
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On this date, King George V renounced to the german titles of his Family (Prince(ss) of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, Prince(ss) of Hannover), deprived the German members of the British Royal Family of their british titles (for examples, the Princes of Hannover; the titular King of Hannover, Ernst August II, was also Duke of Cumberland) and changed the surname of the Family from Saxe-Coburg-Gotha to Windsor.
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On this date, King George V deprived the German members of the British Royal Family of their british titles (for examples, the Princes of Hannover; the titular King of Hannover, Ernst August II, was also Duke of Cumberland)
well, not quite mafan. ernest august II, was deprived of his peerages and his title of prince of great britain and ireland, by order of the council on the 28th march 1919. i think you may be thinking of the battenburgs, the tecks and the schleswig princesses ? sorry my friend !!!
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Queen Victoria was a niece of King Leopold I, so there's a (strong) relationship between the two families; the present Queen Elizabeth II and the present King Albert II are third cousins.
yes you are correct, but you are forgetting that queen victoria married her first cousin prince albert of saxe-coburg -gotha (also nephew of king leopold). it was via prince albert, after the death of the queen in 1901, that the british royal house had become saxe....... until 1917.
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well, not quite mafan. ernest august II, was deprived of his peerages and his title of prince of great britain and ireland, by order of the council on the 28th march 1919. i think you may be thinking of the battenburgs, the tecks and the schleswig princesses ? sorry my friend !!!
yes, you're right, but the 1919 Order of Council followed the 1917 Titles Deprivaction Act
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In the book "Léopold avant Léopold I" by Gilbert Kirschen the author mentions some memoirs written by Caroline Bauer.
Are they the "Posthumous memoirs of Karoline Bauer,: From the German by Karoline Bauer?

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King Leopold II (1790-1865)

This thread is about King Leopold I The Belgians (Coburg 16 Dec 1790-Laeken 10 Dec 1865)

Parents: Duke Franz of Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld and King Leopold I of The Belgians and Princess Louise-Marie of France (Orleans)

First wife: Princess Charlotte Augusta of Wales

Second wife: Princess Louise-Marie of France (Orleans)

How and why did he and Princess Charlotte separate?
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How and why did he and Princess Charlotte separate?
Leopold and Charlotte did not separate. She died in childbirth in 1817 after giving birth to a stillborn son. Charlotte's death caused a succession crisis for the British royal family, and her unmarried uncles scrambled to marry and produce legitimate heirs. Leopold suggested his widowed sister as a wife for Charlotte's uncle the Duke of Kent, and they had one daughter, the future Queen Victoria. Leopold was devastated after Charlotte's death and did not remarry for many years. He finally did after becoming King of the Belgians, needing to secure heirs for his new kingdom and married Louise-Marie to build a French alliance. Leopold and Louise-Marie named their only daughter Charlotte after his first wife.
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