Abdication Rumours

[lucien]

Originally Posted by bartholomeus

I read in a book that the 'd'Oultremont' affair was a very serious one. His own son, King William II, refused to recognize and meet his 'stephmother'.

To my oppinion there is no real concrete evidence (if there is I would really like to know it) that King William was so dissapointed, he was a very succesfull banker and had lots of investments in the country.

Besides that, there is the incident were he took the place of the king (which his son was at that time) in the order of precedence of the baptism of the future King William III, his grandson, perhaps he was frustated he couldnt marry the woman he loved and had to abdicate because of her...(remember the Duke of Windsor) ??

That was the main cause King Willem I abdicated,he was disappointed in his sons attitude towards Henriette and his person as well as the public opinion.After his abdication at Het Loo Palace he felt free to do as he pleased and married the woman.The only one in his family who didn't critizese but supported him and Henriette was his daughter Princess Marianne,married to a adulterous Hohenzollern Princelein,with whom the couple lived for a while in Berlin untill their own place was ready.

Fortunately,HM Queen Beatrix isn't in this position,her children support her all the way.A little happiness back in her live is so well deserved,
it's touching.

[Carminha Stalker]

I sincerely hope that Queen Beatrix will reign for a few years. But I do agree that it isn´t wise that the heir should wait until he is practically an old man, like Prince Charles, for instance. I know every country follows different rules, but I think the Dutch way is very intelligent.

[TLLK]

Originally Posted by Carminha Stalker

I sincerely hope that Queen Beatrix will reign for a few years. But I do agree that it isn´t wise that the heir should wait until he is practically an old man, like Prince Charles, for instance. I know every country follows different rules, but I think the Dutch way is very intelligent.

I have to agree.

[TLLK]

When W-A assumes the throne, is he going to be known as King Willem, Willem-Alexander or Alexander?

[The Watcher]

Originally Posted by TLLK

When W-A assumes the throne, is he going to be known as King Willem, Willem-Alexander or Alexander?

King Willem IV, according himself in an interview a couple years ago.

Rumours btw in The Netherlands that the Queen would announce her abdication today (did not happen) or monday (birthday of the crownprince). We will see

[bartholomeus]

ok.. interesting theory!

will think about it..

[Sonjapearl]

Just my two cents...

I think Queen Beatrix should wait till the Orange's daughters are older, this way WA and Maxima could spend time with them. Once they are King and Queen, Willem and Maxima would not have the time to be with the 3 A's as they do now.

[Empress]

Beatrix is still going strong, so I doubt that we will see her abdicate any time in the very near future, otherwise we would be seeing Willem and Maxima taking on more and the Queen less. Beatrix seems like a very intelligent woman so I presume this is the way that she would go about it, rather than just abdicating and not giving any lead up.

[Marengo]

True, HM seems healthy enough but a scenario as in Britain is usually considered a nightmare scenario in the press.

It isn't impossible to combine raising children with being a ruling monarch, the Swedish king and queen seem to have succeeded in that, though others might have been less succesfull.

[bartholomeus]

well one has to remember that the little castle she lived in before she became Queen is now restored/rebuild with extra security gates, a new elevator etc.

If I had restored or rebuild my home.. I wouldnt want to wait too long before moving in... and she's definately not moving in there before her retirement... because its too small...

[Principessa Cano]

And will Maxima become queen? I believe she isn't officially a crown princess, like the other wives of the crown princes, but will she become queen automatically as the wife of a king?

[TLLK]

Originally Posted by Principessa Cano

And will Maxima become queen? I believe she isn't officially a crown princess, like the other wives of the crown princes, but will she become queen automatically as the wife of a king?

I've read that the Dutch constitution states that the consort of the monarch will be Prince or Princess of the Netherlands. Could one of our Dutch posters clarify if this is true?

[Empress]

Maxima holds the title Princess of the Netherlands in her own right, as well as Princess of Oranje Nassau (I believe) in her own right. As far as I am aware, Maxima will become Queen once her husband becomes king. I will have to find it, but we do have a thread on the subject.

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by Empress

Maxima holds the title Princess of the Netherlands in her own right, as well as Princess of Oranje Nassau (I believe) in her own right. As far as I am aware, Maxima will become Queen once her husband becomes king. I will have to find it, but we do have a thread on the subject.

It is not yet decided. The govermentr at the time of their marriage was of the opinion that the Title King/Queen should only be held of the monarch and the spouse Prince/Princess. But public opinion was very much in favour that Máxima should become Queen. The goverment then decied to delay the Question and it should be decided by the Goverment who is in Office at the time Willem-Alexanders becomes King.

[bartholomeus]

According to law Maxima will actually automatically become Queen, the government has to pass a bill to change that..

even so it is her right and it would be very unorthodox to deny her the title. I think this strange position has to do with the fact that the Dutch became to accustomed to the Queen also being the head of state and gender/feminist issues also off course.

Personally I think they just have to get used to it again, in historic perspective it would be very revolutionary to have a king and princess instead of a king and queen.. It would be comparable to the wife of the Crown Prince Franz Ferdinand of Austria -for instance- who could also not receive the title of Empress after her husbands accession, because they were married morganatic. In this view one could see the possible decision of the government to withhold Maxima the title of Queen as if HRH is seen as not worthy enough for it...

I guess she'll be Queen.

[Marengo]

I think she will be queen too, referring to international customs instead of to equality to all (we men seem to be discriminated here ).

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In the mean time the largest newspaper launched an article on their website two days ago about the abdication of queen Beatrix. They claim she will do so tomorrow, on her sons birthday. However in their printed edition they are more careful and only claim that there are rumours of an abdication.

This is all very tiresome and will pop up until HM will actually abdicate (which won't be tomorrow). The RVD had a hectic day, awnsering phonecalls. According to the newspaper the RVD bought airtime on the public channel, so HM would be able to announce her bdication. However, the newspaper was sloppy and forgot that IF HM has something to announce she certainly doesn't have to 'buy' time on the public channel. Some German and Belgian channels/newspaper took the Telegraaf seriously (a mistake not too many locals make, fortunately ) and were asking film footage of Willem-Alexander etc. And even in Argenina it was big news.

[prinsesbeagle]

De Telegraaf quickly pulled the story on their website within several hours and replaced it with the reaction from the RVD that it was not true. I don't think the first story ever made it to the print edition.

The media needs to quit this game. Everyone knows only Queen B knows when it will happen. And everyone knows no one will be told about it untill the moment is there. Even Juliana only informed the PM less than a week before she made it public and I think even beatrix herself was only told by J a few weeks before the announcement.

[White Princess]

Of course Máxima will became queen! The consorts of the late kings were, why shouldn't her be too? Queen Sophie, Queen Emma, they all hold that title. This is not a doubt. What I doubt if Beatrix will become a HRH like her mother and grandmother, since it's strange to see a reigning queen called "Queen Mother".

[Duke of Marmalade]

Niederlande: Spekulation über Beatrix' Rücktritt - Royales - FOCUS Online

The German media picks the topic up, too. To me Beatrix doesn't look like she wants to retire soon. Why should she? She would rob her son of the time he can see his children growing up whilst he is still PoO. My guess is that Beatrix will only abdicate in case of serious illness, if at all.

[ANNIE_S]

I hope she doesn´t abdicate. I really like Willem-Alexandre and Maxima, but...I don´t know, I think it´s too soon for them. Wait a few years more, please!