Queen Ingrid

[Villemann]

Originally Posted by MargreteI

Queen Ingrid never held the title Dowager Queen but was styled Queen Ingrid for life. Meaning that during her daughters reign and while she was still alive Denmark oficially had two queens. Though only one Monarch.

This was the request of the young Monarch back in 1972 when her father had just died, that her mother not be dowager queen, but to be titled Queen Ingrid also in future.

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Margrethe did much more than letting Ingrid keep her title as Queen. She included Ingrid as a regent, when she herself was out of the country. This was done in the summer of 1972, when Queen Ingrid signed the Danish Constitution and thereby swore to uphold it. It was the first time in Denmark that a regent was picked from outside the line of succession. It was a great honour and signalled that even though Ingrid was now a widow , she was still a very important member of the royal family.

[Kotroman]

Ingrid of Sweden was indeed a dowager queen. Every woman who holds a title by marriage becomes a dowager if she outlives her husband, though she can opt not to use the word dowager as part of her style. Therefore, Ingrid of Sweden was a dowager queen styled HM Queen Ingrid of Denmark. Between King Frederick IX's death and Ingrid of Sweden's death, only one woman was Queen of Denmark and that's Her Present Majesty. Technically, Ingrid of Sweden became Queen of Denmark upon her husband's accession and ceased to be Queen of Denmark upon his death. However, it's correct to say that there were two queens in Denmark between King Frederick IX's death and the death of Ingrid of Sweden.

[GrandDuchessOlga]

Hmm... Enkedronning Ingrid and Dowager Queen Ingrid somehow sounds weird cause you´re not used to it

[Furienna]

That was a sweet thing to do by Margarethe.

[Maura724]

Thank you, Catharina! She was a very pretty little girl.

[Mumper]

It's too bad she seemed to be a cold and vindictive stepdaughter.

I mean, her stepmother seemed like a nice person yet Ingrid treated her rather cruelly.

[Furienna]

But didn't she (and her brothers) warm up to Louise as time went by?

[Dierna23]

I didn't know that the relationship between Louise and her stepdaughter Ingrid has been cold. I always read in books about Lord Mountbatten that she had a good and warm relationship to her stepchildren. However, its a bit sad because Louise was in a rather difficult situation I think. Its never that easy to be a stepmother especially in this position and Louise after giving birth to a stillborn child wasn't able to have own children. I always had the slightly feeling Louise was a bit of a stop-gap.

[Maura724]

Did Ingrid have any other reason to dislike her stepmother beyond the fact that she must have seen her as "replacing" her mother? I'm sure that would be reason enough for a 10-year-old, but was Louise unkind to her at all?

[lumutqueen]

Originally Posted by Maura724

Did Ingrid have any other reason to dislike her stepmother beyond the fact that she must have seen her as "replacing" her mother? I'm sure that would be reason enough for a 10-year-old, but was Louise unkind to her at all?

I don't think she was ever unkind to her.
But I think Ingrid had ever right to not like her step-mother, Ingrid was 10 when her mother died and she possible felt that Louise was trying to replace her mother.
Does anyone know if Louise every met Margrethe, Benedikte or Anne-Marie?

[Viv]

Originally Posted by lumutqueen

Does anyone know if Louise every met Margrethe, Benedikte or Anne-Marie?

She did no doubt, after all she was married to their grand father ! Ingrid went to Stockholm for private visits and vice versa, King Gustav Adolf went to Denmark. However I'd imagine that the relationship was friendly, but formal. I cannot find any pictures of Queen Louise and the three sisters, maybe someone out there can help?

Viv

[maria-olivia]

How was the relationship of Ingrid with her sisters-in-law, Sybilla and the others ?

[Maura724]

This may not be the best thread to post this in as it's quite a few members of the extended family, but Queen Ingrid's at the center. The first 30 seconds look like footage of Margrethe's birthday circa 1970, but after that it's Ingrid in the nursery with a bunch of her grandchildren. My guesses on who's who: Margrethe is holding Joachim, Frederik has on the red shirt and plays with the little car, Alexia is the little girl (obviously), Niklaos is the baby in Ingrid's arms, Pavlos is the bigger blond boy, and Gustav is the other little boy?

Ingrid's voice sounds very grandmotherly. I'm assuming she is speaking Danish, which is interesting because I've read that Anne-Marie's children didn't learn Danish. What language did their grandparents speak to them in? Obviously later it could have been English, but what about when they were little?

YouTube - Danish Royal playgroup

[Dierna23]

Thanks for the lovely video, Maura724 Interesting question. Was Ingrid able to speak greek or french maybe with them?

[Maura724]

Originally Posted by Dierna23

Was Ingrid able to speak greek or french maybe with them?

I don't think Ingrid spoke Greek. I'm sure she knew French, but I doubt the children would have been able to speak it at such a young age. I don't think AM and Constantine raised them to be bilingual from the beginning (like Margrethe and Henrik did with their boys, where Margrethe spoke Danish to them and Henrik spoke French), so I would assume they only spoke Greek when they were little. Maybe Ingrid and Frederik learned a few basic phrases in Greek, relied on Anne-Marie as a translator sometimes, and otherwise just didn't do much talking with Alexia and Pavlos? At that age maybe you don't really need much chatting with your grandparents as long as you get lots of affection?

[Jacknch]

Thank you very much for posting the video above Maura724! When teh video is over, you can click on teh boxes below and see other videos and it's a fascinating insight into the Danish Royal Family - before I had only seen photos of their afternoon teas! Queen Ingrid does sound very grandmotherly and it seems her voice is a slightly deeper version of Queen Margrethe's.

[Zonk]

I know I am coming to this thread late, but I would imagine that losing her mother at the age of 10 certainly had an effect on Ingrid. And anyone woman who attempted to take her place, would have noticed tons of pictures of Princess Margaret around the house. Most likely any womanw with the potential to take her mother's place would have faced the same issue.

It was certainly up to Ingird's father to interject.

And what Queen Victoria are we talking about it? Surely, not Queen Victoria of the United Kingdom, she had been dead by the 1920's for a couple of years.

Any sources regarding the relationship between Ingrid and Louise.

[Furienna]

Originally Posted by Zonk

And what Queen Victoria are we talking about it? Surely, not Queen Victoria of the United Kingdom, she had been dead by the 1920's for a couple of years.

Ingrid's grandmother was Victoria of Baden. She was married to King Gustav V and was a queen of Sweden. Maybe you're thinking about her?

[Dierna23]

You're right, Maura724 and it is said that especially very young children can learn languages very easily. So they might have learned a bit from their grandmother or at least understood what she was meaning if she only talked in Danish to them, even they never learned Danish itself.