Amoula
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Probably Jordanian.sksk said:I wonder if she is more Jordanian or Persian.
Probably Jordanian.sksk said:I wonder if she is more Jordanian or Persian.
P. Nayef went into voluntary exile in Spain when his attempts to get his brother's claim to the throne invalidated due to his poor health, came to naught.tipper said:
I just read that P Nayef bin Abdullah fled to Spain 1 year after KH ascended to the throne 'cos he had been deprived of the crown by his nephew, can any1 tell me why the article reads- deprived of the crown- I suppose the only King Talal' successor was to be his own and only son.....was Noor Hamzah born in Spain, as her family lived there since 1954 ? I'm so confused.
shelley said:P. Nayef went into voluntary exile in Spain when his attempts to get his brother's claim to the throne invalidated due to his poor health, came to naught.
But he was not banned from living in Jordan, just chose not too. Noor and her sisters moved to Spain upon their parents' divorce, as co-incidently her mother's family had settled there after they left Iran after the revolution, and it was therefore 'home' for P. Firouzeh.
she's half persian,half arab,and it's said that she doesnt know arabic which i think its true.arabic is such a hard language that only a native who's learned it from childhood can speak it fluently,we were tought arabic for 6years in school and though i can understand a lot from arabic texts,i can never understand arabic when they talk it.Bubbette said:So she's Iranian or what? How does she know Arabic then?
Regardless of Princess Noor's ethnicities, a person does not have to be of Arab descent in order to know how to speak Arabic, nor do they have to be of any other ethnicity in order to know how to speak a specific language(s), that is associated with a particular race/culture.Bubbette said:So she's Iranian or what? How does she know Arabic then?
cute_girl said:she's half persian,half arab,and it's said that she doesnt know arabic which i think its true.arabic is such a hard language that only a native who's learned it from childhood can speak it fluently,we were tought arabic for 6years in school and though i can understand a lot from arabic texts,i can never understand arabic when they talk it.
well I can tell you that she's not spanish for sure,her name,firoozeh is a genuine persian word which means torquoise,her family name indeed shows that she's 100% persian as far as Vakhshour is the Zorastrian's prophet,besides at the time of prince hamzah marrying princess noor it was announced from govermental sources that princess firoozeh was born and raised in iran and she and her children had had several trips to iran to visit their family which means that princess noor's grandparents,aunts,uncles and cousins still live in iran.lovy_bear said:Hi everyone,
I think that Princess Firouzeh is indeed Spanish (considering that she has supposedly lived her whole life or at least most of it in Spain-as stated in the above quote), but of Iranian descent. Although the prior is something new to me considering that I read somewhere a while ago that she is of Turkish origin.
it was said that she was born in amman,how that possible when they were in exile?tipper said:If I remember well enough, PN was in Jordan for the 1st 6 years of her life, though maybe that was notto learn arabic well, but if she spent time with her dad, she should have learnt Arabic from him..... - I wonder, does she talk to Hamzah in English, don't think Ham can talk farsi.
cute_girl said:it was said that she was born in amman,how that possible when they were in exile?
and i think the couple speak in english noor probably cannot talk farsi eighter
cute_girl said:it was said that she was born in amman,how that possible when they were in exile?
and i think the couple speak in english noor probably cannot talk farsi eighter
wow,thats great,she must be very clever...anyway according to this http://www.kinghussein.gov.jo/rfamily_immediate.html her father is remarried and she's 3half brothers or sisterstipper said:I heard PN can speak Arabic, English, Farsi and Spanish, as well.
cute_girl said:well I can tell you that she's not spanish for sure,her name,firoozeh is a genuine persian word which means torquoise,her family name indeed shows that she's 100% persian as far as Vakhshour is the Zorastrian's .
I never stated that Princess Firouzeh was of Spanish descent/origin on an ethnic basis - if that is what you thought that I meant by my prior post - (I actually even stated that she was of Iranian descent if this was truly the case), but argued that she was Spanish through nationality (if it was indeed a fact that she was born, raised and/or spent some/much of her life living in the prior country). For example a person can be of Thai origin/descent through ethnic means, but be French through nationality if they presently permanently live in France, plan to live there for a while/the long run and/or already have.cute_girl said:well I can tell you that she's not spanish for sure,her name,firoozeh is a genuine persian word which means torquoise,her family name indeed shows that she's 100% persian as far as Vakhshour is the Zorastrian's prophet,besides at the time of prince hamzah marrying princess noor it was announced from govermental sources that princess firoozeh was born and raised in iran and she and her children had had several trips to iran to visit their family which means that princess noor's grandparents,aunts,uncles and cousins still live in iran.
sorry but i cant get what you mean,i said that she's from an iranian origine,born and raised in iran and is indeed iranian,she may have spanish passport and or has become a citizen of spain but that does not make her spanish.lovy_bear said:I never stated that Princess Firouzeh was of Spanish descent/origin on an ethnic basis - if that is what you thought that I meant by my prior post - (I actually even stated that she was of Iranian descent if this was truly the case), but argued that she was Spanish through nationality (if it was indeed a fact that she was born, raised and/or spent some/much of her life living in the prior country). For example a person can be of Thai origin/descent through ethnic means, but be French through nationality if they presently permanently live in France, plan to live there for a while/the long run and/or already have.
As for last names, generally speaking they can always belong to a person with whom the name is not associated with ethnically, if perhaps their ancestor(s) was of the specific race with which the name is associated and/or perhaps through colonial means (not to say that this is necessarily the case with Princess Firouzeh). For example, one of my grandfathers had an Iranian (Farsi I think) last name (since one of his ancestors was ethnically linked to Iran), but he was mostly of Pakistani descent/origin. Both my first and last names are linguistically Arabic in nature, but I am not of Arab descent. I once had a teacher who had a Chinese last name, but she was of British origin etc.
Hi cute_girl,cute_girl said:sorry but i cant get what you mean,i said that she's from an iranian origine,born and raised in iran and is indeed iranian,she may have spanish passport and or has become a citizen of spain but that does not make her spanish.
by iran's law you can never give up your iranian nationality,anyone who has an iranian mother or father,or anyone who marries an iranian is considered iranian(unless the person is not israeli) and has to follow iranian rules inside the country.
and about your name,if you have an arabic name maybe it's because you're muslem and not necesserily arab,just like my dad and bro's names...
and in iran you cannot choose any name or family name you want,for first names,the name you choose must be approved by the goverment(for example an iranian cannot have the name Saddam!!!)and for family names,the name you choose MUST be related somehow to that name eighter by your ancestors or by your job,(ex.you cant have a kurdish name unless you're not a kurd)so if princess firoozeh's name is Vakhshouri,it's because she relates vakhshouries who are pure persians.
ps.I'm sorry if i couldnt explain clearly my english is not that good,and sorry for making so many dictation faults,I'm dyslexic.
Joumana said:I heard that she is from Iran.
brownie said:She was born in Iran, yes.
But, I'm pretty sure that didn't have anything to do with why she lost her personal style of Royal Highness.
The ladies are Princess Sana Asem (prince Asem´s wife, the father of Princess Noor Hamzah) and her two daughters: Princesses Salha and Nejla.i just found this picture in another of the jordanian thread and i was wondering who the last three ladies in the picture are. when was the picture taken? (i can recognise haya, rym, iman and raiyah but not the last three. it also seems quite a recent picture)
Thank you so much for the photos. They are brilliant! I was Yassi's nanny in the early 80s. The last time I saw her was 10 years ago. Her grandmother Aghdas doesn't look any different than she did 25 years ago!!!