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Old 03-18-2005, 11:01 PM
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Whoa...that is not good. :( I wonder if he's been stressed out lately? I've been stressed out and I haven't gotten grades that low....he must be even more stressed than me!

If I could, I would send him some of my classwork on stress management...
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Old 03-18-2005, 11:28 PM
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There hsa got to be a more plausible explanation for this. Perhaps those are not grades. Perhaps they are group assignments or seat assignments. Besides how could all those Hoyas flunk like that. In Microeconomics! Give me a break! I am not good at that stuff and I got a pretty decent grade. But that list is from the fall of 2003. But for him and all those other students tp get such a bad grade just seems totally unreal. I think that list means something else. Besides that is an introductory microeconomics class. People can take the AP version and get college credit. There is absolutely no way that he and all those other students at Georgetown could get a bad grade like that in an introductory economics class. No way.
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Ok I just searched Georgetown's grading scale. E's are not part of the grading scale and if you look on the list some people have E's. Therefore this has to be some other type of list. If you look at the heading, it says recitation. This could possibly mean that the letters signify a recitation groups A-F. Hashim was probably in recitation group D. Here is the grading scale of Georgetown University (http://liberalstudies.georgetown.edu...ts/grades.html):

Grading System
The Liberal Studies Program does not allow students to audit classes. Therefore, students will receive one of the following: a letter grade; an “I” or an “N” (for Incomplete, which will turn into a grade); or a “W” (Withdrawal) for the courses for which they are registered. The exception is students who drop a course early in the semester, in which case the course does not reflect on the transcript at all.

You will not be “registered” nor earn a grade merely by showing up for a class. You must be registered officially before you attend a class.

While we hold to the following scale in calculating grades, it should be noted that the Master's Scale runs from A to C. Anything below a C (2.0) would receive an F.

The Master's grading scale follows:

A 4.00
A- 3.67
B+ 3.33 B 3.00
B- 2.67
C+ 2.33
C 2.00
C- 1.67 Note: C- through D are not options in the
D+ 1.33 MALS scale.
D 1.00
F 0.00 W Withdrawal AU Audit I Incomplete (Graduate notation) N Incomplete (Undergraduate notation) S Satisfactory B or better for MALS; C or better for BALS, in a pass/fail course U Unsatisfactory Below a B for MALS; below a C for BALS, in a pass/fail course The grades of S (Satisfactory) and U (Unsatisfactory) are not included in the calculation of a student's GPA. However, for the purpose of reviewing academic performance leading to academic dismissal, a “U” is treated as an “F.”


Policy Affecting Master's Students

A minimum GPA of 3. 0 is required for graduation. Students will not be allowed to register for courses beyond the 27 course credits (excluding the 3-credit thesis) required for the graduation for the purpose of raising the GPA.

Transfer credit grades do not appear on the transcript and are not a part of the student's "quality point" GPA.


Policy Affecting Bachelor's Students

A minimum GPA of 2. 0 is required for graduation. Students will not be allowed to register for courses beyond the required credits for the purpose of raising the GPA.

Transfer credit grades do not appear on the transcript and are not a part of the student's "quality point" GPA. Lower-Division Grading System

For the first course taken by lower-division students, the overall grade is calculated by the three professors, who meet together and discuss the grades. In the five lower-division classes that follow, the three professors submit their portion of the grade to the Liberal Studies office. The grades are then added, divided by three, and then measured against the grading chart to determine the final grade. With this method, a student who achieves B+, A-, A has an overall grade of 3.66,and receives a B+ for the course grade. (In another example, a student with a C+, B, and B+ would attain a B- overall.) The exception to this procedure is that an “F” in one segment causes an F for the course.

Students must achieve a passing grade for all three segments of each of the six basic courses to receive credit for the eight-hour course. If the student receives an F the student may re-take and must pass the course in its entirety before enrolling in the next course in the six-course sequence. Course may only be enrolled in twice.
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Yeah and even if it was posted online it would be by a special number or the last 4 digits of one's social security number
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Those are definitely not grades
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Old 03-19-2005, 05:41 AM
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grades would not be published like that because of privacy issues and at uni grades are usually (A, B, C, D, F) many don't have E as part of the grading rubric. How were you able to access this anyway?
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I used google toollbar ,went to Georgetown.edu site and pressed search site button ,not search the web.
In my country they sometimes do publish test results online,from certain exams that is ,but only from the writing part ...

Obvioulsy a D exists and you get points for D ,it's there for a reason...:)


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yes, I'd agree with you but some other students have an E on there's, whereas GU doesn't give out E's
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here's another scale
http://www.georgetown.edu/undergrad/...ulations3.html
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Esdorn, Daniel Jorg
Esdorn, Daniel Jorg
E
Esdorn, Daniel Jorg
E
Esdorn, Daniel Jorg
E
E
Esdorn, Daniel Jorg
E
Esdorn, Daniel Jorg
E
Esdorn, Daniel Jorg: E

Garcia, Colleen Elizabeth: E

Huang, Terrence Kenyu: E

Hussein, Hashim Bin Al: D

Jenkins, Jared Jeffrey: E

Jones, Nichiren Rashad: E

Khan, Zara: E

Kircher, Ashley Susan E

Mata Saravia, Carlos Enrique: E

Moffet, Christopher Morris: E

Nachom, Yaninee: E

Ononibaku, Michael Chukwu Emeka
E
Ononibaku, Michael Chukwu Emeka: E

Saboe, Joseph Patrick: E

Sarin, Amit: E

Smith, O. Dillon: E

Street, Kristen Serene: E

Stucko, Christopher: E

Trump, Eric Frederic: E

Warznak, Craig D.: E


let's forget about P Hashim for a second. Let's say that it is a list of the students' grades. Focusing on all these students who got E's I'm wondering how a professor can give out E's to his/her students when clearly by the site you pointed out to me the letter grade E does not exist in GU? Yes, D does but E doesn't, so how can this be a list of grades when some students have E's as there grade, which is a letter grade that does not exist at GU?

I may be wrong, it may very well be a list of grades, but I doubt it considering the E's

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who knows:)
perhaps it stands for the line where you sit during exams like schedule or something,though i have a feeling it has to do with grades,but guess will never know if He's a good student or not,maybe we should ask him ,this used to be his email Addy hbh6@georgetown.edu before he asked them to remove it from Uni directory.
People were probably spamming his inbox.
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Did any of his bros go to grad school?

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Prince Feisal has an MBA. The King went to grad school but did specially tailored courses as he is not a graduate of any university. Prince Ali did not graduate from either Princeton nor Columbia. Prince Hamzah is still in an undergraduate programme at Harvard.
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Like I said before, the heading above the letters said recitation. I really believe it is their recitation group assignment. Also, like I said b/f, this is Georgetwon. There is absolutely no way that all those Hoyas could get bad grades like that. If that did happen then Georgetwon would definitely go down in rank. Besides that is an introductory micoreconomics class. Top students would never get such a bad grade in that class, unless it totally wasn't for them or they were wholly irresponsible.
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I am glad those aren't grades, then. I was going to say that if it were grades, then maybe he had a professor who graded on a curve. My mom is attending the same university as I am and she is stuck with an instructor who grades on a curve. Very unfair.

Sorry for dragging the thread off-topic.
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I don't think those are grades. At my university, they use our student numbers when posting grades whether it is on the internet or outside the prof's office. To protect students privacy, they NEVER use names, always student numbers regardlesss of the situation. I very much doubt they would post names along with students grades like that, especially on the internet.
Also, at my university, the letter 'E' exists in our grading system. it represents a fail but you came very close to passing (something like 47/48-49% ) so they let you redo the exam giving you another chance to pass the class. but anyways, again i don't think those are grades........what does recitation mean?
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But E is not listed as an option at Georgetown.

Recitation is a class that is smaller in size than a lecture class. In recitation one has more of an opportunity to ask questions, discuss topics, and for more of a teacher-student interaction. BUt discussion is a big part of a recitation class. Usually one has recitation in addition to a lecture class b/c the lecture class is really big and so the students have to pick one of the many recitation classes that are offered. So in regards to that list that we saw PHashim's name on, I hypothesize that he was put in recitation D. As one can see, and can assume in regards to an introductory microeconomics class, that class is huge. SO therefore many recitations are offered so that one can get clarity or discuss what is going on in class. Usually a TA, or Grad Student, teaches recitation.
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Ok to clarify more cuz I don't think I was too clear in my last post:

PHashim was in Microeconomics. It is probable that Micoreconomics consisted of a lecture class and a recitation class. Usually a professor (or assistant professor) teaches all the students who signed up for the lecture class. Then there is a recitation class that is taught by a grad student. This is where students are divided into different recitations, so PHashim was in recitation D.

But I must also note that sometimes a class is a combined lecture and recitation, which may make the class longer. In this case the professor teaches the whole time. However I don't think this was the case for PHashim's microeconomics class.

SOrry to be so verbose. I can't help it when I really want to get a point across.
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don't know what date is on this news:

Among the many highlights was the presentation of PTPI’s most prestigious award, the Eisenhower Medallion, to His late Majesty King Hussein bin Talal of Jordan. Accepting this award on his father’s behalf was His Royal Highness Prince Hashim bin Hussein. Participants enjoyed a moving tribute to His late Majesty, followed with remarks by the Prince.

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