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Old 05-31-2010, 02:25 PM
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Now that Xavi commented on the way she looked, I have a question: aren't we going to have a special fashion thread for Sara? Or shall we comment here?
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Maybe it was just a mistake. The card is pretty clear.
I dont think so .. Petra statement can not mention her name "Sarah al Faisal " without the royal title,if she is really a princess.
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Then it's really weird. What about that article the day after the wedding that mentioned she had been given the title?
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I think the title is a matter of time espically if she got pregnant ... there is no case were a wife in the family has no title !!!
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Then it's really weird. What about that article the day after the wedding that mentioned she had been given the title?
You mean Elaph article .. It is s a good and trusted site , but some of its news takes time to become a reality. Let us wait
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Old 05-31-2010, 04:21 PM
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So she is not princess just Sara al Faisal .. thank you ayah
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The Prince's wife is not a princess. It would be something very unusual for Hashemite Kingdom whereas it is quite common in Morocco.
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No, Petra news Agency, is the official news agency which get its news (regarding RF) from the Royal Hashemite Court (RHC), so if she wasn't referred to as HRH then she was not given the title yet.
Do you really believe at an official function like the launch of a new Generations for Peace camp that they would have used the title in the name plate without approval? Princess Sarah is the managing director of Generations for Peace
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as a first public appearance ; she looked plain to me without make up and her top is not flattering .
there is a thread about Jordanian royal ladies fachion and style i think there is the best place to discuss about that
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Old 06-01-2010, 04:24 AM
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The Jordan Times is using the title:

HRH Princess Sarah

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So she is not princess just Sara al Faisal .. thank you ayah
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If you check the article, Petra now has ammended the article to include the title HRH Princess Sarah al-Feisal. So it must be official!
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If you check the article, Petra now has ammended the article to include the title HRH Princess Sarah al-Feisal. So it must be official!
You are right Fadel and Veram .. thank you now we can say princess Sara al faisal
http://www.alrai.com/pages.php?news_id=338482
Al Rai and all newspapers also changed their articles ... so it was petra`s mistake as Noormeanslight said
Petra added also her title under the pic
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HRH PRINCE FEISAL HUMBLED BY EXPERIENCES OF GENERATIONS FOR PEACE DELEGATES
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HRH PRINCE FEISAL ‘HUMBLED’ BY EXPERIENCES OF GENERATIONS FOR PEACE DELEGATES | Generations For Peace
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I hope working together in the same organization for such a good cause will strengthen their marriage, too as well as improving peace making processes in the world.
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I hope working together in the same organization for such a good cause will strengthen their marriage, too as well as improving peace making processes in the world.
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as a first public appearance ; she looked plain to me without make up and her top is not flattering .
i think they suit eachother in terms of looks.
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Now that Xavi commented on the way she looked, I have a question: aren't we going to have a special fashion thread for Sara? Or shall we comment here?
There is a fashion thread
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Pleased to meet you PhillyGurl!

Re your question 2: the marriage contract is in certain countries we refer to as Nikah Al Kitab, which means the marriage of the book. This is where the details of the provisions (inc Mehr aka Dowry), the structure of the marriage and (yes you're right) the case of divorce is dealt with as amicably as possible.

Its essential for all Islamic Marriages because without this, the marriage isn't recognised by the state.


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1. Why didn't P. Ali and P. Haya attend the wedding?
2. Is a marriage contract like a prenuptial agreement...(ie: if the marriage ends in divorce you get...I get..)

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Hi wingsofsky, pleased to meet you!

I agree that that would be a strange thing indeed, if Sara Al-Feisal hadn't been bequeethed the title of Princess. However in this case it is the tradition when announcing a marriage reports refer to the Lady in question by using her maiden name. So as to highlight the fact that she isn't of royal birth nor a member of the royal family. This is done for political correcness purposes.

Although thereafter she will be referred to as HRH Amira (Princess) Sara Al-Feisal.

Also if we referr to the Late King Hussein, with respect to his wives, no all had the same title:

Queen Dina
Princess Muna
Queen Alia
Queen Noor

Thereby the rules dictating how the titles should be bequeethed may still be subject to the ancient Hashimi tribal rules (ie family concensus etc).

As regards Morocco: The term given to a Lady of Royal birth is Princess Lalla. The term Lalla originates from the indigenous Amazighy (Saharan) Kingdom/Culture and its system of governenance.

Lalla generally means Noble Lady (she is Princess in her own right) and is the equivilant to Princesses of Kingdoms. The term is also taken from Morocco's indigenous (not national) language Tamazight of which there a three branches: Chelha, (Tachelhit) High Atlas, Rifi (Tarifit) Riff Mountains and Amazigh (Tamazight) Middle Atlas


The other term Shrifia when only used in the Amazighy context, refers to the most ancient of Moroccan Royal Amazighy Households from whom all including the Alaouites originated. When used in this context Shrifia is Higher than Lalla.


Moulay : Tamazight for Emperor, the Arab Equivelant is Sultan
Lalla : Tamazight for Lady and Princess, Arab equivilant is Amira
Shrifia

When Morocco proclaimed itself an Arab Country after orbtaining independance from the French in 1956, then they added the Arabic Terms in front of the Amazighy ones (so as to combine the two cultures).

Present Form: HRH Amira Lalla Salma.
Ancient Form: Shrifia Lalla Salma


Hope this helps,

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The Prince's wife is not a princess. It would be something very unusual for Hashemite Kingdom whereas it is quite common in Morocco.
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Pleased to meet you PhillyGurl!

Re your question 2: the marriage contract is in certain countries we refer to as Nikah Al Kitab, which means the marriage of the book. This is where the details of the provisions (inc Mehr aka Dowry), the structure of the marriage and (yes you're right) the case of divorce is dealt with as amicably as possible.

Its essential for all Islamic Marriages because without this, the marriage isn't recognised by the state.


Hope this helps.





Hi wingsofsky, pleased to meet you!

I agree that that would be a strange thing indeed, if Sara Al-Feisal hadn't been bequeethed the title of Princess. However in this case it is the tradition when announcing a marriage reports refer to the Lady in question by using her maiden name. So as to highlight the fact that she isn't of royal birth nor a member of the royal family. This is done for political correcness purposes.

Although thereafter she will be referred to as HRH Amira (Princess) Sara Al-Feisal.

Also if we referr to the Late King Hussein, with respect to his wives, no all had the same title:

Queen Dina
Princess Muna
Queen Alia
Queen Noor

Thereby the rules dictating how the titles should be bequeethed may still be subject to the ancient Hashimi tribal rules (ie family concensus etc).

As regards Morocco: The term given to a Lady of Royal birth is Princess Lalla. The term Lalla originates from the indigenous Amazighy (Saharan) Kingdom/Culture and its system of governenance.

Lalla generally means Noble Lady (she is Princess in her own right) and is the equivilant to Princesses of Kingdoms. The term is also taken from Morocco's indigenous (not national) language Tamazight of which there a three branches: Chelha, (Tachelhit) High Atlas, Rifi (Tarifit) Riff Mountains and Amazigh (Tamazight) Middle Atlas


The other term Shrifia when only used in the Amazighy context, refers to the most ancient of Moroccan Royal Amazighy Households from whom all including the Alaouites originated. When used in this context Shrifia is Higher than Lalla.


Moulay : Tamazight for Emperor, the Arab Equivelant is Sultan
Lalla : Tamazight for Lady and Princess, Arab equivilant is Amira
Shrifia

When Morocco proclaimed itself an Arab Country after orbtaining independance from the French in 1956, then they added the Arabic Terms in front of the Amazighy ones (so as to combine the two cultures).

Present Form: HRH Amira Lalla Salma.
Ancient Form: Shrifia Lalla Salma


Hope this helps,

Abdel Noor
Thank you for the useful explanation Abdel Noor. Nice to meet you, too.
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