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Old 08-28-2005, 04:53 AM
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They always smile?LOL...umm I am gonna have to disagree,U can see rare pics of them smiling,I don't think the protocol says "smile all the time"!

There must be lines (for sec. purposes) between the King and people,the same goes for the CP,not all the princes.
And about the shoulder kissing,its to show respect.

I do remember when Ali called JTV and said that,he made me laugh so much,it was sooooooooooo cute of him. But I think he always says that,it's rather a habbit,I even heard the king saying that a few times (betwasu 3la eshi,Do u need (recommend) anything?).

i didn't mean all the time , and its different on pictures when they visit people the king smile to them all the time.....



all the royals must be protected and not only the king and the CP.....



well the king learns Arabic from Ali , he seems to talk like him , and use his language as the wasn't talk like this before, he always with PA so i think he would learn some Arabic from him..




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Old 08-28-2005, 05:03 AM
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I read in Arab Times about Noor's nanny role but I didn't know whether to believe the writer or not as he always sound so hostile against Arab Royalty. The site also mentioned Haya's grandmother, there was a picture actually but I couldn't find it now, that was the first time I see Ali and Haya's grandmother.

Am pretty sure their life wasn't stable, now I recall someone said they lived alone in Aqaba or something, years later of course—can't recall correctly.

No need to thank me, I just said what I strongly believe, and just because we don't read such nice here—though I read so many good stuff about them both here too—that doesn't mean they aren't incredible individuals, we can stick to what we believe, beside both Ali and Haya are well rounded persons with high sense of independency, what had been written here about them won't kill them, it would not kill Haya the criticism she got when married to Shk. Moh'd and Ali certainly won't get depressed over the comments about his weight gain or hair loss or even his lips! May God bless their hearts:o .
i agree with you , and i will stick with what i believe and that PA is great person and PH too





well, QN i am sure she wasn't there for Ali and Haya ,if they were together we will feel at least from pictures , why they didn't want people to see Noor in their wedding and just invited her to the private party , a lot of things indicates that they don't have a strong bond with QN ,



maybe the kids specially Haya wouldn't accept a stranger mother , but on the other hand she was three years old , if QN was even just a little close to her or to Ali they will like her ,.......



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Old 08-28-2005, 05:04 AM
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I have read interviews that have stated KA is more comfortable speaking English than Arabic,and his skill at the language is somewhat weak.
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Old 08-28-2005, 05:13 AM
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But does he have ones NOW? He is a bodyguard himself, I thought of the idea of him not having any because he is one now. He should look after his safety especially that he will experience fatherhood in a couple of months in God's willing.

you shouldn't be worry , he has his own bodyguard , when he goes to football games we can see them better , i don't think he just walk around without bodyguards, what i know that he hates them , but he should be aware about his own safety as he will be a father now , and should take care of him self....
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Old 08-28-2005, 05:18 AM
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It just came across my mind about Ali's s situation as a half Palestinian in Jordan. I have always read that Ali is the only full Arab blooded among his brothers but in Jordan there's a critical case (I think) between genuine Jordanians and Jordanians from Palestinian roots. I read something about a football team that insulted Rania because of her Palestinian background. So if there are such problems, how do the genuine Jordanians look to Ali? Is he anyway disrespected or underestimated for that?

as PA has a Palestinian roots all th Jordanian from Palestinian origin love him
too much , and PA always shows his respect to Palestinian and never let an occasion without supporting us ,
in the past not all Jordanian hated him , but also there is many hated him just because of that , this is a fact ,



but now its totally different , PA is gaining all hearts , we didn't know him very well before but after his father death day after day all of Jordanian express their love to him



he is known as the loved prince :) :)

Queen Rania we loved her at first but not any more she didn't let any space for us to defend her

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Old 08-28-2005, 08:41 AM
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as PA has a Palestinian roots all th Jordanian from Palestinian origin love him
too much , and PA always shows his respect to Palestinian and never let an occasion without supporting us ,
in the past not all Jordanian hated him , but also there is many hated him just because of that , this is a fact ,



but now its totally different , PA is gaining all hearts , we didn't know him very well before but after his father death day after day all of Jordanian express their love to him



he is known as the loved prince :) :)

Queen Rania we loved her at first but not any more she didn't let any space for us to defend her
U mean by "us" who?
Who said Jordanians didn't like Ali?!
Jordanians loved Ali and Queen Alia,they never thought about her as being from Pal. Origins,and to make something clear,that day i heard a prof in history talking about the History if Jordanian and Palestinian Family's he said that Al-Touqan are originally curcasian,so this might explain y Ali is so much into curcasians...
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Old 08-28-2005, 09:07 AM
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U mean by "us" who?
Who said Jordanians didn't like Ali?!
Jordanians loved Ali and Queen Alia,they never thought about her as being from Pal. Origins,and to make something clear,that day i heard a prof in history talking about the History if Jordanian and Palestinian Family's he said that Al-Touqan are originally curcasian,so this might explain y Ali is so much into curcasians...

" us " i meant Jordanian from Palestinian origin ...



yes this is what i heard , i have my own Full Jordanian friends didn't like Ali just because he has a Palestinian origin , and i know that not all Jordanian does, but this is a common idea , i know that now things are different but before five years , a lot of Jordanian didn't like Ali , even they promoted the play boy reputation , and said very hard things about him , i heard them my self , i know people who were working in the Jordanian army who said PA should not be a CP because he has a Palestinian origin , this is a fact and no body can deny that



things now turned to the better , PA now is loved by all , because of his hard work and his true love to his own people
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Old 08-28-2005, 09:17 AM
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Am sorry but I think you guys got mixed up between my two posts, Ali's letter to the FIFA was about the abusive actions that Israeli committed towards the Palestinians, the QR thing in the stadium was a completely whole different thing. I wrote about this incident just to explain why I think that Ali might not be accepted by the genuine Jordanians. The FIFA letter part was just to show how Ali is (or I think) proud of his Palestinian half.

Now that I asked again about QR's incident, I've to know about Ali's presence there—I didn't know that at all.

The Jordanian team was Al Faisaly, all the players are pure Jordanians while the other Jordanian team Al Wehdat, had Jordanians from Palestinian roots; the Al Faisaly team were the one who shouted this insulting, offensive comment. I found it highly offensive, to ask a person to divorce the spouse just because he/she comes from a different country.

well, the first letter was to the FIFA about the Israeli team , and this was the first time to send such a letter , PA asked all the Arabs federation to send the same letter... this was very nice from him , and at the Arab pan the Libyan team hurts the Palestinian team so Prince Ali went to the hospital and sent flowers to them and insisted to see each one .. when the Palestinian team come to Jordan PA usually sends a special plan to pick them from Palestine , and visit them and make a reception for them ....



i think he is very proud to show his mother origin and by the way sometimes he talks using the Nablus way like talking ( AAL) INSTEAD OF (GAL) very sweet...


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Old 08-28-2005, 09:20 AM
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I wanted to remember the days I was in Aqaba and Haya was born, she was a little older and then Ali and I remember I had a lot of affection for them. I remember this little phrase that Ali told me when he was tiny and in the evening they had to go to bed and go to sleep and I told him he had to go to bed, he would look at me and said "naughty Aunty Farah, go to bed!"


Aww I thought this was very cute ...

HOW CUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTE:) :)
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Please any photo's about Prince Ali en Rym???
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Old 08-28-2005, 10:21 AM
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Please any photo's about Prince Ali en Rym???
i found this photo to PA with Princess Rym and PHaya

its from Princess Haya website
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Old 08-28-2005, 10:37 AM
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i found this photo to PA with Princess Rym and PHaya

its from Princess Haya website
I can´t find this pic in princess haya website
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Old 08-28-2005, 10:52 AM
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This is a part of Princess Haya interview, when I read it I couldn’t not to cry :( :(




Q: We understand the great loss that you must have gone through after the death of your mother. In what ways did this incident shape your views and opinions on life?
A: It just made me grow up faster, much faster. I had to look after myself, look after my little brother Ali, and I felt I had to look after my father, although in essence he looked after us all! In many ways I experienced motherhood that way without being a mother, Prince Ali was 1 year old when our mother died. I tried to be his mother as best I could. I laugh at myself, even understanding the pain of a mother, when I had to face the fact that my little boy Prince Ali had grown up and now looking after me. I ask his permission to do things now and trust his judgment when I do not trust my own. It makes me smile. I feel old and young that way. When my mother died, there was just a terrible void. I sometimes think I have been lucky, my mother has never grown old or fought with me. She is only a beautiful angel in my mind frozen in time. My father more than made up by giving me the love of two parents. I never knew a mother’s touch though. I would have been a more complete person if I had had a mother. But I can still look forward to that, by loving my own children more, if God grants me that miracle.




Very hard life , and very strong Haya , she really deserves our respect
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Old 08-28-2005, 10:53 AM
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I can´t find this pic in princess haya website
enter to profiles and articles , then you will find it there :)
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Old 08-28-2005, 11:10 AM
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yes , and i like this traditional very much , its really nice

i believe that Rym and Ali will announce the birth as they will be very happy to have their first daughter and yes the best thing we can do is to wish for Rym and the baby to be safety and healthy , To Ali too as i think he will be very stress
so do u believe prince ali will have a baby daughter?
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well, the first letter was to the FIFA about the Israeli team , and this was the first time to send such a letter , PA asked all the Arabs federation to send the same letter... this was very nice from him , and at the Arab pan the Libyan team hurts the Palestinian team so Prince Ali went to the hospital and sent flowers to them and insisted to see each one .. when the Palestinian team come to Jordan PA usually sends a special plan to pick them from Palestine , and visit them and make a reception for them ....



i think he is very proud to show his mother origin and by the way sometimes he talks using the Nablus way like talking ( AAL) INSTEAD OF (GAL) very sweet...

oh my god really u made me start 2 like him sooooooooooooooooo much thnx suria
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This is a part of Princess Haya interview, when I read it I couldn’t not to cry :( :(




Q: We understand the great loss that you must have gone through after t