Prince Ali and Princess Rym- News & Photos III

[Lyonnaise]

Here's the new thread for Ali and Rym! You can access the old thread here: Prince Ali and Princess Rym

[shelley]

I am not sure if the previous thread was closed because it was full or because the moderators disapproved of the subject matter as it was being discussed. But I just want to clarify that I meant P. Ali was the one that had a bit too much to drink at P. Hamzah's wedding. I am sure there were other members of the family who were also drinking but everyone should know their limits.

Again, in answer to another post. No, I do not think that an academic university education is the most important thing. What I do think is that people born to privilege have almost a duty to give some thing back to society. And for a lot of people a good education is often the key to discovering what area they can best serve and function in. But of course not for everyone. I am pleased to read however that P. Ali is such a kind person who is deeply affected by the horrors that one regularly sees in the media. I am also glad that he is doing a lot for the Jordanian football team which is obviously important to the Jordanian young people.

I am sure that when Princes Hamzah and Hashem return to Jordan after completing their education they will find interesting and useful things to do. P. Hassan returned to Jordan at 21 after completing his degree and was immediately immersed in both the official duties expected of him as crownprince, primarily the economic development of the country, and also in persuing his various interests such as interfaith and intercultural relations and the creation of institutions such as the Royal Scientific Society , and the Al Al Bait Foundation, that are now well established and well regarded both locally and internationally. He certainly found plenty to keep him busy, whilst also being able to introduce various sports into Jordan such as taekwondo, polo, and squash, and particiate in them at an international level ( although I agree that none of these have the mass appeal of football, even if the players are succesfull.) He also found time to be the first member of the JRF to be a paratrooper, to learn to fly a helicopter, become an expert diver and skier, and write several books. Most of this before he was forty.

There is a lot to do in a developing country like Jordan, and I am sure that K. Abdullah will both welcome and need all the support he can get from his brothers and cousins.

[T-R-O-U-B-L-E]

<<Cut1me wrote:I agree everyone keeps saying how lucky Ali is, but Rym is the one who is lucky. She is marrying a prince, someone who has a lot of oportunities and can do whatever he wants and who is gorgeous. If you ask me she should be the one who counts her lucky stars>>

Thanks,That's exactely what I ment,I'm glad someone agrees :)

[sommone]

Originally Posted by shelley

I am not sure if the previous thread was closed because it was full or because the moderators disapproved of the subject matter as it was being discussed. But I just want to clarify that I meant P. Ali was the one that had a bit too much to drink at P. Hamzah's wedding. I am sure there were other members of the family who were also drinking but everyone should know their limits.

Again, in answer to another post. No, I do not think that an academic university education is the most important thing. What I do think is that people born to privilege have almost a duty to give some thing back to society. And for a lot of people a good education is often the key to discovering what area they can best serve and function in. But of course not for everyone. I am pleased to read however that P. Ali is such a kind person who is deeply affected by the horrors that one regularly sees in the media. I am also glad that he is doing a lot for the Jordanian football team which is obviously important to the Jordanian young people.

I am sure that when Princes Hamzah and Hashem return to Jordan after completing their education they will find interesting and useful things to do. P. Hassan returned to Jordan at 21 after completing his degree and was immediately immersed in both the official duties expected of him as crownprince, primarily the economic development of the country, and also in persuing his various interests such as interfaith and intercultural relations and the creation of institutions such as the Royal Scientific Society , and the Al Al Bait Foundation, that are now well established and well regarded both locally and internationally. He certainly found plenty to keep him busy, whilst also being able to introduce various sports into Jordan such as taekwondo, polo, and squash, and particiate in them at an international level ( although I agree that none of these have the mass appeal of football, even if the players are succesfull.) He also found time to be the first member of the JRF to be a paratrooper, to learn to fly a helicopter, become an expert diver and skier, and write several books. Most of this before he was forty.

There is a lot to do in a developing country like Jordan, and I am sure that K. Abdullah will both welcome and need all the support he can get from his brothers and cousins.

Shelley, the topic was closed I believe because it had reached the length that the moderators allow topics to go.

[shelley]

Originally Posted by sommone

Shelley, the topic was closed I believe because it had reached the length that the moderators allow topics to go.

Okay, sorry, I wasn't sure.

[sommone]

Let's remember people that regardless of the difference in opinions about Prince Ali and his past and present "behavior", everyone is entitled to their opinion be it negative or positive. Let me say that I still admire Prince Ali and my reason for liking him isn't solely based on the fact his mother passed when he was only a year old. In the beginning, I didn't know anything about the man other than the handsome face I saw in the pictures, but as time progressed, I begin to learn of things about the Prince that I liked about him. Yes, the thought of someone losing a parent at such a young age tends to pull at the heart strings for most of us. However, I would like to say that because Ali didn't finish school doesn't necessarily make him an "average" man. I think it is safe to say that none of actually knows if he's smart or not, and if he is only average, so what. It's obvious that he had some things going on that may have prevented him from completing his studies, and if I sound as if I'm making excuses for him, trust me, I'm not. I still wish him nothing but great things in his life. I think he and Rym are fortunate enough to have each other.

[sommone]

This is for tipper...I think that at least from Shelley's point of view, Prince Ali should have a degree just in case something should happen to the monarchy and they have to leave the country to go else where. I think she prefers that Ali puts his talents to better use by finding his own way than to have a job "appointed" to him because he is part of the family....Correct me if I'm off base Shelley. I will say I'm wrong if I'm wrong. As far as my opinion, it does not matter that Prince Ali doesn't have a degree or degrees...However, I think I would have to agree with Shelley that maybe if something was to happen with the Monarchy then maybe it would be in his best interest to possibly secure some kind of degree just in case he has to seek employment in another country. However, like I said, it doesn't take anything from the man himself because he doesn't have a degree, but that's where I stand. I can't necessarily speak for others.

[shelley]

Originally Posted by sommone

This is for tipper...I think that at least from Shelley's point of view, Prince Ali should have a degree just in case something should happen to the monarchy and they have to leave the country to go else where. I think she prefers that Ali puts his talents to better use by finding his own way than to have a job "appointed" to him because he is part of the family....Correct me if I'm off base Shelley. I will say I'm wrong if I'm wrong. As far as my opinion, it does not matter that Prince Ali doesn't have a degree or degrees...However, I think I would have to agree with Shelley that maybe if something was to happen with the Monarchy then maybe it would be in his best interest to possibly secure some kind of degree just in case he has to seek employment in another country. However, like I said, it doesn't take anything from the man himself because he doesn't have a degree, but that's where I stand. I can't necessarily speak for others.

No Sommone, you are not wrong. I do think it is important for anyone, whoever he or she is,to have some sort of skill or training, if not an academic degree, which makes them able to get a job on merit should they need to. It cannot be good for self esteem to know that you are in a certain job because of who you are ( although I guess that someone who belongs to hereditary monarchy wouldn't quite see it my way !) And whilst I agree with you that it does not take away from a person that they do not have an academic degree as such, but I believe that at nearly 30, P. Ali would have some declared interest or concern that he was putting some effort into. I have just reread his cv and there is not much meat there. He may of course be an extremely private person and we on the outside cannot not know what he exactly he does and actually there is something there that he is really putting his heart and soul into, other than the football of course !

I also wonder how many perks and privileges there are in his position as Guard Commander that would not apply to a regular non family member. And whether or not the constraints of being a prince affect his professional work adversely on any occasion. It must be difficult all round.

[sommone]

Originally Posted by shelley

No Sommone, you are not wrong. I do think it is important for anyone, whoever he or she is,to have some sort of skill or training, if not an academic degree, which makes them able to get a job on merit should they need to. It cannot be good for self esteem to know that you are in a certain job because of who you are ( although I guess that someone who belongs to hereditary monarchy wouldn't quite see it my way !) And whilst I agree with you that it does not take away from a person that they do not have an academic degree as such, but I believe that at nearly 30, P. Ali would have some declared interest or concern that he was putting some effort into. I have just reread his cv and there is not much meat there. He may of course be an extremely private person and we on the outside cannot not know what he exactly he does and actually there is something there that he is really putting his heart and soul into, other than the football of course !

I also wonder how many perks and privileges there are in his position as Guard Commander that would not apply to a regular non family member. And whether or not the constraints of being a prince affect his professional work adversely on any occasion. It must be difficult all round.

I'm glad that I was able to correctly convey your opinions without butchering them too much. I'm beginning to wonder too if P Ali is one of those royals who are very private about their personal life, and if that is the case, then I can respect him for that. However, it does put a damper on the "watching" part. Could also be the reason behind the disappearance of the photos from the MDA Productions website...I think I may have spelled that wrong, or it could be the fact that the owner of the page found out that the pictures were being used with his or her permission. I stated that before.

[tipper]

Originally Posted by sommone

This is for tipper...I think that at least from Shelley's point of view, Prince Ali should have a degree just in case something should happen to the monarchy and they have to leave the country to go else where. I think she prefers that Ali puts his talents to better use by finding his own way than to have a job "appointed" to him because he is part of the family....Correct me if I'm off base Shelley. I will say I'm wrong if I'm wrong. As far as my opinion, it does not matter that Prince Ali doesn't have a degree or degrees...However, I think I would have to agree with Shelley that maybe if something was to happen with the Monarchy then maybe it would be in his best interest to possibly secure some kind of degree just in case he has to seek employment in another country. However, like I said, it doesn't take anything from the man himself because he doesn't have a degree, but that's where I stand. I can't necessarily speak for others.

u made a point, sommone, Prince Emanuele Filiberto di Savoia ,the CP of my country's Royal Family, got a degree in Economics and he's currently working in a Swiss bank, as he has always lived in Switzerland, our Royal Family was sent to exhile back in 1946, anyway that's a different situation, I think no1 would want to think that the Hashemites could be sent to exhile, well, anyway, I think P Ali , now a married man, should think what his role in Jordan and in JRF must be in the immediate future, he's almost 28, now, not a teen anymore, unfortunately, I'm afraid his chance to get a degree has long passed by. PS- I know for a fact he had troubles at Eckerd College in Florida, back in summer '98, all because of a girl, some1 who was also at that college in the '97 and '98 years. She even posted some sexy pix of them on the Net..... Of course, they were soon deleted, I found the link back in May 200, but only the link, no pix- u can't find any link to those pix, now-

[sommone]

Originally Posted by tipper

u made a point, sommone, Prince Emanuele Filiberto di Savoia ,the CP of my country's Royal Family, got a degree in Economics and he's currently working in a Swiss bank, as he has always lived in Switzerland, our Royal Family was sent to exhile back in 1946, anyway that's a different situation, I think no1 would want to think that the Hashemites could be sent to exhile, well, anyway, I think P Ali , now a married man, should think what his role in Jordan and in JRF must be in the immediate future, he's almost 28, now, not a teen anymore, unfortunately, I'm afraid his chance to get a degree has long passed by. PS- I know for a fact he had troubles at Eckerd College in Florida, back in summer '98, all because of a girl, some1 who was also at that college in the '97 and '98 years. She even posted some sexy pix of them on the Net..... Of course, they were soon deleted, I found the link back in May 200, but only the link, no pix- u can't find any link to those pix, now-

I have heard this several times before. Well, I hope those days are long behind him. Now pictures being posted on the internet is a new one. Until you said it, I had never heard that one before. I wouldn't think those pictures would stay up long...I can't believe whomever she was had the audacity to actually put them on the internet in the first place. PAli will be 29 this December, not 28. Thinking ahead is a good thing. One never knows this day in age what could happen. Oh, and it's never too late for him to go back to finish up, or get his degree in something else...at least in the US it's that way...I'm not sure about European schools.

[Lyonnaise]

Just to clarify/confirm, the previous Prince Ali & Rym thread was closed because it had reached 10 pages.

:)

[suria]

ok Shelly .lets stop talking a bout him this way lets stop talking a bout things he did in the past its always bad thing that you talking a bout he is a good person i like him beacuse you can touch the purity in his eyes what you heard a bout him dosent make him bad person and you must be sure of what you saying

maybe prince Ali didnt want to live his life as a prince he hated this position he act naturally but he must be a ware now beacuse many people obviously waiting him to do a mistake even a little one this is his own life and the person who can have this huge love even with the bad things he do desearve only recpect dont you think. i think you know now how much he is a lover prince and this is not beacuse of his mother death but beacuse he is a lover person treat people with love as he is one of them beleive me this is why we love this Prince

[suria]

ok Shelly lets stop talking a bout him this way i wonder how dose he feel if he read that, its alawys bad thing you saying a bout him and you must be sure of what you saying a bout him.

maybe prince Ali didnt want to live his life as a prince he hated that and acted naturally but he must be a ware now beacuse many people stuck with his past and waiting him for a mistake even if its a little. how you want him to sucsses while people like you keep remind us and him of the bad things in his life give him a chance he is a good person.

i love prince Ali not beacuse of his mother death but beacuse of the purity in his eyes we love him beacuse he is a lover person trat people with love as a one of them i think you know now why he has this huge popularity

[abir]

I was reading the above messages about P. Ali, and IF it is true he doesn't have a clear engagement and interest on business or any field that can his country benefit from, so how it can be that Rym (a well educated and from a family who has international engagement) could love him and see him a very interesting man?

[suria]

Originally Posted by abir

I was reading the above messages about P. Ali, and IF it is true he doesn't have a clear engagement and interest on business or any field that can his country benefit from, so how it can be that Rym (a well educated and from a family who has international engagement) could love him and see him a very interesting man?

prince Ali good enough for her i am sure that Rym found in him love and emossion and this make prince Ali speical

[suria]

Rym is going to open the jordanian women football league at 5th on Nov i just read that in the newspaper they saying that she support football play a lot

[sommone]

Originally Posted by abir

I was reading the above messages about P. Ali, and IF it is true he doesn't have a clear engagement and interest on business or any field that can his country benefit from, so how it can be that Rym (a well educated and from a family who has international engagement) could love him and see him a very interesting man?

Still doesn't take away from the other good things about Ali, Abir. We don't know what Rym sees in him, and basically that's just it...only her opinion of him really matters. I'm assuming she loved him, not because of some college degree or lack there of, but for reasons only known to the two of them. I don't think Rym, and I'm assuming the marriage wasn't arranged, would have married him if she didn't find things about him that she liked or loved.

[sommone]

Originally Posted by suria

ok Shelly .lets stop talking a bout him this way lets stop talking a bout things he did in the past its always bad thing that you talking a bout he is a good person i like hi