Prince Albert's Older Children Part 1: 2009 - 2023

[sirhon11234]

I do not know when this photo was taken but its new to me.
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[American Observer7]

He is adorable.
Why is Alexandre using the last name Coste and not Grimaldi? Why is Jazmin using it and Alex is not?

 

[Renata4711]

I think both cases were quite different.
The mother had changed Yasmin's name by adding Grimaldi.

I believe that would not have been possible in the case of Alexandre.

 

[Zonk]

Jazmin was born in the US, and Tamara could and did list Albert on the birth certificate as well as put Grimaldi on it.

LadyMac can confirm.

 

[LadyMacAlpine]

Jazmin was born in the US, and Tamara could and did list Albert on the birth certificate as well as put Grimaldi on it.

LadyMac can confirm.

The birth certificate was posted here in 2006. In many states including CA you can give your child any last name you want as Tamara gave Jazmin the Grimaldi name. About Albert's name being on the birth certificate. Albert had to have agreed to it or she filed a paternity suit which she did (except the case was dismissed) and a DNA tests proved he was the father (which it did) and it was legally added.

The original birth certificate was done March 13, 1992 and was amended May 31, 2006 which is likely when Alberts name was added.

We discussed why Alexandre had the name Coste and not Grimaldi. Nicole wanted to change their names and decided on Coste dropping the La of Lacoste which is Alberts attorneys last name. Alex was born Éric Alexandre Stéphane Tossoukpé. His name was changed to Alexandre Éric Stéphane Coste on November 10, 2004 and Nicole changed her name at the same time. I have to take a guess that Albert wouldn't give permission for Alex to use the Grimaldi last name. Alberts name was added to the birth certificate a few months after he was born.

 

[American Observer7]

Well, there is really no way to know how he treats his kids but I hope he is proud and I hope that he loves them and shows them that and that it does not matter to him how they came to be because it not their fault but his and their mothers.

I also hope Prince Albert at least called Jazmin before her graduation from high school to congragulate her etc and maybe they talked about it before and it was agreed that it would best that he not attend. I hope he does attend the ceremony when she finishes college.

And who knows, the two could have a great and close relationship and the public just does not know it. I hope that is the case actually.

 

[American Observer7]

According to Tamara's father Jazmin was invited and attended the religious ceremony of the wedding event. Here is the article: Monaco Royal wedding: Prince Albert and Charlene Wittstock's uneasy kiss | Mail Online

 

[FanofMonaco]

Isn't the Daily Mail a tabloid and not very reliable?

 

[Renata4711]

The Mail is definitely a tabloid, specialising in celeb reporting.
It's having a field day because of the riot coverage...

A typical headline: "Cuddling in the kennels? Affair claim as vet's assistant drops sex harassment case against her boss."
Or: "Wilderness, water and 400 SEX DOLLS: Russia hosts worlds weirdest river race"

I trust you get the picture .....

 

[NGalitzine]

According to Tamara's father Jazmin was invited and attended the religious ceremony of the wedding event. Here is the article: Monaco Royal wedding: Prince Albert and Charlene Wittstock's uneasy kiss | Mail Online

He used words such as "I believe" and "I think" when referring to her attendance at the wedding, so nothing definitive there.
The Mail also said Sarkozy and Carla attended the civil wedding which is not true. The President attended the religious service but Carla was nowhere to be seen. They also referred to the Princes Palace as the Presidential Palace so I would not take this artice as gospel.

 

[American Observer7]

Understood. Thanks everyone. I was hoping this MIGHT be true. Ya know I understand not inviting or having Alexandre there as he is only seven but Jazmin is a grown woman and can make her own decisions--- she can deal!

If he excluded her without consulting her, then that says something about him and it's not at all good. He should have been proud to have his super smart and pretty daughter there IF he did not consult her first that is.

 

[rominet09]

If Jazmin had been there the journalists would have noticed immediately and it would have stolen the bride and groom thunder !

 

[American Observer7]

I just saw some video footage and I think there is a picture of Prince Albert holding Jazmin has a toddler and him giving her a kiss. He knew about Jazmin and that she was his long before she was 12 and 14.

 

[Renata4711]

American Observer, I remember that occasion where Tamara held her daughter up to PA when she was still a baby.

 

[LadyMacAlpine]

American Observer, I remember that occasion where Tamara held her daughter up to PA when she was still a baby.

This photo that was posted 9-29-05 by me is one of several. She followed him to Cody, WY trying to get him to acknowledge Jazmin.

 

[Renata4711]

That must have been embarrassing for all concerned .....

 

[American Observer7]

I just hope Prince Albert is making the effort and calling her to say hello, checking in etc and not ignoring Jazmin.

 

[Zonk]

I just hope Prince Albert is making the effort and calling her to say hello, checking in etc and not ignoring Jazmin.

Honestly we might never know unless the parties involved (Albert and/or Jazmin) decide to let us know. And really its none of our business.

Jazmin could have been born in better circumstances (marriage, recognized from birth, heir to Monaco) and even with all of that she could be ignored in the Palace. For all intents and purposes, from what we know, she had a happy childhood with a mother who loved her, unlike many kids in the world, she has had food, a roof over her head and a secure childhood.

 

[American Observer7]

Honestly we might never know unless the parties involved (Albert and/or Jazmin) decide to let us know. And really its none of our business.

Jazmin could have been born in better circumstances (marriage, recognized from birth, heir to Monaco) and even with all of that she could be ignored in the Palace. For all intents and purposes, from what we know, she had a happy childhood with a mother who loved her, unlike many kids in the world, she has had food, a roof over her head and a secure childhood.

You are right Zonk. And if he is not making the effort or not enough of one, then it is Prince Albert who is losing here. From what I have read Jazmin is an awesome young lady and the Prince has every reason to be proud of her and he should be. And he needs to show that if he is not doing so now.

 

[Zonk]

Exactly.

If Albert chooses not to be a part of his children's life than its his loss. It bothers me to know end those parents who choose NOT to be a part of their children's life because of money, busy schedule or whatever. Just as it annoys me for those parents who because of parental alienation can't see their kids. Unless of course, they haven't bonded or clicked. It happens...not everyone is paternal or maternal.

Either way, Albert doesn't have to show us anything regarding his kids.

 

[smdouglas]

You are right Zonk. And if he is not making the effort or not enough of one, then it is Prince Albert who is losing here. From what I have read Jazmin is an awesome young lady and the Prince has every reason to be proud of her and he should be. And he needs to show that if he is not doing so now.

We have no idea how much time/love PA has with his children (especially since he's defined this area as "personal"). So why are we speculating what he does or doesn't do with regard to his children?

I have little doubt that Jazmin and Alexandre are great kids with wonderful potential, but - because their relationship with their father is private - how does speculation about this area make PA any better or worse?

 

[Renata4711]

I think we need to differentiate between Alexandre (a minor) and Jasmin who is not.

She is an adult who can make her own decisions, especially about her career and future life, and she can deal with both her parents as an adult.

I'm almost wondering whether these two human beings should not each have a thread of their own.

 

[iceflower]

I'm almost wondering whether these two human beings should not each have a thread of their own.

That's exactly the point: we once had two seperated threads, but as it's by now discussed over and over again:
these two children/young people are living a private life we hardly know anything about and shouldn't constantly
speculate about. One thread is enough, it's a concession to the general interest, but we should respect the desired
privacy and reduce it to the essential.

 

[American Observer7]

We have no idea how much time/love PA has with his children (especially since he's defined this area as "personal"). So why are we speculating what he does or doesn't do with regard to his children?

I have little doubt that Jazmin and Alexandre are great kids with wonderful potential, but - because their relationship with their father is private - how does speculation about this area make PA any better or worse?

Every relationship is personal in this respect. However, many of us are curious and concerned because of the circumstances surrounding their births. Being private because of it is understandable but being hidden is something else all together different.

 

[Zonk]

But who (other than yourself) says that they are being hidden?

Alexandre is a young child, what other children his age do you see a lot in print (other than Suri Cruise). You only see the young royals of Denmark, the Netherlands, and Norway, etc. on special events or arranged photo sessions. You didn't see William while he was in college. Nor Victoria, Frederick or WA except when they were snapped by paps or again in planned sessions.

They are private individuals and deserve a bit of privacy.

 

[KittyAtlanta]

Why, in our current society --- going back to the 60's, is Albert portrayed as a cad? This has happened to millions of men and women, some who accept the responsibility and some who don't. Albert said he would take care of the children and appears to have done so since the paternity tests. When Jazmin was born, DNA tests were not reliable. When the tests became more reliable, Albert took the test -- both times -- and does not seem to have shirked his duty to them. I'm sure he took care of Jazmin and her mother without proof of paternity simply because of probability. That says a lot, to me anyway.

As for them being in the public eye, Jazmin can decide for herself. She is an adult. Alex has a few more years to go, but not that many. He can decide at that time.

 

[American Observer7]

Why, in our current society --- going back to the 60's, is Albert portrayed as a cad? This has happened to millions of men and women, some who accept the responsibility and some who don't. Albert said he would take care of the children and appears to have done so since the paternity tests. When Jazmin was born, DNA tests were not reliable. When the tests became more reliable, Albert took the test -- both times -- and does not seem to have shirked his duty to them. I'm sure he took care of Jazmin and her mother without proof of paternity simply because of probability. That says a lot, to me anyway.

As for them being in the public eye, Jazmin can decide for herself. She is an adult. Alex has a few more years to go, but not that many. He can decide at that time.

I agree with everything you have said. I just would like to see Jazmin hanging out with her dad.

 

[MARG]

Despite what you want, it is what Jazmin wants that counts and if she doesn't want to go on Oprah and tell the world the intimate details of her conception, birth, and everything that came between then and now then that is her choice.

She is not a piece of meat, she is not property, she is a young woman with a mind and a life of her own,

Respect her choices!

 

[American Observer7]

Despite what you want, it is what Jazmin wants that counts and if she doesn't want to go on Oprah and tell the world the intimate details of her conception, birth, and everything that came between then and now then that is her choice.

She is not a piece of meat, she is not property, she is a young woman with a mind and a life of her own,

Respect her choices!

MARG:

Now, you are overreacting and you have gone too far. No one has called Jazmin a piece of meat or property. I have a right to my opinions and thoughts. There is not a thing wrong with saying I would like to see her spending with her dad. I am a sucker for family.

And you don't know what her choices are! And no one tells me what to do.

 

[KittyAtlanta]

I understand that you are a sucker for family. However, for whatever reason, this is more blood than family. I know from experience.