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Old 08-01-2010, 06:32 PM
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Let's kill the illegtimate talk...we know Albert and Tamara were not married when Jazmin was conceived.

For the record, Monaco has a history of children born out of wedlock who have had a role in Monaco, so anything is possible.
I can understand and accept that most people mean no harm when they use the term "illegitimate" to describe out-of-wedlock children, but it still makes me cringe...it seems to be branding the innocent children for the irresponsibilities of their parents.

Wasn't Rainier's mother Charlotte born out of wedlock?
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Old 08-01-2010, 11:21 PM
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I think if Albert and Charlene ever have kids they can be discussed on e.g. PA and Charlene family events or something along those lines.
Oops, I've just seen Natalie_Cox made similar suggestion.
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Old 08-02-2010, 10:01 AM
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I can understand and accept that most people mean no harm when they use the term "illegitimate" to describe out-of-wedlock children, but it still makes me cringe...it seems to be branding the innocent children for the irresponsibilities of their parents.

Wasn't Rainier's mother Charlotte born out of wedlock?
Yes-I believe she was. She was later adopted by Prince Louis, legitimatizing her (back when that was legal in Monaco, before the 2002 changes), placing her (and her decedents) in line for the throne. she gave up her rights to the throne in favor of her son in 1944 (on his 21st birthday, 5 years before the death of her father).
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A shadow of doubt exists over the legality of this adoption. The Monegasque Civil Code (Articles 240 and 243) required that the adopting party to be at least fifty and the adoptee twenty-one. The 1918 Ordinance changed the age limit to eighteen (Charlotte was twenty at the time) but not the other age limit and Louis was only 48.
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Old 08-02-2010, 10:48 AM
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Yes-I believe she was. She was later adopted by Prince Louis, legitimatizing her (back when that was legal in Monaco, before the 2002 changes), placing her (and her decedents) in line for the throne. she gave up her rights to the throne in favor of her son in 1944 (on his 21st birthday, 5 years before the death of her father).
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A shadow of doubt exists over the legality of this adoption. The Monegasque Civil Code (Articles 240 and 243) required that the adopting party to be at least fifty and the adoptee twenty-one. The 1918 Ordinance changed the age limit to eighteen (Charlotte was twenty at the time) but not the other age limit and Louis was only 48.
Albert I had Louis adopt her so there wouldn't be any doubts. If there was doubt you would think France would have taken over Monaco and not allowed it to become an independent country.
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Old 08-02-2010, 11:18 AM
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Albert I had Louis adopt her so there wouldn't be any doubts. If there was doubt you would think France would have taken over Monaco and not allowed it to become an independent country.

Like I said-it was from Wikipedia, not actually my own words.
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Old 08-02-2010, 12:04 PM
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Like I said-it was from Wikipedia, not actually my own words.
wiki is not always accurate. However, I think that was then and this is now. The rules have changed and out of wedlock children are no longer eligible to be in line for the throne.
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Old 08-02-2010, 07:45 PM
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Prince Alexandre of Monaco .::. Prince Alexandre de Monaco

Has anybody mentioned this ? Interesting to see Nicole Coste's ideas for her son.
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Old 08-02-2010, 07:49 PM
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^I hope THAT PAGE has nothing to do with Nicole Coste...

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This thread...i'm wondering, if Albert and Charlene have kids, this thread will be named as it is currently?
Because if they have kids, one day there will be a thread for their kids such as "Prince Albert and Family Current Events" or "Prince/ss ........ current events" and what will happen to this thread name? I mean, this thread will be use to discuss his children with Tamara and Nicole and there will be another one for his "princely" children?
And i quote myself because i would like to read an answer, please...
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Old 08-02-2010, 08:38 PM
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When I see that picture and the others I always think, what a handsome little boy.
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Prince Alexandre of Monaco .::. Prince Alexandre de Monaco

Has anybody mentioned this ? Interesting to see Nicole Coste's ideas for her son.
Oh dear!! I wish people would not set up websites. He's a handsome little boy who deserves to have his privacy. Thanks for finding this for us.
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I hope Nicole Coste did not set this site up. She is playing with fire. It's obvious that she is only thinking of herself and not what is best for the Monegasques.
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FanofMonaco...how can you say in one sentence you hope she did not set up the website and then say she is paying with fire? Do you know something we don't?
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He is a lovely child, but he is not a prince. Whomever set that up has no real feeling for the exposure this gives this child. Certainly, the child should not be branded with "illigitimate", but he is not going to fall in the line of succession, nor is he going to be a "prince". Charles II of England had many "out of wedlock" children, but they weren't princes. There are dozens of "secret" children roaming about, so to speak, but they don't carry these titles. Not that that matters.
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That web site has been around for some time and posted here a few times.
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Old 08-02-2010, 09:18 PM
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That web site has been around for some time and posted here a few times.
And really, anyone can set up a website and have no personal relationship with the subject. I can set up a site and say I am Charlene.
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I am saying that if she did set it up she is playing with fire. I know nothing about who created that website.
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That website is so old. It not funny.
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By posting about this and other Alexandre websites, we are giving them publicity !!
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Old 08-03-2010, 10:41 PM
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Prince Alexandre of Monaco .::. Prince Alexandre de Monaco

Has anybody mentioned this ? Interesting to see Nicole Coste's ideas for her son.
Who on Earth put that together?? Are we certain it was Nicole Coste? If so, she comes off as quite a piece of work!

The boy is lovely. His resemblance to Prince Albert is strong and striking.
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I have not had a chance to read all the postings to this thread, but has anyone heard of Prince Albert's children possibly inheriting any type of royal title? I know they are not eligible for the throne, but could they possibly be recognized by title, if they wanted to?
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