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Old 05-09-2011, 04:53 PM
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Albert knows what it means to be a lonely bachelor.
He still doesn't know what it means to be a lonely man with ring on his finger.

While he can change the first situation every second he will be trapped for lifetime if he doesn't have the balls to say "no" one time.

He has nothing to gain but everything to loose right now I think.
To understand that would be an achivement.
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Old 05-09-2011, 05:21 PM
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No one is trapped for a life time. Besides who are you to say what will be good or not good for him?
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Old 05-09-2011, 05:49 PM
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Let's stay on topic.

This thread has nothing to do with Albert's personal life.
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Old 05-09-2011, 07:02 PM
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I think we are forgetting PA's most recent major achievement - that of acquiring a life partner, in the shape of Charlene Wittstock.

Long overdue as it may be, he has finally put in place this vital piece of the Monaco jigsaw - a Princess.

From a Monaco which was somewhat tarnished by rumours of money laundering and alleged dodgy dealings with oligarchs, PA, with the help of his team, has drawn a line under most of these, and he has turned the Principality from an economic pariah state into a - largely - respectable and respected mini-state.

PA has also managed to play the "environment" card by launching his own environmental charity, the "Fondation Prince Albert II de Monaco" (FPA). In addition, he has become part of a world-wide network of environmental scientists and other practitioners in this field.

He has also created / extended the network of ambassadorial and consular relationships, begun by his father, and not entirely complete.

So far, so good ......

Can any of you add more "feathers" in Albert's cap ??
I agree, financial reforms, international recognition on the enviromental front, expansion and increase in level of diplomatic relations.....seems pretty good for a guy who has been on the throne for just 6 years. Monaco seems to be going quite nicely under his reign. Later this year the prinicpality can look forward to a new Princess Consort and hopefully in a year or so a new heir to the throne.
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Old 05-10-2011, 02:26 AM
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Albert had some achievements at the environmental and diplomatical level.

But the economical situation of Monaco is far from being good: these days budget cuts had been announced, there were strikes in the Casino, SMB is struggling no sign of recovery - the economic boom Charlene and the wedding should bring turned out quite a flop. A 7 Mio Euro flop.

Environmental protection: Albert did remarkable work in that field. And still does.
However: While he was not engaged this was noticable in the media.
After the engagement media are fucused on "CW looks like Grace!" and "Charlene Wittstock want's to modernize Monaco opening Starbucks shops and Manolo Blahnik shoe stores!"
... while Albert intelligently stated to euronews: "We have to stop consumerism." Nobody noticed? Nobody remembers?
Exactly that's what I want to say: Albert will have less media coverage and less credibility as "Green Prince" after Monaco's new flagship declared she want's to modernize the principality by OPENING MORE SHOPS
And this will go on as long as CW is around and associated with him.

There was a image campain planned and prepared for Monaco before CW was announced Monaco's new Flagship. A campain that highlighted the assets of MONACO: Principaut de Monaco

This image campain had good chances to bring positive impact for Monaco. But who knows the website and who knows about the campain?

This image campain was "highjacked" by some adivsors to Albert to promote Charlene Wittstock and bound her to the image of Monaco.

Now the image that is promoted is:
Not "Monaco a place for people with brain power and education":
Charlene Wittstock is a high school drop out and THE ONLY figure media highlight after the engagement. She lived five years in Monaco and did not finish school or get at least a bachelor title. (With bachelor I don't mean Albert.) Monaco a place for studied people Nobody believes as long as CW is First Lady.

Not "Monaco as melting pot of cultures and languages": CW cried to TATLER that people in Monaco don't understand her S.A. humor - BRAVO

Not "Monaco as place of history that want's to beware local culture":
CW being asked what will be the first thing she does after becoming Princess of Monaco:
"I wan't to dicsover France!!!" (In broken French- the local language!)

Not "Monaco as melting pot of cultures and languages":
CW didn't manage to learn French IN FIVE YEARS and complains about locals IN PUBLIC.

Monaco has assets and Albert is an intelligent man. The team that prepared the first image campain's contend did good work. There was chance to have success.

BUT IT DIDN'T AND WON'T WORK but only backfire...
BECAUSE Charlene Witstock is the complete opposite of Monaco's original image campain!

It's like a man who has something to say to the world (Albert) enteres the stage (Monaco) to held a brilliant speech.
And shortly before he switches on the mikrophone someone puts him a red clown nose on (CW).

Everything he says and does will be for nothing. The best ideas, the best projects, the best campain.

DE-COUPLE Monaco and Charlene Wittstock! She is not the saviour but the ICEBERG Monaco will hit July 2.

THAT would be an achivment. Albert started so well but then came CW...
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Old 05-10-2011, 05:33 AM
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Margarita, you have made several important points, especially about the environment and the overall image of Monaco.

Sadly, many people who follow the Monaco Saga, aren't necessarily interested in PA's "green" credentials, and especially not in consulates, embassies or state visits.

They tend to be interested in juicy tidbits of gossip and speculation - remember how people were positively salivating when PA had to out his illegitimate children ??

People like you and I may read this kind of stuff, but it pales into insignificance compared with the overall marvel and microcosmos that is Monaco !!
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Old 05-10-2011, 05:58 PM
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MargaritaII, how can you say Monaco's economy is in bad shape? They have the highest gross national income per person in the world; around $200,000 per person compared to about $40,000 per person in the US. I am guessing Russia is much lower than the US. They have had zero unemployment for decades. More French people work in Monaco than Monaco has residents. They have run yearly budget deficits the last 3 or 4 years but it makes sense to spend money updating infrastucture while tourism is down. Unlike most countries in the world they have a National Surplus, not a deficit. That's what intrigues me about Monaco. They have basically no assets and are only 2 square kilometers but have been able to outperform everyone else on a per capita basis. Oh and don't forget they have a 99% literacy rate, universal health care, world class performing arts and world class sports. Their people live very well.

And those striking croupiers are the highest paid on the Riviera.
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Old 05-10-2011, 07:06 PM
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Despite all that, Monaco's Minister of State Michel Roger has decided today that the Principality has to tighten its belt.
Monaco : L'Etat va se serrer la ceinture
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Old 05-10-2011, 10:26 PM
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Yes, I saw that too. It just means they take their responsibilities seriously. That's why thay don't have the problems of other countries. They use common sense.
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Old 05-11-2011, 05:19 AM
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So.... to come back to the topic of this thread .... would you say that PA has achieved anything of value - lasting or otherwise ?
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Old 05-12-2011, 03:18 AM
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I don't think we can really answer that question honestly until Albert's reign is over and he is no longer with us, only then can we judge the scope of the man's impact as sovereign.

On that score, I think Prince Rainier III's 55 year reign as sovereign ranks up there as one of the very best, if not thee best. What he did during his reign of power is remarkable, the least of which was to marry the movie star Grace Kelly and turn everything to gold, she alone put Monaco on the map. Her presence is still felt today, most recently in the British Royal Wedding, wherein her timeless classic wedding dress was the first thing people noted when they saw Kate Middleton's.

That said, I also feel that Charles III was also greatly influential, being the original founder of the famous casino in Monte Carlo, at the same time maintaining a strong marriage, the same way his great-grandson, Prince Rainier III, did.
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Old 05-12-2011, 03:42 AM
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In the modern era, I would also rank Prince Pierre who was a respected member of the Grimaldi clan. Otherwise, the Fondation Prince Pierre would not have endured half a century or so.
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Old 05-12-2011, 05:04 AM
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I've just noticed that I have not included the Olympics in my "list" of PA's achievements.
Whatever one may feel about PA, he seems genuinely interested in the whole Olympic idea, and he probably does not treat them as a rich man's plaything.
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Old 05-12-2011, 11:19 AM
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PA has heard stories about his grandfather and Uncle Kell since birth. People forget, besides the medals, Kell was made President of the US Olympic committee. Quite an honor. Unfortunately, he died 2 weeks after his appointment. PA takes his Olympic job very seriously. He also did respectably for a little country with no snow as a bobsledder.
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Old 05-12-2011, 03:23 PM
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Well said, FanofMonaco :-)) I had forgotten about the lack of snow....

You're right of course ... to be President of the US Olympic committee must indeed be a great honour - I hadn't seen it from that perspective. I suppose I thought of it as having to attend lots of meetings to far-flung places.

You being American, how does being President of the US IOC compare with being President of the USA ?
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Old 05-12-2011, 10:40 PM
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President of USA is definitely the tougher job, but Americans expect their Olympians to win lots of medals. We put tremendous pressure on our Olympic President and the athletes. The press is brutal. The women figure skaters are considered failures if they win a silver medal. This winter though something changed. The press got much nicer and I think we won the most medals ever during the winter. Summer is our forte. Some new training center opened in Salt Lake City, Utah and it sounds like they may work on the mental aspect of sports. I also noticed for the first time that the Olympics itself started pushing the idea of personal bests rather than medals. There was also alot of complaining because Chicago didn't get the next summer Olympics. In fact , we came in last in the final round. I was very happy for Rio and S. America because it's their first time to host an Olympics in S. America. I think the USA has probably hosted more Olympics than any other country so we shouldn't complain. The gossip is that S. Africa may get the next summer Olympics. That would be a first for Africa and mean that every continent will have hosted at least one Olympics.
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Old 05-12-2011, 11:12 PM
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Not to take anything from Kell's accomplishments...but being President of the USOC now is a lot different than it was 20, 30 or 50 years ago.

Now its like being a CEO of a major international company. As FanofMonaco stated, we expect a lot. Its a big budget and we (Americans) expect a big return in regards to medals. A couple of the former USOC Presidents have gone on to run for political offices and major corporations. Its a very prestigious job.

That being said, it says a lot that a Kelly also held the position.

Yes, Monaco does have a great presence in the Olympics to be such a small country. And Albert certainly had a lot to do with that. I keep forgetting that they have no snow!
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Old 05-13-2011, 07:14 AM
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Thanks to both of you. I'm in Scotland which has 5 million inhabitants :->
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One thing I would like to add is that the US Olympic Committee receives no government funds. It is totally privately funded.
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Old 05-14-2011, 05:34 AM
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I just read the PA wedding thread, and it occurred to me that, in terms of the Olympics, the "Royal" Princess Anne is on the same level as the "only Serene" Prince of Monaco.

How much "clout" does PA have, compared to Princess Anne?
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