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Old 06-13-2010, 02:47 PM
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Albert keep avoiding the talk of marriage when i was in Monaco i was hoping to see him walk by or so but he was barely in the country, i think not that many people get to see him because he travel non stop the only time he is around is event or parties i think for ones people would expect him to be involve instead of just the title in fact i am so confuse about their life since the media is so much into their life it become a show off or a shown and tell i think and know the people would love it if Charlene show interested about the people or get involve in charity that they have in Monaco that does not include a red carpet parties she can do swimming coach for kids etc when i was there even through it was a vacation i joint my friends that live there on a charity event working with kids in the hospital etc she can do that to welcoming her way in because even though the media like her but the people will not feel the same because they have wait for a long time after grace to get someone that they can feel alright about it and if she not going to at least show some compassion and dignity they will give her hell because Monaco is more than five stars hotel,parties, etc there is so much more in that tiny country she should know by now she have been there for more than three years there should be no excuse
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Old 06-13-2010, 05:58 PM
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Well this is how I would feel if I was in my homeland or close by with the Prince after so long; I would say that I have had enough of running after you into Monaco and everwhere else and I would appreciate it if you go and see my parents to spell out your intentions because I did not fall out of a tree or else I am going to go as I cannot run around the globe without a commitment. period full stop.And then I would stop chasing PA back into MOnaco if he said no to my parents and marriage . I would then find a dentist in the suburbs, marry, have five children and live happily ever after.
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Old 06-13-2010, 08:09 PM
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So you are saying 2 adults cannot be in a committed relationship without benefit of clergy, a tiara on her head and the Order of St Charles across her shoulders?
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Old 06-13-2010, 08:21 PM
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So you are saying 2 adults cannot be in a committed relationship without benefit of clergy, a tiara on her head and the Order of St Charles across her shoulders?
Mmm, I have to agree with you. I don't think there needs to be any kind of formal ceremony to put a seal on a relationship. I respect couples who don't need a third party to tell them their relationship is sacred (to them anyway). That's what I mean when I talk about letting what is be. Why do that have to get married? I don't see it as Albert's duty to marry Charlene. If keeping their relationship as it is is good for them, then what's wrong with that? I think you have a point about Albert dragging her along but I don't think she's the victim. She quite probably wants it to be that way. I can't imagine she has no say in her own relationship.
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Old 06-13-2010, 10:07 PM
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I have to agree - I don't believe there needs to be any kind of marriage ceremony for them to have a committed relationship. I do find that on this forum everyone thinks that Charlene is desperately waiting for marriage because she is dating a prince. In this day and age we don't presume that all women want to be married so why should this apply if people are dating royalty. She could be very happy in her relationship and be the person in the couple who does not want marriage so that she keeps the freedom she has and avoids even more comparison with Princess Grace than she already gets. Obviously this is just my opinion as I am aware there are a lot of people on this forum who would disagree with my feeling in relation to this.
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Old 06-14-2010, 08:23 AM
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Well said, KathL, and I'm one of those who WOULD agree with you.
Why does everyone HAVE to get married ???
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Old 06-14-2010, 06:43 PM
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Everybody don't have to get marry. But royal do. To keep they bloodline going.
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Old 06-14-2010, 06:50 PM
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Everybody don't have to get marry. But royal do. To keep they bloodline going.
To keep the bloodline going and as a sign of respect and a good example! What happened to the good old-fashioned days.
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Old 06-14-2010, 07:27 PM
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So you are saying 2 adults cannot be in a committed relationship without benefit of clergy, a tiara on her head and the Order of St Charles across her shoulders?
Then what is the difference between them and very other commoner Tom Dick and Harry in the West with a couple of children out of wedlock, many broken relationships and a disability when it comes to facing the spiritual aspects of the covenant marriage. Are you saying that two adults cannot decide to form a family with one to wear a tiara and the order of ST. Charles while also having the spiritual blessings that make marriage a covenant? Are you saying the cannot have the highest ideal and denominators as they set the example?In a committed relationship they eat sleep drink sharing the pseudo connubial bed and defecate. They share worldy aspects of life that have to do with materiality and not spirituality.For one of the two parties who has a "calling" as Prince that has no bearing in the spiritual aspects of the mantle of purple and the definition of that nobility.It negates it.Callings are not subject to revisionism.
What is being said is that Pa and Cw can share a committed relationship without marriage forever.The impediment here is the lack of spirituality... too much food and song and good times... It isn't about tiaras .It is about all else physical.Marriage is also a rite of passage and one anticipates having a family and sealing that covenant without just hanging out together until hell freezes over.
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So you are saying without spirituality (by which I am assuming you mean a religious service) that a couples relationship cannot be valid or committed. Well I can think of a long list of people who would disagree with that. I can also think of an equally long list of people who went through the "spiritual" recognition of their relationship and that did not hold them together. Spirituality means different things to different people and does not necessarily require a blessing by a priest to make them regard their relationship as committed.
In the 21st century both princes and commoners can live with their partners without benefit of clergy, some go on to marry in civil or religious services others do not. Some last some don't, neither comes with a guarantee. Neither choice makes their committments to each other any less valid than the other. Some people want children others do not or cannot. People make choices in their personal lives based on what they think will make them happy. I would not expect a man, even a sovereign prince, to marry simply because it was "expected by tradition" if that was not what he wanted. This would be especially true of a man who had seen the marital troubles of his siblings and other relations.

Albert and Charlene will continue to live their lives as they see fit, and I have no problem with that. I am sure if they decide to change the status of their relationship, one way or the other, they will let us all know.
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Old 06-14-2010, 10:06 PM
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Lola Montez nearly brought down a government and a dynasty, the above lady does keep the sales of Hello magazine up though.
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To keep the bloodline going and as a sign of respect and a good example! What happened to the good old-fashioned days.
The succession is already assured so no fear of it dying out for at least another generation.
Who would this good example be set for? People who already make similar choices in their private lives. The Church has lost its moral high ground already. Fewer people are chosing a religious blessing for their marriages, and legally it is a civil service that is required not the optional religious one.
The 19th century is long gone, welcome to the 21st.
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Old 06-14-2010, 10:54 PM
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I think that people like to see a prince with a woman who shares his title as well as his private life. I don't know much about Albert and Charlene, but I do understand why there are people who would like to see them married. We are more secular than we used to be, granted; but there's something about marriage makes a relationship committed on a public level as well as on a private one. Human nature doesn't change, and marriage is recognized all over the world.
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Enough. I have deleted some unnecessary posts.

Albert and Charlene are engaged.

Can we at least enjoy the day without the nastiness, I told you so, she isn't Grace, what about Caroline, etc.

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Old 06-23-2010, 01:24 PM
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They are a lovely couple. A lifetime of happiness to them.
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Old 06-23-2010, 02:56 PM
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Zonk is right. This is a positive story - at last! And not just a fairy story, but REAL LIFE.

I, for one, would like it if we could avoid the PADLOCK being put on our conversations !

The forums are much more fun without bitching or similar.

And I suspect that many of us are finally released from the "Will he? won't he? see-saw.
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Old 06-23-2010, 04:35 PM
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I wish them all happiness!!!
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Old 06-24-2010, 05:18 AM
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Call me a hopeless romantic, but I am so very happy with this news. I had my reservations about Charlene, but she has won me over. Other than the bride, she was the most stunning female I saw at Princess Victoria's wedding...she already looks every inch a Princess.

And yes...I absolutely agree with the poster who said thank goodness the "will he, won't he" guessing game has ENDED!!
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Old 06-24-2010, 04:15 PM
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Absolutely, I feel this is great news.
She looked stunning at Victoria's wedding and handled herself quite well.
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Princess Grace, Prince Reiner and Monaco

Part One: Princess Grace did not put Monace on the Map. Prior to the 1st and 2nd World Wars Monaco was a Holiday Day Resort for the rich and famous and powerful including King George & Queen Mary of England, Germany's Kaiser and their royal group, King of Egypt, The Tsar & Tsarina of Russia and their families, king of Lybia, Italy, Greese, Romania, all the Grand Dukes & Duchess, Lest I forget The American Barrons. The Rockerfellas, Belmont, Vanderbilts, Andrew Carnegie, the Astors and many more I must mention the big time gamblers and also the crooks.
At dinner at the fabulas Hotes it was mandatory for women to wear evening gowns adorned with jewelries while the men were decked off in their evening attire. GLAMOUR & CLASS were in the superlative. Then came the First World War. When it was over the era of Silk Stocking, Corset and Fine Manners began to ebb. Kings and Queens were dethroned, Republic were formed The Tsar of Russia and his family were killed. Other kings were assasinated. The Roaring 20s & 30s were gone forever.As a new dawn came and countries including Monace were rebuilding. Hitler and the 2nd World War emerged and when this catastropy was over. Monaco like other countries turned the page to a New Chapter. Prince Reiner was young dashing and needed a wife that will bring BACK ATTENTION to Monaco (Marlyn Monroe )was suggested. Princess Grace was in the right place at the right time. Please stay tuned for Part 2
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