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Old 08-23-2009, 09:39 PM
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They might be just good buddies having fun together.
And if that's the way they like it, there's nothing at all wrong with that.
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Exactly.
Obviously, respect for one another is a good thing. But I haven't seen any pictures where PA or CW are being disrespectful to each other. On the contrary, the pictures from their stay on Caroline's yacht speak of tenderness.

I hope they will have fun together for as long as they want.
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Old 09-26-2009, 05:29 AM
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The church for one. Rainier specifically stated so in the way he structured the constitution. Other than that, it's Albert who has said he has no plans to marry. Caroline and Stephanie can not stop Albert from anything so if you want to place blame, then it's rests on Albert's shoulders. You are entitled to your opinion of Charlene, but she is uneducated and brings nothing to the table. She is also uncultured and Grace spent a lifetime bringing the arts to Monaco. Caroline has furthered her Mother's dream. If Charlene marries Albert, it will fall to Charlene to continue it. With no background at all, all that Grace wanted for Monaco will be lost. If what you ment by modern is just prancing in front of cameras and the photo op, then I guess you are right Charlene is very modern. JMO
You could be right but I hope it all falls into place nicely. I was looking at recent photos and can see that Charlene's not as rusty as she used to be and she is dressing much better (well she did originally dress well but didn't choose dresses that flattered her and now she does). Perhaps as she gets used to the Monaco scene she'll end up every bit as cultured as Princess Grace. I'm sure that if she is serious about her boyfriend then she would be eagerly learning every day. Also, Charlene may add to the sporting culture as she is/was an olympic swimmer .
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Old 10-27-2009, 08:56 AM
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You could be right but I hope it all falls into place nicely. I was looking at recent photos and can see that Charlene's not as rusty as she used to be and she is dressing much better (well she did originally dress well but didn't choose dresses that flattered her and now she does). Perhaps as she gets used to the Monaco scene she'll end up every bit as cultured as Princess Grace. I'm sure that if she is serious about her boyfriend then she would be eagerly learning every day. Also, Charlene may add to the sporting culture as she is/was an olympic swimmer .
Let us all agree that P-A is taking his time to see what this woman CAN do for the image of Monaco and what she might bring to the table of her own incentive? He, in the mean time, is having fun. I, personally, think he is waiting until he passes 53, the age his mother died, to get married and have legitimate children. It could be a psychological thing, but it looks that way. Her death really shocked him.
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Old 10-27-2009, 02:43 PM
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I wonder why Charlene is still with prince Albert? What is interesting in him? Character? For me he's "immature bald big boy" but as a Prince of Monaco I think he's not so bad. Love is blind.

Honestly, I've always wonder what women sees in prince Albert becouse when I compare him with Grand Duke Henri or Prince of Lichtenstein who are in their 50' he doesn't seem to be atractive. Grand Duke Henri is 54, has 5 children, sweet lovely wife and he's so sexy and interesting man!

But maybe prince Albert is just good person and only press shows him in bad colours. We'll never know.
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I wonder why Charlene is still with prince Albert? What is interesting in him? Character? For me he's "immature bald big boy" but as a Prince of Monaco I think he's not so bad. Love is blind.

Honestly, I've always wonder what women sees in prince Albert becouse when I compare him with Grand Duke Henri or Prince of Lichtenstein who are in their 50' he doesn't seem to be atractive. Grand Duke Henri is 54, has 5 children, sweet lovely wife and he's so sexy and interesting man!

But maybe prince Albert is just good person and only press shows him in bad colours. We'll never know.
Love is blind but the possibility of position and status clear sighted. Many have loathed money but few have loathed glory. The relationship confounds in some aspects ; but it thrives with Cw in Monaco and at Pa's side and we are really unaware of the inner functionings of it.
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:12 PM
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"Inmature bald big boy" hahaha, I love that sentence, but poor Prince Albert.
I agree with Jaya, the position of status seems to be more powerful than love...
However, I think Charlene knows that she will be just his girlfriend but never the bride, but as long as she has the benefits a fiancée has (as we see she has) it must not be a problem for her.
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Old 11-03-2009, 10:55 PM
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I don't agree that Prince Albert is an immature bald big boy. His worst character trait IMHO appears to have been womanizing (like many wealthy men in the jet set) but he seems well over that now days. Let's hope Charlene and Albert marry and live happily ever after. Why is she still with him? He's an excellent provider for one thing. Whether there is real love there depends on how he pulls her strings.
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Old 11-04-2009, 12:33 AM
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Last year reports had me taking the bait again and I really thought there was going to be wedding bells from the palace, but having been fooled again I'm now more of the opinion that if it hasn't happened by now it isn't going to. That's fine, Princess Caroline is probably the only one who would be disappointed by it, and I personally will be rather side to see the line of Rainier III pass into history, but it's getting harder and harder for me to realistically see Albert II marrying and having children at this point. I will also disagree with what some have posted around here and say that, while he's certainly not an old man he's also certainly not a young man anymore either. I am a little sad about it, and disappointed by some of his romantic antics, but he has also not had to endure a failed marriage like his sisters which would be alot harder on him as sovereign prince in any event.
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I have to say I do not begrudge Albert his "freedom". He had to wait for it a long time. People often make the comparison between Prince Charles who will become King at a time when he may be too old to enjoy his status, and Prince Albert who is still young enough to enjoy his.
PA could easily be Prince for, say, another 30 years - who knows... and I say, Good luck to him!
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Old 11-04-2009, 05:44 PM
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Quite an interesting read on the different views and forays into Ye Olde Mysterious One. We absolutely do not know what, where or when in this relationship or any other with the Prince.

I distinctly remember his saying in 2005 that he was going to have a "modern reign". He hasn't, as far as I know let us know the definition of that. So there you are. He certainly seems to be doing His Way, as the song goes.

I've decided to just not be anxious, he's the Man in Charge. And as far as having a direct heir, I guess he's not too old IF he desires. Also, he is a direct, only removed from an Adopted royal situation.

The most important thing, I would think, and apparently he's taking care of his principality business and as I suppose he views his moral responsibility also--the offsprings.
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Correction- only once removed from an adopted royal situation.
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Please offer your opinion. I do think Prince Albert and Charlene's relationship is a bit "for show". I believe it could be in part a response to the public announcement that the Prince had fathered Alexandre Coste.
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Old 11-05-2009, 05:00 AM
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I don't think it's quite that similar. Princess Charlotte was adopted but of course never reigned, nor was her "illegitimate" status a sure thing. If I remember right Louis said they had married privately but that Prince Albert I did not give his permission hence it was not recognized by Monegasque law. Part of the reason Princess Charlotte made way for her son was because it just wouldn't be proper for a divorced woman of questionable legitimacy to be sovereign of a Catholic monarchy. Also, Louis II was not all that popular at the end of his life whereas Rainier III, and I think rightly so, was much beloved and had a great deal of real-life experience already under his belt when he became sovereign prince. So far, I don't think there has ever been an actual Monegasque monarch that was adopted.
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We don't know what goes on in his mind. But he is shrewd enough to keep everyone guessing, thus guaranteeing shedloads of press coverage which then will impact - mainly positively - on his environmental and other pursuits and interests.

Once before I dared to suggest on this thread that CW is a modern reincarnation of the "Dame d'Honneur" - a bit like a Lady-in-Waiting in the British sense.

However, there already is a Dame d'Honneur in Monaco, and she's called Virginia Gallico - the elderly lady dressed in black who stands just behind the main players and sometimes looks after any children at state occasions such as the forthcoming Monaco National Day.

But again, where does that leave CW? Probably as a "companion", and someone who accompanies PA at a limited number of public appearances, as long as they are not "state-related" or "official".....

Like most men, PA just likes to have a nice-looking lady on his arm, and they rub along together well enough, as evidenced by some of this year's summer holiday pics.

Apart from that - who knows? Let them get on with it.
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Old 11-05-2009, 06:17 AM
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Who knows? I personally think they are in a real relationship but time will tell what comes of it.

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Please offer your opinion. I do think Prince Albert and Charlene's relationship is a bit "for show". I believe it could be in part a response to the public announcement that the Prince had fathered Alexandre Coste.
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"Immature bald big boy"...!!I am very fond of Prince Albert but I have to admit I laughed out loud and I am still laughing!

Like all of the children of Rainier and Grace Albert has his share of flaws and foibles, but just enough intelligence, humor and even dignity to make it all seem okay somehow.

Even Stephanie. She has made me cringe and thank the good Lord that her mother is not around to witness some of her antics(in the 80's and 90's) but I recently read an entire French Vogue special issue devoted to her and she is much more sensitive and serious than I had previously known,.
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I think they will marry and that they have gone as far as they are able as a couple without the paper. As for the religious aspects and political ones I would not be surprised if Pa does not have a civil ceremony and revise the rest.It would have been nicer if Cw spoke French but she may well yet do it as Grace did by 'osmosis" to quote her. I just cannot see them breaking up.If anybody thinks that after four years they would break well.. I would be shocked

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I suppose you're right - Charlene recently became Honorary President of "Ladies Lunch", a charitable fundraising group, and it seemed a bit strange......

I wonder what Caroline would feel if she were no longer First Lady? But then, she has a string of other roles to fulfill, in Austria, Britain etc.
Evita started like that with Ladies Lunch etc.

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Please offer your opinion. I do think Prince Albert and Charlene's relationship is a bit "for show". I believe it could be in part a response to the public announcement that the Prince had fathered Alexandre Coste.
No way . Alex has nothing to do with CW appearing on the scene.
Pa is not one to deflect and denigrate Cw like that ever as he has shown.
If that was the case I think CW would have left by now. having understood that she is being used - or it would have taken a downward spiral.
Nothing of the sort.
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I think they will marry and that they have gone as far as they are able as a couple without the paper. As for the religious aspects and political ones I would not be surprised if Pa does not have a civil ceremony and revise the rest.It would have been nicer if Cw spoke French but she may well yet do it as Grace did by 'osmosis" to quote her. I just cannot see them breaking up.If anybody thinks that after four years they would break well.. I would be shocked
Are you sure Charlene has not learned French already? Surely this would be a priority.
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Monaco may be a defacto absolute monarchy but I don't think the people would tolerate a princess consort who could not be bothered to learn French or adopt the state religion. If Albert married her in a civil ceremony only, if she couldn't speak French and didn't become Catholic I don't think the Monegasque people would forgive him. Personally, I don't think he would do such a thing as no matter how wild the Grimaldis get from time to time, at the end of the day they always seem to know which lines you just do not cross. Even as things are now there have been grumbles that Albert II is reverting back to the pre-Rainier princes who saw Monaco simply as a source of income and could not be bothered to actually live there or be part of their people's lives. Myself, I think Albert is sensitive to that criticism, I think it's why he does carry on the local traditions that he does and I don't think he would want to needlessly provoke his people by marrying someone if she didn't seem to want to 'become' Monegasque.
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