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Old 05-19-2011, 12:15 PM
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Apparently not. Personally, I find the idea of a civil ceremony and a religious ceremony cumbersome. Why not have "one stop shopping". Especially when there are state churches in Europe?
"Cumbersome" is a good word that comes to mind for me as well...I notice that this is required in Belgium as well.

I wonder why...has it something to do with the fact that these are predominantly Catholic countries?

I know that this was not always(historically) a requirement in Europe.

PS..My GOODNESS CW looks gorgeous in those pictures above...I am losing my mind over those earrings...I love them!
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Old 05-19-2011, 12:31 PM
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In France in monaco also it is the law, only the civil wedding counts, you are not married if you marry in a religious wedding and everybody must to marry to two weddings, one civil, one religious, only the civil counts.
In ZDF heute leute, there is an interview of Prince Albert and Charlene, they speak about heir wedding and Charlene said how they meet and she wants very quickly chidren because she loves the children. Prince said I agree and she answers' I hope so
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Old 05-19-2011, 12:40 PM
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I read on one of the local websites, that on 7/1 and 7/2 it has only rained 2 or 3 times in about the last 30 years. Monaco has an arid and moderate, temperature wise, climate. That's why everyone goes to the Riviera. It's also very beautiful.
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Old 05-19-2011, 12:48 PM
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In France in monaco also it is the law, only the civil wedding counts, you are not married if you marry in a religious wedding and everybody must to marry to two weddings, one civil, one religious, only the civil counts.
If only the civil counts, couldn't you just do a civil wedding then? Why does it HAVE to be both?
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Old 05-19-2011, 01:17 PM
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I've been to Monaco...maybe 15 years ago and what i remember of Monaco is it's beauty...warm weather, tropical splender, the water, the casino...beautiful little country.
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Old 05-19-2011, 01:19 PM
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here in france and in Monaco, it is the same law, there are persons who don't want to marry in a religious ceremony, they only just marry in a civil wedding, but the persons who are religious (catholic or protestant or orthodox) marry after the civil ceremony in the religious ceremony, but the first wedding is the civil wedding after we have the religious ceremony. and never the religious ceremony before the civil ceremony, always the civil wedding first and the religious ceremony after. all the people must marry like this.For the church if you are not married in a religious wedding, you are not weeded before God. Prince Albert and Charlene must marry like anybody,for the civil 'civil ceremony) for God(religious ceremony), I know it is difficult to understand for the foreighn people, but it si like this, it is the law.
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Old 05-19-2011, 01:23 PM
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Yes KittyAtlanta, the couple who is just married in a civil wedding, his wedding is not recognized by the church. It is like they are not married for the church
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Old 05-19-2011, 02:00 PM
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I'm not at all upset that Wills and Kate won't be at the Monaco wedding.

I want to see Albert and Charlene.
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Old 05-19-2011, 02:04 PM
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Prince William and Kate will be in USA visit during the wedding, in Point De Vue, it is said that Prince Edward and princess Sophie of Essex will be at the wedding of Monaco.
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Old 05-19-2011, 02:12 PM
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here in france and in Monaco, it is the same law, there are persons who don't want to marry in a religious ceremony, they only just marry in a civil wedding, but the persons who are religious (catholic or protestant or orthodox) marry after the civil ceremony in the religious ceremony, but the first wedding is the civil wedding after we have the religious ceremony. and never the religious ceremony before the civil ceremony, always the civil wedding first and the religious ceremony after. all the people must marry like this.For the church if you are not married in a religious wedding, you are not weeded before God. Prince Albert and Charlene must marry like anybody,for the civil 'civil ceremony) for God(religious ceremony), I know it is difficult to understand for the foreighn people, but it si like this, it is the law.

I do know that the Roman Catholic Church does not recognize civil marriages as valid for Catholics and that is not just in Europe, but everywhere.

So maybe Albert must be married by the laws of the State and the Church, since he is of course a Catholic Head of State.

Thanks melina-premiere.
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Old 05-19-2011, 02:15 PM
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I'm not at all upset that Wills and Kate won't be at the Monaco wedding.

I want to see Albert and Charlene.
AMEN TO THAT, KittyAtlanta!

I never expected the Cambridges to be there anyway..CW told Tatler that she is becoming good friends with Sophie, Countess of Wessex...and the Wessexes attended PA's enthronement ceremonies so maybe they will be at the wedding too.

Sophie and Edward have it made...they get to attend ALL the glittering parties and weddings in the European Royal Courts that the Queen and the Prince of Wales cannot or will not go to!
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here in france and in Monaco, it is the same law, there are persons who don't want to marry in a religious ceremony, they only just marry in a civil wedding, but the persons who are religious (catholic or protestant or orthodox) marry after the civil ceremony in the religious ceremony, but the first wedding is the civil wedding after we have the religious ceremony. and never the religious ceremony before the civil ceremony, always the civil wedding first and the religious ceremony after. all the people must marry like this.For the church if you are not married in a religious wedding, you are not weeded before God. Prince Albert and Charlene must marry like anybody,for the civil 'civil ceremony) for God(religious ceremony), I know it is difficult to understand for the foreighn people, but it si like this, it is the law.
So for your religion you may need both but for law you at least need civil-great I get it now, I thought from your earlier post both were required by law ....so now I'm less confused, thanks for explaining :)
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Prince William and Kate will be in USA visit during the wedding, in Point De Vue, it is said that Prince Edward and princess Sophie of Essex will be at the wedding of Monaco.
Yes- Kate and William will be in Canada so probably Countess and Earl of Wessex will go, they're friends with all these Royals too having gone to Victoria and Daniels and Fred and Marys I think
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After seeing the pics of Afra Casiraghi's wedding almost exactly 5 years ago, this makes me think that once again the entire Casiraghi/Hanover clan will be there, but this time for Uncle Albert:

http://charlottemaripomeline.web-log...werij_afra.jpg

http://charlottemaripomeline.web-log...rij_afra_2.jpg

http://charlottemaripomeline.web-log...rij_afra_3.jpg

http://charlottemaripomeline.web-log...tje_afra_3.jpg

http://charlottemaripomeline.web-log...tje_afra_5.jpg

http://charlottemaripomeline.web-log...tje_afra_1.jpg


I can't wait, lol!
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Perhaps she is "finding herself" - at last ??
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Old 05-19-2011, 05:29 PM
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I saw they released the commemorative coin today. I think they nailed Charlene, it's amazing!

Royalty Online: [Monaco] New commemorative token (coin) for sale ahead of #royalwedding
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Very nice, indeed.
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Old 05-19-2011, 05:36 PM
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OMG, that is honestly, hands down, the absolute very best commemorative coin I've ever seen. They nailed it!!!!

Usually these coins make the couple look haggard, old, weird, totally unrecognizeable, but in this case, they actually got it right!
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After seeing the pics of Afra Casiraghi's wedding almost exactly 5 years ago, this makes me think that once again the entire Casiraghi/Hanover clan will be there, but this time for Uncle Albert:

http://charlottemaripomeline.web-log...werij_afra.jpg

http://charlottemaripomeline.web-log...rij_afra_2.jpg

http://charlottemaripomeline.web-log...rij_afra_3.jpg

http://charlottemaripomeline.web-log...tje_afra_3.jpg

http://charlottemaripomeline.web-log...tje_afra_5.jpg

http://charlottemaripomeline.web-log...tje_afra_1.jpg


I can't wait, lol!
Nadine, Princess Caroline and Prince Ernst-August were not separated at that time, so it wasn't unusual for them all to be together.

But now they ARE separated, and unless EA and PA are closer than we realize, I don't see any reason why he would be at this wedding.

His two sons..perhaps. EA himself...what would be the point?

It's so touching to see how Caroline wears her emotions on her sleeve..despite her legendary elegance. And was that Charlotte crying too?? BTW...her then-boyfriend Felix Winckler was quite a cutie!

BTW...that PA/CW commemorative coin was PERFECT! I was appalled at the way the one for William/Kate made the bride look...she was not even recognizable!

But Monaco got it right.
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Old 05-19-2011, 06:11 PM
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The commemorative coins are beautiful!! I remember the one for Crown Princess Victoria you could barely tell it was her but this almost looks like a picture! I wonder if we will have a giveaway of these coins too!
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