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Old 08-10-2005, 05:38 PM
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Louis looks very much like Daniel. I'd never question that paternity. I think Lady MacAlpine's post was just totally misunderstood.
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Old 08-10-2005, 07:53 PM
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I must third, no way is PAII anyone but Reiner's child.
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Old 08-10-2005, 10:29 PM
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how is Prince Edward related to Prince Albert?
If you look back in this thread I gave the genealogy to give that. They are cousins from Mary's mother's side and her fathers. I know mostly the Hamilton Douglas connection. Lady Douglas Hamilton daughter of 11th Duke of Hamilton. Here is one of many links I have http://clanhamilton.acomhosting.com/history.htm for information on the family. They were in line for the throne of Scotland rivals of the Stuart's changed from Stewart by Mary Queen of Scots to the French spelling. As the Windsors descendants of Kenneth MacAlpin.
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Old 08-11-2005, 06:56 AM
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I think the situation with paternity rumors is able to get out of control too. IMHO, it seems everything is very simple...and with Grace' prefernces in respect of the men appearance as well... It's well-known that there are only 36 types of the human faces on the Earth and if certain similarity of Ranier and Oleg Cassini added some fire to the fire-box of someone' rich imagination, it doesn't mean that we all should follow to that "madman ravings". The next time I am afraid to read that Albert and Elton John are children of the Pope and Elizabeth Tailor...Let's quite this subject friends :)
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Old 08-11-2005, 07:40 AM
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I think the situation with paternity rumors is able to get out of control too. IMHO, it seems everything is very simple...and with Grace' prefernces in respect of the men appearance as well... It's well-known that there are only 36 types of the human faces on the Earth and if certain similarity of Ranier and Oleg Cassini added some fire to the fire-box of someone' rich imagination, it doesn't mean that we all should follow to that "madman ravings". The next time I am afraid to read that Albert and Elton John are children of the Pope and Elizabeth Tailor...Let's quite this subject friends :)

I total agree with you
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Old 08-11-2005, 05:36 PM
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The current Grimaldis are descendants of Prince Albert I (1848-1922) who was married to Lady Mary Douglas-Hamilton, daughter of the 11th Duke of Hamilton. They married in 1869. This marriage was declared invalid in 1880. (This is one of those supposedly cursed marriages.) Prince Albert is this Albert's g-g-grandfather.

The Hamiltons are ancestors of the Queen through her Bowes-Lyon side.
Thanks for the info, you know, I read on one of the forums how Prince Edward has a similarity to his great Grandpa King George V, interesting Huh?
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Old 08-11-2005, 05:57 PM
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Well, to put that straight:

Rainier III is Albert II father !
Daniel Ducruet is Louis Ducruet's father!
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Old 08-12-2005, 12:25 AM
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...Amen... :)
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Old 08-12-2005, 12:57 AM
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Thank you Monica17 and MacAlpine for the details I didn't know :)
I bet that courtier, friend of Ranier' ex-girlfriend could play one of the main part in the court' backstairs. Grace could feel herself at her own Palace not only as a guest, but sooner like on the minefield :( I wonder how long that miserable period lasted? Up to her children birth?
...I would say that in this case Mary Donaldson looks a lucky girl, she got a very warm and enthusiastic welcome...
You're welcome. :) Okay, I will just stick to your specific questions, Aquamarine. Yes, a minefield was more like it. Princess Grace just chalked up to those incidents with the palace staff as "palace dramas". Furthermore, she was also miserable bec. she had two miscarriages after the birth of Prince Albert and before Princess Stephanie was born. And their parish priest (Father Tucker) left them, too. He was very close to the family. Her dad also died in 1960, I think. Rainier allowed her to do "Marnie" with Alfred Hitchcock(? spelling?) to help her with her depression. But the Monegasques strongly opposed it and there were also a lot of bad press about her returning to the movies. I think maybe this period lasted 1956-1964 bec. Stephanie was born in 1965. :)
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Old 08-12-2005, 06:23 AM
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Sincerely speaking, Monica17, if to talk about Alfred Hitchcock' movies and Grace, I would raise an objection as well (!).
I felt very strange when I watched "Marnie" for the first time. How could that Hitchcock' gloomy and uneasy movie help with her depression???
I even think that Hitchcock (like Picasso with his painting) had a mysterious black power to pass ill aura of his movies to actors, that had a destructive influence on their further life.
I like watching Hitchkock' movies, from time to time and in rainy and stormy days, but in my opinion, they finally turned out of ill omen for Grace. She should stop to movies with more positive, light and radiant scenarios...
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Old 08-12-2005, 11:45 AM
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Thanks for the info, you know, I read on one of the forums how Prince Edward has a similarity to his great Grandpa King George V, interesting Huh?
I haven't noticed that, maybe because Edward hasn't gotten a beard.

But Michael of Kent looks like his grandpa, George V, who could have been the brother of Nicholas II of Russia. (Perhaps some of the similarity can be accounted for by the fact that Michael is a descendant of George V through his father and of the Russian RF and the Danish/Greek RFs through his mother.)
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Sincerely speaking, Monica17, if to talk about Alfred Hitchcock' movies and Grace, I would raise an objection as well (!).
I felt very strange when I watched "Marnie" for the first time. How could that Hitchcock' gloomy and uneasy movie help with her depression???
I even think that Hitchcock (like Picasso with his painting) had a mysterious black power to pass ill aura of his movies to actors, that had a destructive influence on their further life.
I like watching Hitchkock' movies, from time to time and in rainy and stormy days, but in my opinion, they finally turned out of ill omen for Grace. She should stop to movies with more positive, light and radiant scenarios...
I didn't know she did the movie Marine. I thought High Society was her last film, please explan...
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Old 08-13-2005, 03:13 AM
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I didn't know she did the movie Marine. I thought High Society was her last film, please explan...
Aquamarine, Princess Grace just wanted to do a movie..... I suppose she also liked the script or else she wouldn't have been excited. She missed the creativity part of acting, I guess. And Hitchcock was her favorite director. She was supposed to do it over the summer holiday in the USA with Prince Rainier in attendance at times.

Yes, Lashinka, her last full-feature film was High Society. Rainier allowed her to do Marnie but it didn't push through with Princess Grace at the lead. The Monegasques and the press made such a fuss over her returning to the movies so she had to decline. It was made by another actress (forgot who). She made a bit of mini-TV documentaries or something in the latter years but mainly concentrated on poetry reading.
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Aquamarine, Princess Grace just wanted to do a movie..... I suppose she also liked the script or else she wouldn't have been excited. She missed the creativity part of acting, I guess. And Hitchcock was her favorite director. She was supposed to do it over the summer holiday in the USA with Prince Rainier in attendance at times.

Yes, Lashinka, her last full-feature film was High Society. Rainier allowed her to do Marnie but it didn't push through with Princess Grace at the lead. The Monegasques and the press made such a fuss over her returning to the movies so she had to decline. It was made by another actress (forgot who). She made a bit of mini-TV documentaries or something in the latter years but mainly concentrated on poetry reading.
Thanks for the explanation.:o
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LadyMacAlpine mentioned Michael Jackson's children in one of the previous posts above. His two children by the second wife were conceived via artificial insemenation with a sperm donor. She has admitted this, so they are not his biological children at all. I don't know about the third child as it is from a different, unknown mother.
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LadyMacAlpine mentioned Michael Jackson's children in one of the previous posts above. His two children by the second wife were conceived via artificial insemenation with a sperm donor. She has admitted this, so they are not his biological children at all. I don't know about the third child as it is from a different, unknown mother.
This is off topic but yes I did mention him she originally said she was a surrogate for a married couple. The eggs weren't hers either. Then they said they were conceived the natural way. The third was a surrogate also. He and Debbie married to make the children legitimate.
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Did any of you read in Kitty Kelly's book that the Queen Mum had artificial insemination to conceive Elizabeth and Margaret?? The outrageous things these people will write!! They said The Duke of York's "sperm" needed some help. I wonder if the Queen Mum ever heard about this and what she had to say?? She may well have used some expletives!!
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The Monegasques and the press made such a fuss over her returning to the movies so she had to decline. It was made by another actress (forgot who). .
In Marnie? That was Tippi Hedren who Hitchcock discovered while she was a model. She was another one in a long line of blonde beauties who Hitch put into his movies. After Grace left movies, it was said that Hitch went to look for someone just like her. Another one who could be in his movies. First there was Kim Novak and then Vera-Ellen and then Eva Marie Saint. Tippi was the last of the cool blondes. But it is not entirely accurate to say that Grace was the first. The first was Madeleine Carroll. Grace was just the best. The epitome of the Cool Blonde.
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In Marnie? That was Tippi Hedren who Hitchcock discovered while she was a model. She was another one in a long line of blonde beauties who Hitch put into his movies. After Grace left movies, it was said that Hitch went to look for someone just like her. Another one who could be in his movies. First there was Kim Novak and then Vera-Ellen and then Eva Marie Saint. Tippi was the last of the cool blondes. But it is not entirely accurate to say that Grace was the first. The first was Madeleine Carroll. Grace was just the best. The epitome of the Cool Blonde.
Thank you, Dennism, that you reminded the name of actress finally played in "Marnie" :) As I know, Tippi Hedren was a mother of Melanie Griffith. Btw, you didn't mention among all of them Ingrid Bergman
Monika17, I just wanted to say that taking into account Grace' inclination to such things as mysticism, astrology etc, aura of movies of Hitchcock (incl. "Marnie" if she would choose to play) could have a certain mystical influence on her mentality and as a result to her future. Our reality is reflection of the inward life, the world created by our thoughts and imagination...
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Old 08-15-2005, 02:14 AM
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Thank you, Dennism, that you reminded the name of actress finally played in "Marnie" :) As I know, Tippi Hedren was a mother of Melanie Griffith. Btw, you didn't mention among all of them Ingrid Bergman
Monika17, I just wanted to say that taking into account Grace' inclination to such things as mysticism, astrology etc, aura of movies of Hitchcock (incl. "Marnie" if she would choose to play) could have a certain mystical influence on her mentality and as a result to her future. Our reality is reflection of the inward life, the world created by our thoughts and imagination...
Yes, of course. Ingrid. Interesting concept. So our reality can be influenced by our thoughts and our imaginations.
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