Jazmin Rotolo (Grimaldi) Part 1

[Lillia]

I think Albert need a lady who would shun scandals and not go looking to create problems for him (or her)

 

[Lillia]

This is just my opinion but feel not being ready might mean the whole marriage and children thing because he hasn't found the one to put up with all that is connected to being his wife. The press, the social demands of having to dress up and go to a function when she would much rather stay home sit in a long warm bath to relax, watch TV or read.

I agree with that. He does not, did not want any marriage/parenting situation like that forced onto him.

If he wants to do that, he -- like anyone else -- should go into it 1000% of his own free will or not at all

Who would?

 

[LadyMacAlpine]

I think NC has more of an agenda going. I believe her agenda has not fully revealed itself yet.

In the other thread, it was reported that NC has now hired a press agent to tend to her own publicity needs. Someone that wants to be left out of the spotlight (as she claimed she wanted) would not do such a thing.

She also claimed that the only true thing she wanted from Albert was a public recognition for the boy, so I do not quite understand why she would be further upset with him -- she got what she asked for and then some. Why would she be upset still?

Seems NC is even spreading her own gossip about Tamara Rotolo and Jasmine -- even thought a reporter asked her, she could have said 'No comment', but she did not do that and said a few more things also...

LadyM, I think you called it spot on a little while ago when NC did those photo spreads, you mentioned (I think) that it seemed like she was probably launching some kind of PR thing...

Please don't let me put words on you though, if you did not mention that, let me know

I'm not sure if I was the one that said it however I do agree with it. I have noticed none of Nicole's supporters have commented since the article came out. The bashing will be back on Albert soon being a neglectful father and making excuses for it its a cycle in human behavior. Have other things I would like to say only will keep from commenting at this time. Perhaps someone who has the whole article will post it here and we can translate it.

 

[Lillia]

Thanks -- I did read that somewhere (I think) but I'm glad you let me not put words on you -- that is not the intention. I would like to see that article myself too.

I hope PA does not play this kind of 'game' with her -- in my opinion, he should stay far far away from her. I hope he doesn't even respond to anything from her all.

Time will tell what NC is up to with keep stirring things up.

 

[LadyMacAlpine]

Jazmin photo

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Never posted photo's of Tamara and Jazmin who looks like her mother. She also does look like she is a very happy with her mother. But then that is my opinion as to who she looks like as well. I have seen a full frontal view of Tamara. Cover

 

[lashinka2002]

IMO, Anyone, no matter who it is - the other parent, a grandparent whoever it may be projecting a negative attitude towards me would never prevent me from seeing and spending time with my children. It's a feeble excuse. At the end of the day if you want to see your children, you do. If you want to speak to them, you call them. If you don't have a good relationship with your ex-partner then you resolve custody and visitation in court maybe hire a mediator and see that precious child of yours. What are you going to say 15 years down the road when the child asks you "why didn't you ever vist?" - "because mommy had an attitude?" That doesn't cut it!

Whoever stated that Albert doesn't want the child or the responsibility of Alexandre I think pretty much got it right, either that or he's having a really hard time adjusting. What mother in her right mind could take the emotional rejection of her child lightly, no wonder she's so upset.

I seemed to have missed an article posted earlier but am unable to find it. If anyone could let me know where it is that would be great. I've searched but only in vain.

 

[hsh1969]

You want to know what it NC agenda? that's easy: "I can be a good Princess of Monaco, I'll show you"

 

[CasiraghiTrio]

It certainly does not take a genius to see why Albert and NC are not together anymore.

She seems to require a lot of attention. I don't like that. If Albert insists on marrying someone (I rather hope he stays single for the sake of Caroline and Andrea being his successors!) I hope the next Princess of Monaco is someone with a strong sense of public duty, discretion and of humble character.

 

[Tosca]

Granted that I do not like NC's behaviour and what she said, I had the feeling that the interviewer seemed a bit biased against her, though.

A journalist should be objective, if I'm not mistaken...

 

[LadyMacAlpine]

Granted that I do not like NC's behaviour and what she said, I had the feeling that the interviewer seemed a bit biased against her, though.

A journalist should be objective, if I'm not mistaken...

Yes, they are suppose to be objective however they throw in their own opinions like Albert fumbling and fidgeting due to what he saw not being aware of what he was seeing is common for Albert. He doesn't stand still even giving a speech.

 

[libradoll]

wow, interesting to see that some attitudes haven't changed. mine hasn't either! i say nicole has now found herself in a position that she wasn't in before. she is the mother of albert's only known son. and albert IS a prince, ruler of monaco. It is what it is. So as for her demanding respect or whatever, why not??? she didn't lie...........

i say more grease to nicole's elbows, live your life and do what you want to do. who cares? PA obviously doesn't want her anymore and she is obviously NOT going to be Princess Nicole of Monaco, so why can't she just live her life with what she has? it's her discretion to live her life how she wants. i've said it many times, if i had some baby with Prince William and he barely acknowledges the kid through his teeth and obviously DOES NOT love me or want me, why would I care about his comfort or feelings??? please...........i'd go ahead count my chips left on the table and move on. me and prince william's baby will be living it up in saint tropez for sure!!!

 

[LadyMacAlpine]

BTW I was watching a video tape of a translation of an interview with Albert and the interpreter used the words "this child" not "the kid."

 

[LadyMacAlpine]

wow, interesting to see that some attitudes haven't changed. mine hasn't either! i say nicole has now found herself in a position that she wasn't in before. she is the mother of albert's only known son. and albert IS a prince, ruler of monaco. It is what it is. So as for her demanding respect or whatever, why not??? she didn't lie...........

i say more grease to nicole's elbows, live your life and do what you want to do. who cares? PA obviously doesn't want her anymore and she is obviously NOT going to be Princess Nicole of Monaco, so why can't she just live her life with what she has? it's her discretion to live her life how she wants. i've said it many times, if i had some baby with Prince William and he barely acknowledges the kid through his teeth and obviously DOES NOT love me or want me, why would I care about his comfort or feelings??? please...........i'd go ahead count my chips left on the table and move on. me and prince william's baby will be living it up in saint tropez for sure!!!

What I posted in the other thread due to your statement. Let me put it this way to you. Even if they are not accommodating which no one has said they aren't except Nicole its due to what she did. If she wanted to someday get along with them for the sake of Alexandre then she should learn to remain quiet regarding the family and Albert. Perhaps the truth is she did in fact set up Albert and trap him once she realized what she had become accustomed to where his attentions were concerned was coming to an end and she wanted more. If you have no intentions of doing more then being a mother to your child who you want to grow up and have a normal life you don't need anyone to handle the press. You make it known any future statements requested will come through Albert himself as your son's father he will speak for all of them in this matter.

If Nicole were to contact the Palace perhaps Albert won't speak to her but someone will and presents to them that the press is contacting her and she doesn't want to deal with it would they please fix the problem I am sure they will make a statement stating that and all statements will be made through him. However it is obvious she wants everything that goes with fame. The one I feel sorry for is Alexandre she should be setting an example for that boy and lets not forget she has two other sons out there watching.


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[didem]

I voted

Albert is the father of Jazmin

 

[hsh1969]

Maybe he is, but since TR is "guessing" refusing to change the last name of the girl to Rotolo and take the Grimaldi away, it'll be a cold day in hell before Jazmin is recognized.

 

[Gabriella]

This thread is not about Nicole, so please get back on topic. It's okay to mention her name in a post, but it's quite another to write a whole post dedicated to her or her actions. This thread was started to talk about whether or not Albert is the father of Jazmin, not about Nicole or her interviews. Any further comments about it will be deleted.

 

[Lillia]

http://img352.imageshack.us/my.php?image=k2002081311042ef.jpg http://img375.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ag7ls.jpg http://img307.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kiss6nw.jpg Dreed has said by seeing the full size of these photo's the samething I did even though the press says they are Nicole this woman isn't as thin. Also what I just noticed if you look closely in the third one Albert is holding a glass as she is which is visible between their shoulders. I have also seen that look when he has looked at other woman like this one.
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LadyM -- this is exactly what I was thinking when I first saw those pics with him and the lady in red! I thought it was just this lady in the grey blouse too

Who knows how many recent pics out there of TR, I don't know

 

[LadyMacAlpine]

LadyM -- this is exactly what I was thinking when I first saw those pics with him and the lady in red! I thought it was just this lady in the grey blouse too

Who knows how many recent pics out there of TR, I don't know

New thread for NC discussions such Gabriella said we were off topic. I told Gabriella I will move my posts to the other thread. http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7307

BTW I think I learned something out. TR knows some people in the Forum and I was personally contacted by more then one getting questioned what do I know. Or the press which I do know are watching. One is doing homework so makes me wonder since she also lives in California and seems very young. That tells me folks that the younger one's are paying attention to all we are saying and reaching out to understand as well. It's likely one is Jazmin herself. If you type in Jazmin Grimaldi on AOL the first two hits are this Forum and this thread.

 

[rarotonga]

Albert is the father of Jazmin

You write that with conviction. How do you know for a fact?

 

[Suonymona]

While I don't think Albert is Jazmin's father, I think the possibility of illegitimate children of Albert's scared Rainier into changing the constitution.

I also think the rumour about another daughter older than Eric Alexandre is true. If that is the case, as oldest child, that kid would get a nice slice of Albert's pie (but not as much as EA, being he is the oldest male). But wouldn't an 'official' eldest son, say one from a recognised marriage and sanctioned as Heir receive the big oldest son piece rather than EA?

Its a French law that Monaco also recognizes. Monaco is a separate state but they do acknowledge French law and are ours on something I read believe it was on taxes, imports I can't recall off the top. It makes for better relations between countries. Monaco is dependent on France for trade routes, tourism, and protection from foreign invasion itself having no army only a Police force.

Also, if Monaco does not have an army, who were the fancily dressed men who carried the coffin and have escorted the Family during special/formal events? And what uniform Rainier and has Albert worn?

Ann

 

[LadyMacAlpine]

While I don't think Albert is Jazmin's father, I think the possibility of illegitimate children of Albert's scared Rainier into changing the constitution.

I also think the rumour about another daughter older than Eric Alexandre is true. If that is the case, as oldest child, that kid would get a nice slice of Albert's pie (but not as much as EA, being he is the oldest male). But wouldn't an 'official' eldest son, say one from a recognised marriage and sanctioned as Heir receive the big oldest son piece rather than EA?

Also, if Monaco does not have an army, who were the fancily dressed men who carried the coffin and have escorted the Family during special/formal events? And what uniform Rainier and has Albert worn?

Ann

I won't get into why Rainier changed the Constitution to avoid being off topic. I haven't heard of a rumor about an older daughter. Where did that come from? They are the Palace Guards not army.

 

[libradoll]

lol.........shaking my head.

 

[CasiraghiTrio]

While I don't think Albert is Jazmin's father, I think the possibility of illegitimate children of Albert's scared Rainier into changing the constitution.

I also think the rumour about another daughter older than Eric Alexandre is true. If that is the case, as oldest child, that kid would get a nice slice of Albert's pie (but not as much as EA, being he is the oldest male). But wouldn't an 'official' eldest son, say one from a recognised marriage and sanctioned as Heir receive the big oldest son piece rather than EA?



Also, if Monaco does not have an army, who were the fancily dressed men who carried the coffin and have escorted the Family during special/formal events? And what uniform Rainier and has Albert worn?

Ann

Rainier had many war medals from his service in the French Army during World War Two. Albert was in Monaco's Corps of ?????what's it called again? It's not an army, just a palace guard, like a regiment, you could say, I suppose.

 

[LadyMacAlpine]

The poll has now gone in the favor of Tamara telling the truth not Albert denying he fathered her child. I have new photo's for you.

In the first photo you can see Albert with the woman on the right with her child. The claims been made Albert father this child in the new photo. Look at those chubby cheeks and blonde hair looks similar to Albert as a baby. Photo of Albert with Alex. Should Albert submit to DNA testing even though he has said he isn't their father? He requested DNA testing right away on Alex to know if the child was his which test proved was his son. Look at the similarities between Jazmin and this child. The coloring the hair.

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[luisa]

Alexandre looks a lot like Albert.I am not sure about the other girl.

 

[sesa]

With all due respect, you can not compare the children to each other. As for the baby pic of Jazmin looking like Albert when he was a baby, blonde hair and chubby cheeks does not make for a good comparison. Most toddlers have chubby cheeks. As for the hair coloring, unless both Jazmin and Albert were both either "toe heads" or "red heads" as a toddler, that really makes it difficult to compare the 2. To me, a good comparison would be in the eyes, nose & mouth.
As for comparing both the children to each other, there is no way they even come close to looking like each other. One is fair. One is darker. One has straight fair hair, fair skin, light eyes. The other is dark hair, medium complexion, curly hair. Usually there is something in the children that resembles each other. Be it the eyes, hair, mouth, nose. Please excuse me if I misread the above and no one is comparing the children to each other. But unless you get a pic of Albert and Jazmin, both around the same age range, and compare the 2 side to side, it's very difficult to compare the 2.
As for Albert being her father, who knows.
My heart goes out to Jazmin. Her mother is insisting that Albert is the father. Albert insisting he is not. When all is said and done, Jazmin is still going to be hurt. Either by Albert being her father and denying it, and knowing that he does not want to be a father. Or by it being false, and her mother lying to her all these years. And then being back to square 1, and not knowing who your true father is.
This is just my own personal opinion. It is not meant to offend anyone in any way. But from what I see thru all these threads is that 2 women (maybe more, maybe not) had an oppurtunity of a life time. They took it and ran with it regardless of the outcome. If they named him as father, he either owned up to it, and they got $$. Or he did not own up to it, they make his life miserable, and in the end, they still come out with $$. If not from him directly, from the media/press.
Regardless of the outcome, if your gonna play the game, you gotta pay the price. For which Albert is doing now.

 

[Tosca]

Here is a pic of Jazmin Grace from 1995, published on the latest issue of "CHI" magazine. Sorry the quality of the pic isn't so good, but I had to take it with my camera, since I have no scanner at home

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[LadyMacAlpine]

=Tosca]Here is a pic of Jazmin Grace from 1995, published on the latest issue of "CHI" magazine. Sorry the quality of the pic isn't so good, but I had to take it with my camera, since I have no scanner at home

You can't really see her. I have a photo of her from Cody, WY when Tamara was chasing Albert and 2 others of Tamara herself only no scanner. Is there an article to go with the photo?

 

[Tosca]

You can't really see her. I have a photo of her from Cody, WY when Tamara was chasing Albert and 2 others of Tamara herself only no scanner. Is there an article to go with the photo?

Yes, there is, and of course it's all in Italian. Anyway it says nothing new about her and Tamara Rotolo. It's an intreview with journalist/writer Bruce McCormack, who's on TR's side. The article also carries the pic of TR and JGG from Cody, I guess it's the same as the one you mentioned in your post. The interviewer is still Daphne Barak.

Ciao

 

[LadyMacAlpine]

Yes, there is, and of course it's all in Italian. Anyway it says nothing new about her and Tamara Rotolo. It's an intreview with journalist/writer Bruce McCormack, who's on TR's side. The article also carries the pic of TR and JGG from Cody, I guess it's the same as the one you mentioned in your post. The interviewer is still Daphne Barak.

Ciao

Very interesting. I wonder why Daphne Barak doesn't speak directly to Tamara. A man contacted me who said Tamara and McCormack aren't friends as he claims no idea how he knows that. He also seemed extremely interested. I almost wanted to ask him was he Jazmin's real father due to things he said.

The other two I have of Tamara are not online. You can see what she looks like and put it next to Jazmin she looks like her mother.

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