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View Poll Results: Do you believe Albert is the father of Jazmin?
Albert is the father of Jazmin 29 32.95%
Albert is not the father of Jazmin 31 35.23%
Don't know/undecided 28 31.82%
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Old 03-03-2006, 12:21 PM
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The article reads they were taken around Christmas time (NOVELLA2000)
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Old 03-03-2006, 12:34 PM
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Besides it reads that Jasmine is rumored to have met Charlene (Novella2000)
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Old 03-03-2006, 01:19 PM
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Besides it reads that Jasmine is rumored to have met Charlene (Novella2000)
Sorry there was a misprint in the text, so I misinterpeted what read in the caption under the pic. It wasn't JJG that met Charlene, but Albert who flew to South Africa after meeting JJG on Dec.28th.:( :o
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Old 03-03-2006, 02:44 PM
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mhhh....i don´t really know if she´s his daughter.it could be.....but i can´t really believe it. it would be a big suprise if he has a second kid :). but he soon need a little prince for the throne .
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Old 03-03-2006, 03:13 PM
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I cannot imagine that JGG is Not PA child. DNA is the only way to know for sure and he will not submit to a test, or did in private and knows he's her father. No way he took any DNA test that came out negative and it's a "secret". I almost remember reading something about it but I will have to dig out the article.

Also, I cannot say TR is going to get the mother of the year award but I can say that it's looking more and more like she has a right to be pissed. Single motherhood is a hard, especially if you have to watch the billionaire father in the press, not taking responsibility, knowing that just a tiny portion of his fortune would make life easier. I'm not saying she's poor, but she certainly isn't wealthy like him.
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Old 03-03-2006, 07:12 PM
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"He fumbles when discussing the possibility of children, noting there are other women who have made similar claims. "I don't know of any others that could be true," he said. He denied he had paid money to Tamara Rotolo, a California woman who claimed she had a daughter, Jazmin, by the prince 13 years ago.

Ms. Rotolo made a paternity claim shortly after the child was born, he said, but after an American court dismissed the case, he thought the matter had gone away. Since the story of young Alexandre hit the press, though, he said she had contacted his lawyer again."

This is from the interview at the beginning of this thread. He does know of other cases and he has never denied father her.
The poll on this thread began some time after the thread was created at my request to aide me in my research on public opinion on this case.

Albert has denied on a number of occassions after the orginal interview denied having fathering other children. That none of the other claims are true. Not having my computer to go to the interviews you will have to look for the information yourselves but its out there and they were posted.

I want to point out that Birth Certificates, as marriage licenses and divorces are public record and anyone has access. In the United States unless the father signs at the time of birth permission to add his name the mother can not legally add his if the parties are not married. Last year there was no fathers name on Jazmins. Only if there is legal documentation accompanied with a request for the fathers name to be changed to said birth certifcate can it be done. Forgery, fraud as extortion are felonies.
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Old 03-03-2006, 07:37 PM
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The poll on this thread began some time after the thread was created at my request to aide me in my research on public opinion on this case.

Albert has denied on a number of occassions after the orginal interview denied having fathering other children. That none of the other claims are true. Not having my computer to go to the interviews you will have to look for the information yourselves but its out there and they were posted.

I want to point out that Birth Certificates, as marriage licenses and divorces are public record and anyone has access. In the United States unless the father signs at the time of birth permission to add his name the mother can not legally add his if the parties are not married. Last year there was no fathers name on Jazmins. Only if there is legal documentation accompanied with a request for the fathers name to be changed to said birth certifcate can it be done. Forgery, fraud as extortion are felonies.

Can you please explain what you mean by the above; i.e. it's a forgery, he added his name within the last year, etc.
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Old 03-03-2006, 08:07 PM
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Can you please explain what you mean by the above; i.e. it's a forgery, he added his name within the last year, etc.
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Forgery, fraud as extortion are felonies
I made a statement. Do you by chance know the date of the legal change of documents? It had to have been after October 26, 2005.
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tamarindiCNN LARRY KING LIVE
Interview With Prince Albert II
Aired October 26, 2005 - 21:00 ET

"KING: I'm told in another interview it is suspected that you might have other children. Did you say that?

ALBERT: I didn't really say that.

KING: Let's clear it up.

ALBERT: It came out in a very -- in a wrong way and I don't anticipate, I don't think and I don't know of any other case. I know that I've read the papers like everybody else and a lot of people can make claims and it's easy to make claims now that this story is out."

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...26/lkl.01.html
Thanks Tamar for providing the information.
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Old 03-03-2006, 09:02 PM
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Completely consfussed.....no where ever ever has he said JGG is not my child. Where is it? He can't say it cause he will not take the DNA, I hate to be ugly but can't you read?

I have not a clue what's going on with the birth certificate, but the one I saw posted on this web site could have been a complete fake, who can say.

The only way to know for sure if PA is the father is DNA and he went to court to avoid doing it.
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Old 03-04-2006, 04:40 AM
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I think this birth certificate posted on the Web may be fake. One question appears: If PA didn't give his last name to Alexandre, although there was DNA test done and he publicly recognized the boy so why PA would give his last name to never officialy recognized Jazmin?
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I think this birth certificate posted on the Web may be fake. One question appears: If PA didn't give his last name to Alexandre, although there was DNA test done and he publicly recognized the boy so why PA would give his last name to never officialy recognized Jazmin?
mmm...interesting.
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I think this birth certificate posted on the Web may be fake. One question appears: If PA didn't give his last name to Alexandre, although there was DNA test done and he publicly recognized the boy so why PA would give his last name to never officialy recognized Jazmin?
I believe in the United States, the mother can list anyone as the father. I don't believe the father necessarily has to sign the birth certificate or that any kind of signature is considered an admission of paternity.
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Old 03-04-2006, 04:42 PM
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Yes, I believe also there are differences in the laws regaurding birth certificates in the US and France. PA has no power to name or unname JGG because he just doesn't. I believe the mother can give the child any name she wants on the birth certificate, in the US, but a woman is not really suppossed to name a father without a signature, if she does, it really doens't mean anything, it just provides history for litagation later on.

I think it's generally pretty rare for a woman not to know who got her pregnant. It happens but not to the vast majority.
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Old 03-04-2006, 05:08 PM
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...PA has no power to name or unname JGG because he just doesn't...

I think it's generally pretty rare for a woman not to know who got her pregnant. It happens but not to the vast majority.
it seems that no one has the power to force PA to give his DNA either. and wasn't there a story somewhere about Jazmin having to be 2 months premature to be PA's daughter and that when TR tried to say she was born early it was confirmed Jazmin actually was a full-term baby? there is not much on this whole case because nothing other than the tabloids ever covers it. anybody with info, fill us in.
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Old 03-04-2006, 05:19 PM
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Are there any more pictures of her? She's really pretty...

yeah if the test was negative this story would have died a long time ago
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Old 03-04-2006, 05:22 PM
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i haven't said a word on this subject since it started but ever since i saw the non blurry pictures i knew that you did not need a DNA test to tell you that was his daughter. the look, lips they're Alberts. and then that pic of her in wyoming as a baby looks exactly like one in the princess caroline when she was younger thread that i saw yesterday(a baby picture of albert). i think Jazmin is indeed Albert's daughter. test or not.
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Old 03-04-2006, 05:32 PM
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Tosca those Scans are appalling!! :) Go for take two!
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Old 03-04-2006, 05:33 PM
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i haven't said a word on this subject since it started but ever since i saw the non blurry pictures i knew that you did not need a DNA test to tell you that was his daughter. the look, lips they're Alberts. and then that pic of her in wyoming as a baby looks exactly like one in the princess caroline when she was younger thread that i saw yesterday(a baby picture of albert). i think Jazmin is indeed Albert's daughter. test or not.
I don't get people seeing a resemblance between Jazmin and any member of the Grimaldi family here - Albert Caroline or Charlotte. It seems imaginary to prove that PA is the father. She looks totally like her mother but the thing is that still doesn't say PA is not the father either. You need DNA to know for sure and I don't think he is going to do a DNA test or should do it.
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Old 03-04-2006, 05:43 PM
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i haven't said a word on this subject since it started but ever since i saw the non blurry pictures i knew that you did not need a DNA test to tell you that was his daughter. the look, lips they're Alberts. and then that pic of her in wyoming as a baby looks exactly like one in the princess caroline when she was younger thread that i saw yesterday(a baby picture of albert). i think Jazmin is indeed Albert's daughter. test or not.
Actually I believe she has her mother's lips, in fact they're identical, take a look

Jazmin Rotolo (Grimaldi) Part 1

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Old 03-04-2006, 06:19 PM
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Actually I believe she has her mother's lips, in fact they're identical, take a look

Jazmin Rotolo (Grimaldi) Part 1

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haha good point but then again albert has thin lips as well so...

i'll post the baby comparison pics later on today.
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