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Old 11-24-2010, 10:24 PM
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Charlene is involved with at least 2 charities. One is the Nelson Mandela foundation. The other was some kind of sports foundation; something along the lines of peace thru sports.
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Old 11-25-2010, 12:28 AM
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Off topic, the major problem for Charlene and Kate Middleton is that both are marrying sons who had icons for mothers. The press, from now until eternity will be comparing them to Grace and Diana unless both young women become very strong and defined in their Royal positions and forge their own paths different from Grace and Diana, earning the respect from the press as their own women.
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That should be easy for Kate Middleton, with the amount of protection and training she will enjoy.

Whether the same applies to Charlene, one can only hope.
She is coming to Monaco from a different culture and continent, and the expectation will be that she will become fluent in French. And that's just the tip of the iceberg...
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Old 11-26-2010, 12:42 AM
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Off topic, the major problem for Charlene and Kate Middleton is that both are marrying sons who had icons for mothers. The press, from now until eternity will be comparing them to Grace and Diana unless both young women become very strong and defined in their Royal positions and forge their own paths different from Grace and Diana, earning the respect from the press as their own women.
I totally agree with you, Katrianna....and wish both future princesses well in their endeavours as wives of very popular and public princes of the realm and may they be strong in finding their own path being married to royalty.
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i also think kate has an advantage she has had time to develop her own style, self id and a career
im sure both have been coach by their soon to be husbands but charlene seems to rely on the title for her self confidence whereas kate has that self-confidence to work with the title
i base my thoughts on a pics of charlene & kate before and after the wedding announcements and kate still looks the same whereas charlene now has an air of superiority in her new pics....imho
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Old 11-27-2010, 02:27 AM
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French Wikipedia mentions Charlene boyfriends:
Charlene Wittstock - Wikipédia
So, CW dated a few athletes before she dated Albert.
Here is facebook of one of CW's ex-boyfriends, a rugby player Andre Snyman
Andre Snyman Appreciation Society | Facebook

Media don't write so far about Charlene's past, but they may just before wedding. This is what they do to increase sale, the royal fiance past relationships will sell the best just before wedding.
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Old 11-27-2010, 04:13 AM
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i also think kate has an advantage she has had time to develop her own style, self id and a career
im sure both have been coach by their soon to be husbands but charlene seems to rely on the title for her self confidence whereas kate has that self-confidence to work with the title
i base my thoughts on a pics of charlene & kate before and after the wedding announcements and kate still looks the same whereas charlene now has an air of superiority in her new pics....imho
Rather than basing that opinion on pictures you could reach pretty much the same conclusion by looking at some facts -Kate and William split up and it was William that came crawling back. Kate definitely has some pull and should have some considerable self-confidence as a result of that experience.

However, if Charlene places more importance on the title (and I say *if*) it is arguably a more important title than the one Kate will be getting. Now, I know that the Brits are the royals to most people but consider a few facts. Kate is marrying the heir to the heir to the throne; Charlene is marrying a reigning monarch. Kate is marrying into a constitutional monarchy with very strict protocal, huge public scrutiny, a very regulated life and no real power or role in government. Charlene is marrying a monarch who has the last word on everything that goes on in his country, who is free to do as he pleases, make his own decisions, has a great deal more privacy (I know that sounds odd but I'm thinking mostly of finances etc) and Charlene will be able to do as much or as little as she likes. There was also a greater expectation on William to marry and eventually have children whereas I think most had sort of given up on Albert ever taking the plunge. The Grimaldis may not have the imperial splendor and prestige of the Windsors but they definitely have more power, independence and freedom.

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Old 11-28-2010, 07:36 AM
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By entering into this comparison, we are not com[paring like with like.

Of course PA has sovereignty and a degree of power which he has to share with the government and the trade unions. But being in charge of a dwarf state can hardly be compared with one of the leading nations in the world.
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What are they trying to do with the photoshop? Now she doesn´t have broad shoulders anymore!!

And what is all this display and boasting of wealth? Did any other royal fiancee pose in the palace much before the wedding? Perhaps the ones who follow other Royal Houses can tell me.
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I was just going to post those pictures in her pics' thread.
She really, i mean really, does not look like her at all in those Tatler pics. She was heavily photoshopped, and with and style that reminds of...tadah! Grace Kelly!
I prefer her like she was in this last international festival of Monte Carlo, it's a more suitable style for her. Totally. This looks like a bad copy of Grace, wich paparazzi don't understand that is not nice to see her like Grace 2.0, she should be herself, like in the International Festival pics, she looked really nice there.
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Old 11-28-2010, 08:05 PM
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What are they trying to do with the photoshop? Now she doesn´t have broad shoulders anymore!!
i want to be photoshop in real life... not flaws
in anycase she needs to find herself and define her style be it 20's 30's 40's but minus the gloves...thats to old looking but following in someone else foot steps is sad and since she is to have a say in how a country is to be govern then she should starts with their pr people
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Old 11-29-2010, 02:50 AM
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By entering into this comparison, we are not com[paring like with like.

Of course PA has sovereignty and a degree of power which he has to share with the government and the trade unions. But being in charge of a dwarf state can hardly be compared with one of the leading nations in the world.
I hope I don't offend but I didn't know anyone considered Britain a "leading" nation anymore, but that aside the Windsors are certainly more high-profile but it was my point that the two are so unalike. The first woman Prince Charles asked to marry him actually said no -because being British royalty is a big headache these days. The Grimaldis are a more attractive choice because they actually have their independence and don't really have to answer to anyone. They don't have a parliament that has to approve their every expense, their money is their own to do with as they please, because they are not so high-profile they don't have major diplomatic events to deal with, they can pretty much do as much or as little as they like in whatever areas they choose.

I'm not just making this stuff up -I've heard it elsewhere too that part of the reasons it has become fairly standard procedure for British royals (and others) to marry commoners is because the noble women do not see being royal as that attractive anymore. They already have wealth and adding a royal title would just mean more scrutiny and less freedom. Most say 'no thanks' and so royalty only looks good to the commoners who often have an overly idealistic image of it all. Prince Albert, on the other hand, does not need the permission of his government to leave the country -he can just hop in his jet and go. No one frets about expenses if he takes the yacht out for a vacation. I think the Gimaldis are far the more attractive choice for someone looking to marry royalty.

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there are very few royals who have total control over a whole country(be it large or small) as seen from history their subjects eventually get tired of seeing their leaders run amuck with their lives,lack of morals or whatever......but people do get tired.
as seen from history some royals forget that their position rely on their subjects...so they to have to please somebody(ies) so yea the gimaldis look more attractives than other royal houses but there is more responsbilty..imho
but this forum is suppose to deal with general info on charlene
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I think we're okay - it's the forum for PA and CA :-))

Bones, I'm not offended :-))) ... I realise the UK is going down the pan along with everyone else.

I agree with you also on the point of commoners turning down royals, partly because the aristos are sometimes impoverished, and, generally, they are often regarded as posh celebs rather than titled people.

When the BUNTE newsletter appears in my Inbox, the whole page is full of stories about actors, footballers etc. I have to click my way to the aristos...
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What are they trying to do with the photoshop? Now she doesn´t have broad shoulders anymore!!

And what is all this display and boasting of wealth? Did any other royal fiancee pose in the palace much before the wedding? Perhaps the ones who follow other Royal Houses can tell me.
I really dont care for those photos.. Only one that is decent is the one on the palace courtyard?/ why do they have her posing that way in the palace.. looks kind of sleazy- IMO

I though MC was going for intelligent/serious image?
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Old 11-29-2010, 01:52 PM
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I don't particular care for the photos myself, if she were a model i would say great, but she is to be married to the Prince of Monaco, she shouldn't be slouching in the a chair in the palace or laying down on the ground by the pool in a designer gown. She's not a model. A little dignity and class is expected. Her handlers should know better.
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Well at this point, I am starting to wonder if she has any handlers. I know names have been provided in the past, but they could be doing a better job.
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Has it occurred to you guys that Charlene may have resisted having (and taking) advice from handlers? The Tatler pic may have been arranged by her herself...

She is a loose cannon, fairly strong-willed, and I doubt she would accept advice from onyone but her fiancé.
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Actually that thought did cross my mind fairly recently.

She has handlers but has decided to do things her way. Like Frank Sinatra Well, if that is the case...she needs to stop. As previously mentioned, she is not a starlet so while I understand some pics of her near a pool as she is a former swimmer...she is not promoting a new movie.

And they need to cool it with the photoshop. Normally for magazine covers it doesn't matter...but when you start subsituting hands, faces, shoulders, its a tad ridiculous.

Its interesting to see how things have been handled with Daniel of Sweden and Kate Middleton. You haven't seen Kate since the engagement (only in grainy shots by the paps). Of course its a fairly new engagement but its very different. Very different.

Lady Diana Cooper after the abdication of Edward VIII of Great Britian compared the "reign" of Edward VIII and Wallis Simpson (although not officially married they worked as a married couple when entertaining) as an operetta with that of George VI and Queen Elizabeth which she referred to as an institution. For some reason, this engagement made me think of that. Definitely different.

I hope this makes sense. I realize that every engagement (as well as every royal/princely house) is different. But I would have thought that the basics would remain the same.
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