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Old 11-02-2010, 01:50 PM
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^She does look like Phoebe Buffay!
Yeah, it seems she did another retouch in her nose. Well...
The cover would have been a lot nicer if they didn't put those feathers on her, i mean, what is that?!
And her face is waaay too photoshopped, i don't see why they have to photoshop THAT much.
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Old 11-02-2010, 03:39 PM
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Rosana, do you really mean that CW is "nothing on her own merit"?

Perhaps that's what many people say about her, and, if so, it won't help her one bit.
On the contrary, it will make her very insecure and uncertain.

The only thing which she can rely on is the fact that PA seems really proud of her.

Yes I do Renata. I don´t think she has done anything meritable.

I´m not so sure PA is proud, or maybe he pretends to be. What else cah he do now. If he is, of what? having an acceptable good-looking girl with him is a good reason?.And if you remember the last interview, at the end, with those gestures, you can almost read his mind. "please cut"
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Old 11-03-2010, 06:04 PM
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I think she is the one who has to adapt to monegasque mentality and humor...
Another thing she has done wrong is the comments about monegasques feeling jealousy of her. True or not, she should have keep that to herself. What if monegaques read this and affect their opinions of her?
With that she just promoted the Principality like it has not very nice people. What tourist can she attract with this kind of comment?
She should think twice before answer a question in an interview, we have seen the results and they are not good.

And rosana has a point in the Grace comparisons you are making with her...
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Old 11-03-2010, 06:13 PM
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The recent interview does make you question...who is in charge of assisting Charlene adjust to royal life? I feel like I could give her better advice and the closest I have been to royalty is on my television set. Its like common sense is lacking. It wouldn't hurt the Monaco powers that be to follow the royal training of Daniel of Sweden or my fave Maxima of the Netherlands. Heck...even Mette Marit of Norway did a better job than this.

Giving an interview while you are dating is not a good idea (Marie, Elizabeth the Queen Mother, etc. have done it before) giving one after you are official engaged and saying that people are jealous of you, etc. is totally off limits.

Why they would be jealous of her, I haven't got a clue...but as Nathalie says...keep it to yourself. Just because its a thought in your head doesn't mean you need to verbalize it.
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Nathalie, I agree - she is the one who has to make the effort. And to be accepted - whether in a small village or a large country - can take months, even years, or a lifetime.

Zonk, I think CW suffers from "foot in mouth disease" - she comes out with statements that had better been left unsaid. We've had many instances of that recently, and it makes me wonder whether anyone at the Palace is tasked to sort out CW's gaffes.
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First of all Daniel was a Swede, so his nationality never came into play. Maxima was an internation banking representative, so she, too was much more attuned to international nonsense. Charlene is in an era where very word you utter can be used against you, especially, if it is translated into another language. Many English words in different languages come out quite different than the intent. And, yes, it takes time to win over those whose are different than you. They disliked Grace, too, becuase she was an American and a "Commoner". I won't, as American express what a joke that is to me.
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Old 11-03-2010, 09:07 PM
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First of all Daniel was a Swede, so his nationality never came into play. Maxima was an internation banking representative, so she, too was much more attuned to international nonsense. Charlene is in an era where very word you utter can be used against you, especially, if it is translated into another language. Many English words in different languages come out quite different than the intent. And, yes, it takes time to win over those whose are different than you. They disliked Grace, too, becuase she was an American and a "Commoner". I won't, as American express what a joke that is to me.

Well, my point is that both Daniel and Maxima regardless of their nationalities and career professions, were not readily familiar with the roles of which they were getting ready to become. Dating someone who is a prince/princess is a heck of a lot different than marrying one and becoming entrenched in their life.

I do agree that Charlene is living in an environment that every written or spoken word can be held against you. You said something in first grade in 1986, in your second period class....someone most likely has it on film or recorder. That's what makes this article so bad IMO. But I don't believe there was a misunderstanding in her statement in regards to the people of Monaco being jealous. Unless of course, it was said in French?

Whomever is helping Charlene in her transition into royal life is not doing a good job.

If I was in charge of Charlene's "transformation"...you would have learned nothing new her Tatler interview (if I had allowed her to do one). It would have been a glossy intro to Charlene, brief mention of swimming career and what Charlene hoped to do in Monaco in regards to her charitable endeavors.

I mean, really, you are going to modernize Monaco and Starbucks is mentioned in the same conversation...is she serious? I refuse to believe she was serious when she did this. In addition, I woudl have had final approval for the pictures. This is the same magazine that Beatrice of York posed for right? Obviously not the same photographer.
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Old 11-03-2010, 09:16 PM
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Along with the questionable cover of this Tatler magazine, are some quotes from Charlene that I found surprising and a little inappropriate.

“Of course I’ve been subject to jealousy, but that comes with the territory. Although I have met some wonderful people since I’ve been living in Monaco, I regard them all as acquaintances. I only have two people I consider friends here.”

“The people I mixed with in Monaco didn’t relate to my South African mentality or humor.”

Isn't that a bad way to start off as Princess of Monaco? She's basically said she doesn't like most of the people she's met so far in Monaco... or at least like anyone enough to become friends with them. I understand she must be cautious but statements like this are only going to isolate her further.

I can only hope she has been badly misquoted by this reporter (stranger things have happened).
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I don´t understand either what she meant by jealous. What was she thinking? That everyone wants to become a Princess and that she is sort of lucky and better because she has "done it". She has achieved nothing at all, personally or professionally. Poor girl, conceited and arrogant. And what´s worse, and I hope this time I won´t use inaproppriate words for this forum, I truly believe she´s not smart at all.
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I find Charlene's picture on Tatler very tacky as it doesn't show a young woman about to marry the Prince of Monaco, she appears as a wanna be celeb. Come on, Charlene has shown that she can be glamorous and elegantly dressed at various formal functions, she should have stuck to that. If she would have worn the gown and jewels and hairstyle that appeared at Victoria's wedding, it would have been a beautiful cover. She just appears cheap and gauche on the present cover.
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Honestly Charlene does not has to be smart. Good PR can do wonders. She may have very staged interview with prepared q & a. Many royals do that. I began to believe there are too many people involved in this wedding preparation, everyone has own ideas but really nobody is in charge: total chaos.

Pics of Charlene in Tatler are the worst professional pics of any royal I have seen for a long time. She appears cheap, her poses are horrible and outfits seem tacky although they are very expensive. Do we know the name of this horrible stylist?
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Along with the questionable cover of this Tatler magazine, are some quotes from Charlene that I found surprising and a little inappropriate.

“Of course I’ve been subject to jealousy, but that comes with the territory. Although I have met some wonderful people since I’ve been living in Monaco, I regard them all as acquaintances. I only have two people I consider friends here.”

“The people I mixed with in Monaco didn’t relate to my South African mentality or humor.”

Isn't that a bad way to start off as Princess of Monaco? She's basically said she doesn't like most of the people she's met so far in Monaco... or at least like anyone enough to become friends with them. I understand she must be cautious but statements like this are only going to isolate her further.

I can only hope she has been badly misquoted by this reporter (stranger things have happened).
I agree. She is supposed to spend the rest of her life in Monaco, so to start with complaints about its people isn´t very lucky. I doubt relationships with them will be better after such an interview.
And the cover - I love glamorous photos, but this looks very unnatural, it doesn´t fit her personality at all IMO.
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Old 11-04-2010, 07:13 AM
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in france , in Paris Match, Prince Albert and Charlene are on the cover, this photo was made Saturday evening in Tokyo, they seem to be very in love, there is also a report inside, where there are many photos we didn't see, it is for those people who understand french
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Here's the cover of this weeks PM you've mentioned, melina premiere,
looks much better than the discussed Tatler title.


** Paris Match November 2010 **

The magazine's site has another pic of the photosession:


** Albert et Charlene : premier voyage officiel en amoureux **
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Do you mean this pic? Is it hugging? Really? When PA even does not try to bend to her (compare with his old pics with Togolese Nicole) and when CW is tooooo leaning to the right so that to fall into the pic center and camera' shot with a smile through gritted teeth? Oh, yes....madly fell in love

And this kiss of passion and deep love?
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Yes, the setup is a bit gauche, but then, that's not the first time they have looked less than sophisticated in their choice of pose.

On Novemer 25th, the French historian and writer Philippe Delorme is publishing a book named "Charlène et ces Drôles de Dames de Monaco".

This needs a bit of unpacking: English speakers are familiar with the word "droll" but the original French meaning (in this context) has nothing to do with "funny" or "droll'.

Remember the American series "Charlie's Angels" ? Charlie was a chap who had a small "harem" of resourceful, clever and accomplished young ladies who solved many conundrums and even murders!

So, the abovementioned ladies are the fictitional equivalent of the real, historical ladies and princesses of Monaco across the centuries of Grimaldi rule.

Philippe Delorme is using the arrival of Charlene to deliver a book packed with tales about many of the Drôles de Dames of yesterday and today.

www.philippedelorme.fr
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I agree with AquaMarine, they look "sooo in loove"... (sorry for that, i can't help it)
If anything, they still look like friends. I'm sorry but this two don't have that "quality" that a couple in love has...
The cover, over all, is sort of nice.
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Beg your pardon, but can one really see the "quality" of love? I think not.
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^I can see it in Victoria and Daniel, Mette Marit and Haakon, Maxima and W-A...
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(...) Maybe you should all get your noses OUT of Charlene's Garden and put your noses into your OWN gardens for a change. As for the Jealousy, your poisonous points of view reflect precisely that.

Clearly Miss Wittstock's words have been twisted to boost magazine sales. An innocent remark about the cultural differences between South Africa and Monaco and all of a sudden she is anti? Come on. How many of you have even ever googled Benoni? You probably think its a cold meat of sorts
How many of you have even THOUGHT of visiting Africa?

The Direction we take in life is far more significant than where we've come from. Perhaps it would be more valuable to try open your hearts and Love Charlene instead of sabotaging her because Clearly, she isnt going anywhere.

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