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Old 08-25-2011, 09:14 AM
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melina premiere,I totally agree with you,degrees and diplomas are sometimes totally overrated!Nowadays you can always learn a new language or get to know more about a certain field of interest,read books,listen to lectures,do online-courses etc. to further your education if you haven´t been to university!But what can you do if somebody has a bad character,no discipline or no enthusiasm for work?....Exactly-nothing at all!!! All degrees are worthless sheets of paper if you are not diligent and trying to do better everyday!
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Old 08-25-2011, 09:32 AM
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King Baudoin of Belgium became at 20 King of Belgium, he did not make study, but he was a very good King during the years of his reign, there is also the intelligence of the heart.
I fully agree. There is no degree nor diploma which equips one to become a good Prince or Princess. It all boils down to "intelligence of the heart". What to do when, where and how. All the jewels, schooling and university graduations will NOT buy you "intelligence of the heart" nor will it make you a loved or successful monarch. It is all about intuition and King Baudoin is a typical of example of this. There is no reason why Charlene will not be a highly successful Princess. The fact that she is an olympic swimmer shows that she does have strong will and determination. Her grace, style and elegance is an added bonus.
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Old 08-25-2011, 10:50 AM
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Exactly, she has such a beautiful appearance and charisma,Charlene is very special and her athletic career shows that she is disciplined and focussed.
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Old 10-05-2011, 01:40 AM
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Just beacuse her education does not impress people,does not mean she's dumb.

There are a lot of people who never went to college(or completed) that are just as smart as people who did go.
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Old 12-23-2011, 09:14 AM
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I found this article, I hope it will work
https://www.swimnews.com/News/view/93

There ihttp://picture.belga.be/belgapicture/picture/4805503.html?page=471s also that photo where Charlene won the worldcup in 2002

My other linkdid not work

I hope it will work, it is the photo when Charlene won the world cup in 2002, I hope it will work

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There is also this picture
December 2003 FINA Swimming World Cup Durban South
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Old 12-23-2011, 09:46 AM
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Charlene certainly was a good swimmer since its an achievement to make it to the Olympics, even if only as a member of a relay team.

Having said that, Charlene was never a "superstar swimmer" eg like Kirsty Coventry from Zimbabwe, who made it to the very top as an individual. In additon, she was probably lucky to compete for South Africa (like Princess Haya showjumping for Jordan) because as a national of strong swimming nations like the US or Australia Charlene very likely would only have been second or third string.

Albert is not stupid and I guess it will have suited him to marry a person who didnt make it to the very top and didnt have the single-mindness of those superstars, eg like Schumacher in car racing, who, when they have to quit the sport due to age, dont know what to do with themselves and struggle to cope. Grace was on top of her profession as an actress and never really got over having to stop upon marriage, therefore Albert chose a woman who achieved something in her sport but didnt mind retiring when the relationship became more serious.
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Old 12-23-2011, 10:36 AM
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Charlene was not a super champion yes, but we saw that she worked very much to get results. Of course, she had hights and lows. But saying as some people use to say she never worked
is unfair. When we come on bank photos as getty images or other sites, we see photos of her career,she was everywhere there was a competition.and during many years.
In a documentary on the channel M6 about her , one day before her wedding with prince Albert, there was a resume of her career of swimming 'champion', there were many videos about her victories(team and alone), there were also her interviews when she won. We could see that she worked a lot .There were also a film about her training.
When she met again in 2005 Prince Albert, she just took again the training after a pause because she was injured. During all the year 2006 and beginning 2007, she travelled to monaco and came back for the training.
She won again the title of championship of south africa in april 2007 and gave up after an injury at ankle.
Prince Albert said in this documentary that he respected her swimming career, he said that in 2007, swimming was all her life. He said even she could travel a lot to Monaco when she gave up the swimming it was a sad period for her. He decided to ask her coming to live in Monaco because the period when she was at South Africa became louder for him and Charlene. It was the end of her career.
Of course, let be be realist, a swimming girl is not as glamour as an actress as her mother in law or a princess but it is worthy
We see al the road she had to do to be like she is now. specially at the evening of the gala in Berlin where she was beautiful and could do a speech in front of personalities.
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Old 12-23-2011, 12:13 PM
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Thank you melina for the links.
I think being able to participate in the Olympics is a mega goal to achieve.
And finally getting there means a lot of work and being able to win through a lot of competition. It means that you are one of the best athletes in your country and that's something to be proud of!
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Old 07-29-2012, 03:27 AM
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It is only for the people who are interssing because here on this site we have 2 pour cent who like her.On you tube there is a video where we are seeing Charlene during the Commonwealth games in 19998 jumping up and down during the defilée.
Charlene Wittstock 1998 KL commonwealth
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Old 07-30-2012, 07:20 AM
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I saw this video yesterday which only lasted seven seconds. It was made in 1998.
The happy, 20 years old Charlene Wittstock was gamboling in the video and put her grey "baseball cap" on her head.
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Old 07-30-2012, 09:45 AM
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The only thing needing to be said about Charlene's swimming endeavors is that she was an Olympian, whether she won her event or not. Same goes for anyone who participates.
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Old 07-30-2012, 09:58 AM
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The only thing needing to be said about Charlene's swimming endeavors is that she was an Olympian, whether she won her event or not. Same goes for anyone who participates.
Exactly, as several sportscasters (former Olympic medalists themselves) have pointed out "once an Olympian, always an Olympian" regardless of how you placed in your events. Most of the competitors never make it past the preliminary heats in their events let alone make it to a final and even fewer win a medal.
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Did Charlene even win a medal?! If not I will say it kind of takes the luster off of the " she swam in the Olympics" title. If you don't get a medal or place in the top 5 then your just one of thousands who showed up, competed, lost and went on to party.
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Old 07-31-2012, 03:26 AM
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Did Charlene even win a medal?! If not I will say it kind of takes the luster off of the " she swam in the Olympics" title. If you don't get a medal or place in the top 5 then your just one of thousands who showed up, competed, lost and went on to party.
No, I believe she came on sixth place. And at 26 I guess she quit. So, we could say she abandonded "for a better cause".
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Old 07-31-2012, 04:16 AM
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Charlene was a member of the South African women's 4 x 100 medley team at the 2000 Olympic Games in Sydney, the team finished fifth in the relay.
Charlene participated also at women's 100 m backstroke and was 17th in total, and at women's 200 m backstroke and was 14th in total (7th at semi-final).
Charlene Wittstock Biography and Olympic Results | Olympics at Sports-Reference.com
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Old 07-31-2012, 04:42 AM
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Charlene was a member of the South African women's 4 x 100 medley team at the 2000 Olympic Games in Sydney, the team finished fifth in the relay.
Charlene participated also at women's 100 m backstroke and was 17th in total, and at women's 200 m backstroke and was 14th in total (7th at semi-final).
Charlene Wittstock Biography and Olympic Results | Olympics at Sports-Reference.com
Interesting link thank you.
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Old 07-31-2012, 05:30 AM
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To be qualified for olympic games, you must be enough good. No matter you are princes or a normal people, Only the results are important .
To be qualified in 2000, Charlene had to do good results in 1999 and at the beginnning of 2000. She did not know at this times the prince of Monaco. She won many races in South Africa, in Australia and japan. She was known as a good swimmer at this times in South Africa .
She suceeded to be qualified and until 2002 2003 she went on to gain many races.
In the Grimaldi familiy, Prince Albert suceeded to be qualified many times at the winter games, but he was very far of the podiem. It is Charlène who was the member of the family who was so near of the podium.
Pauline and Charlotte tried to be qualified but they did not suceed.
Albert said in an interview in Paris Match, that there many royal families who could participat to the olympic games but that he and Charlene are the only couple who are olympians
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Old 08-01-2012, 08:35 AM
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Did Charlene even win a medal?! If not I will say it kind of takes the luster off of the " she swam in the Olympics" title. If you don't get a medal or place in the top 5 then your just one of thousands who showed up, competed, lost and went on to party.
If that was the case then we would not have 12000+ athletes participate in the Games in addition to the thousands more who trained for years to attempt to make their nations Olympic teams and compete in events all around the world in the years between each games. Maybe we should go one step further and just send enough athletes to match the number of medals available.
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To Xenia Casaraghi I can only say you have never competed in any sport at an elite level or you would never have made that comment.It takes an average of 10,000 hours of practice and training to become an elite athlete and to compete in a sport where you win or lose by a 10th of a second is indeed competition at its highest level.To be in the top 100 athletes in a world of 6 billion people is quite a feat.I have only admiration for someone who would dedicate themselves to a goal the way she did.
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:08 AM
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She also won a silver medal in the commonwealth games but I can't remember what year it was.
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