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A Boy 41 28.67%
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Twins - Boy / Boy 9 6.29%
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Old 06-01-2014, 05:58 PM
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Hormone levels indicate pretty early on in a pregnancy, definitely within the first trimester usually, if multiples are on the way. It wouldn't surprise me if they know they're expecting twins. Gender is usually something that can't be determined by ultrasound until around the 20th week.

Old 06-01-2014, 06:27 PM
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What is the "hormone level" indicating a multiple, Sunnystar? I'm not familiar with that. One can have serious morning sickness with a single baby, so that cannot be it.

Old 06-01-2014, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Lee-Z View Post
In catholic tradition the baptism should occur relatively soon, but maybe it's different for princes(ses)
Catholics traditionally baptize their children soon after birth. In ancient times this was done due to high infant mortality, and to insure that the child did not die without the most crucial of Christian sacraments.

Infant mortality rates are not what they were ,but it is still the custom to baptize a newborn sooner rather than later.

Of course there are exceptions. It seems that the more religiously observant a couple is, the sooner the baptism takes place after birth. The reverse happens when couples are not that religious.
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Old 06-01-2014, 06:47 PM
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A beautiful baby boy.
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Old 06-01-2014, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Penny Lane View Post
Didn't Princess Grace also have a nice named Grace and she died ?

I could see for a number of reasons why Grace would not be a first name but I could/hope they would use it for a second or third name

I voted twin girls but one of each would be nice too.

I'm not sure about names I did think of Emilie Grace Marie.

I have to keep thinking about the names
Grace LeVine is the niece of Princess Grace.
Grace LeVine is the daughter of Donald and Elizabeth (Lizanne) LeVine.
Grace LeVine died in 1999.
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Charlene's brother Gareth or Sean could be a godfather.
For a Prince: Charles Gervais Louis

For a Princess: Blanche Claudine Elisabeth
Originally Posted by Noble Consort Ming View Post
I just recently read that Florestan I's actual first name was Tancrède.
In Mad for Monaco, an article about H.S.H. Florestan I states:

The future Prince Florestan I, eighth sovereign Prince of Monaco, was born in Paris on October 10, 1785, as Tancrede Florestan Roger Louis Grimaldi.
For a Prince: Henri
Princess Grace's paternal grandfather was John Henry Kelly.

For a Princess: Patrice
Patricia was Princess Grace's middle name.
Old 06-01-2014, 11:57 PM
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For the longest time I've had a feeling that Albert and Charlène would have a little girl. I am probably wrong though, I was wrong about George, Maud AND Mia.

I do think the rumour about Charlène expecting twins is intriguing though. This man, supposedly a friend of Charlène's father, doesn't seem like your obvious poser – he actually has a lot of followers contrary to the majority of these rumour-makers. On the other hand, should her father have called him (which seems a little suspicious in itself unless they're really good friends), one would think that he would have told him not to blurt it out all over a massive social media platform as twitter (or any social media for that matter). Twins would be fantastic nonetheless.

For a boy, I think Rainier is the obvious choice. That would exclude the opportunity for a future (or twin sister) Grace though as Rainier and Grace as siblings would be a tad too tacky (at least for my liking), and I am prone to think that Albert might rather want a daughter named Grace than a boy named Rainier (IIRC he was very close to Princess Grace). Another option could be Charles. I don't know much about the former regents of Monaco, but there have been quite a few Charles's, haven't there? I think Charles is very handsome and much more modern than Rainier. It works both in English and in French. My guess for a full name: Charles Rainier Honoré/Louis/Maxence (Michel).

For a girl, I have only got two names in mind for the first name: Grace and Antoinette. I've already set my mind on Grace Antoinette or Antoinette Grace. My guess for a full name: Grace Antoinette Caroline (Hyppolyte/Lynette) or Antoinette Grace Caroline (Louise/Lynette).

As for godparents, I think Queen Máxima would be a nice choice. Perhaps with Princess Caroline, a male Catholic friend or relative and Gareth Wittstock.
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Old 06-02-2014, 01:09 AM
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What about Jazmin Grace as godmother?
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Old 06-02-2014, 03:47 AM
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My cousin's wife had twins and she found this out during a scan at 10 weeks. I don't know why she was scanned so early but she was and they picked up the two heartbeats. She was also in her late thirties and had a boy and a girl which is apparently the most common set of twins to have in women of that age group.
Old 06-02-2014, 05:00 AM
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Old 06-02-2014, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Mariel View Post
What is the "hormone level" indicating a multiple, Sunnystar? I'm not familiar with that. One can have serious morning sickness with a single baby, so that cannot be it.
The presence of HcG in a urine test is generally an indication of pregnancy. High HCG levels in early pregnancy can indicate a multiple pregnancy - not always though - but doctors will usually pay closer attention to these levels (or do a blood test which is more accurate to determine pregnancy) and probably scan earlier to confirm or check multiples
Old 06-02-2014, 11:23 AM
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Charlene has stated she is close to Queen Maxima and i think also Sophie Wessex - i could definitely see Maxima being a choice. And maybe Charlotte as Albert and Charlene seem close to her.
Grace or Rainier being middles names if either girl or boy.

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Old 06-02-2014, 11:27 AM
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I wouldn't be surprised if Albert and Charlene decide to use a fresh name, like Victoria and Daniel did with Estelle.
Old 06-02-2014, 12:47 PM
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First of all, congratulations! I hope Charlene has a safe pregnancy!

I voted for a girl!
Old 06-02-2014, 03:14 PM
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Old 06-03-2014, 10:51 AM
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Louise, for a Louise II!

Jacques (II) or Charles (IV) for a boy. Florestan (II) might be a bit too exotic. On the other hand, "exotic" appears to be in at the moment.
Old 06-03-2014, 11:34 AM
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I love Rainier or Florestan for a boy. Can't decide yet for a girl except I don't want Grace for her first name!
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Old 06-04-2014, 04:38 PM
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Charlene & Albert's 1st Baby - Guess the Sex, Name and Godparents

I like the idea of Louise as a name for a girl. Not too sure about the boys names be I think Rainier, if it is a boy, will be in the name somewhere perhaps?

Girl = Louise Grace?

As for godparents, I am not too sure, maybe one of their nieces or nephews? Someone from Charlene's family? I don't know...
Old 06-04-2014, 04:48 PM
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I'm pretty sure the names will be chosen so they can be pronounced well in english and french (even if not necessarily the same way), my guesses at the moment are:

boy: Jacques Louis
girl: Ella Johannah

and no name-references to grand-parents at this point.. :)
Old 06-04-2014, 06:33 PM
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I hope they have a healthy baby and Charlene enjoys her pregnancy. As for god parents I think Maxima would be a great godmother. She seems warm loving and happy and loves children.
Old 06-04-2014, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Sunnystar View Post
Hormone levels indicate pretty early on in a pregnancy, definitely within the first trimester usually, if multiples are on the way. It wouldn't surprise me if they know they're expecting twins. Gender is usually something that can't be determined by ultrasound until around the 20th week.
It used to be (like, just a few years ago) that gender could not be determined until 16 weeks at the earliest, most around 20 - but recently a friend in her 40's found out she was expecting twins. Because of the risks involved in this pregnancy, she had specialized tests and they were able to determine the genders about 9 weeks, and their health (both boys, and normal)

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