Albert and Charlene's Relationship

[olga101]

But, it's not as if he wasn't sowing them all along (with 2 children to prove it!). Albert may have a psychological reason why he has not settled down at this ripe age. I wonder if he ever considered seeking professional help? And I'm not trying to be funny. I'm quite serious.

I don't think it really bothers him, Burberry that he hasn't married at or near 50. There was some discussion he had a while back with a reporter ,I believe, to the effect where he stated he knew of 50 year olds who had not married and implied that it wasn't a big thing. I don't think he cares about being a mold or 'like other common men'.

Although I do think that 50 is a somewhat unusual age for a first marriage. Oft times when they get to that age they have done a lot of sharing or living with their companions.

And re whoever said he was dating someone else, I doubt he would do that at this point. He stated last year through someone that he was no longer a playboy and actually we haven't seen him, at least with no one except CW. Not even he would have the gaul after his most high profile international sea to sea romance with CW.

 

[reen]

The Duque of Braganzca (sp?) and the Prince von Thurn und Taxis got married for the first time when they were in their 50's, so there's precedent. However, as I've said before, I dont' think that Albert plans to marry. He could change his mind, but I don't think so.

 

[goody7058]

You guys, know Albert can have high profile relationship quit just like that.

 

[rominet09]

I am sure they will marry, I really hope so, and have children

 

[LadyMacAlpine]

I am sure they will marry, I really hope so, and have children

I posted an article before from Aktuelle they had a poll in which they asked Did Albert find the right woman in Charlene. The last time we looked at it the results were.

Hat

Fürst Albert in Charlene die richtige Frau gefunden?
Yes -- Ja 35.4%
No -- Nein 64.6%

Your hopes of them marrying are in the minority. This is the cover on which it says he is giving her 40,000 Euro's per month on top of paying all her other expenses. It's gone from the Fairy Tale love story which I thought it was in the beginning to paid escort.

I think that if Charlene and her family would not have spoken to the tabloids and had taken the high road in this relationship folks might have accepted her a little better. But then those articles were followed up by the Turin and Maldives photos. She herself is making it difficult to find anything positive about herself.

They are still talking and the Aktuelle article made it go from bad to worse.

 

[goody7058]

That article kill there fairytale romance I think whoever talk to Aktuelle didn't know that it was going to blow up in there faces. Think what people are saying Albert had to pay a woman to come with him to event. Remember last they did a poll about Albert & Charlene poll in this magazine was 64.8% yes & 35.6% no.

 

[LadyMacAlpine]

That article kill there fairytale romance I think whoever talk to Aktuelle didn't know that it was going to blow up in there faces. Think what people are saying Albert had to pay a woman to come with him to event. Remember last they did a poll about Albert & Charlene poll in this magazine was 64.8% yes & 35.6% no.

When was that poll? It's almost identical to what I just posted only the opposite? This one ended on Thursday.
Fürst Albert in Charlene die richtige Frau gefunden?
Yes -- Ja 35.4%
No -- Nein 64.6%

Her father was one of the people interviewed.

 

[goody7058]

This is the poll for last year I'm talking about when they did article for Aktuelle.

 

[olga101]

I posted an article before from Aktuelle they had a poll in which they asked Did Albert find the right woman in Charlene. The last time we looked at it the results were.

Hat

Fürst Albert in Charlene die richtige Frau gefunden?
Yes -- Ja 35.4%
No -- Nein 64.6%

Your hopes of them marrying are in the minority. This is the cover on which it says he is giving her 40,000 Euro's per month on top of paying all her other expenses. It's gone from the Fairy Tale love story which I thought it was in the beginning myself to paid escort.

They are still talking and the Aktuelle article made it go from bad to worse.

Whaaat? I'm done! Whatever! as the kids say! I guess I'll just sit back and wait, maybe for little Alexandre to get into the frey-maybe he'll be dating as a late teener. However, this can't be true. I wouldn't think he'd have to do that, some lovely lady would love him when he's ready to commit.But in the meantime, happy waiting Ladymac.

 

[LadyMacAlpine]

Whaaat? I'm done! Whatever! as the kids say! I guess I'll just sit back and wait, maybe for little Alexandre to get into the frey-maybe he'll be dating as a late teener. However, this can't be true. I wouldn't think he'd have to do that, some lovely lady would love him when he's ready to commit.But in the meantime, happy waiting Ladymac.

Wait for what?

 

[Bahamagirl]

Hi everyone, I believe that this article is untrue like most of the other stories so far. I certainly hope that this is the case. If true, this just solidifies the feeling that Albert is not planning on getting married.

I pray that this man meets a decent woman who knocks him off his feet and he will be married within a year of meeting her.

 

[Ghislaine]

That article kill there fairytale romance I think whoever talk to Aktuelle didn't know that it was going to blow up in there faces. Think what people are saying Albert had to pay a woman to come with him to event. Remember last they did a poll about Albert & Charlene poll in this magazine was 64.8% yes & 35.6% no.

It's just a matter of when you look at the poll. Last week's poll started out 67 to 33 in favour of Charlene but after a week it stabilized at about 34 to 66 in favour of Charlene not being the perfect wife for Albert.

 

[goody7058]

That magazine hurt Charlene unstead of helping her.

 

[Freedom]

It's just a matter of when you look at the poll. Last week's poll started out 67 to 33 in favour of Charlene but after a week it stabilized at about 34 to 66 in favour of Charlene not being the perfect wife for Albert.

Now wait just a momentito ladies & gents, doesn't anyone think this is a chivalrous act on Albert's part. He is not so much paying her to escort him, as he is taking care of her. Do you not think she would be with him without any financial assistance from him? I think she and many woman would. When it comes to love, or even adoration, money has no role. Such means are of little significance to him. So, if he can take a financial burden off someone he cares for, to make her life a bit easier, why not?

If it became evident that she was with him simply for the money, that would be disgraceful. But something leads me to think that no amount of money could compensate for the loss of her privacy. In my book, the only thing that would permit me to surrender my privacy would be love. I hope she feels the same way.

 

[Katie]

1. "Die Aktuelle" is one of the worst German mags. I sometimes read it when I visit my aunt, I would never buy it, and then I find mistakes in almost every royality-related story. They are not well researched and fantasy always plays a big role when creating a story.
2. I am just thinking: A not so very successful swimmer meets a prince and dates him. That is the situation. I am sure Charlene could not afford buying all the clothes she needy to accompany him to these official events. Plus, she surely can also not afford the costs for the travels they make. So it would be more than okay for the very rich prince to pay for his not rich girlfriend, wouldn't it? I am sure Haakon paid for M-M, too, when they dated. BUT: I really doubt that "Die Aktuelle" of all the mags knows how much Albert pays for Charlene!

 

[rominet09]

You are right Katie

 

[amad1108]

Now wait just a momentito ladies & gents, doesn't anyone think this is a chivalrous act on Albert's part. He is not so much paying her to escort him, as he is taking care of her. Do you not think she would be with him without any financial assistance from him? I think she and many woman would. When it comes to love, or even adoration, money has no role. Such means are of little significance to him. So, if he can take a financial burden off someone he cares for, to make her life a bit easier, why not?

If it became evident that she was with him simply for the money, that would be disgraceful. But something leads me to think that no amount of money could compensate for the loss of her privacy. In my book, the only thing that would permit me to surrender my privacy would be love. I hope she feels the same way.

i agree with you with some things you said, i think charlene doesnot mind surrendering her privacy because she has fame that will help her in the long run, if she does not want her privacy put out to the people she will not pose for every magazine and mode cars and follow albert in every offical event and smile to the press and talk to them, she should have stay hideing and leave the people guessing . by the way she seems to enjoy every minutes of her fames got me thinking is she in it for love or for fame? will she be there if albert lost it all or will she run if all that happen?

 

[LadyMacAlpine]

i agree with you with some things you said, i think charlene doesnot mind surrendering her privacy because she has fame that will help her in the long run, if she does not want her privacy put out to the people she will not pose for every magazine and mode cars and follow albert in every offical event and smile to the press and talk to them, she should have stay hideing and leave the people guessing . by the way she seems to enjoy every minutes of her fames got me thinking is she in it for love or for fame? will she be there if albert lost it all or will she run if all that happen?

She was after fame when she became a swimmer. To use her body and push it to the limit for people to watch her. She's had one job as a bagger in a grocery store and she modeled bathing suits again to be looked at. She talked to the press after the first date with Albert and hasn't stopped that's someone who wanted her name connected to his from the get go and not love, but someone seeking fame on his coattail and wallet since she needed a new sponsor to support her. All his other gf's have had jobs. If he lost everything I see her as looking for her next mark. If Albert loves her I feel sorry for him.

 

[Ghislaine]

If it became evident that she was with him simply for the money, that would be disgraceful. But something leads me to think that no amount of money could compensate for the loss of her privacy. In my book, the only thing that would permit me to surrender my privacy would be love. I hope she feels the same way.

So far she hasn't lost her privacy one single bit. Apart from a few staged (IMO!) "paparazzi" shots, not much has been seen of her. In fact, it almost seems (to me) that she is locked up and is only trotted out if it suits Albert? And apart from the shots in Italy, I still haven't seen one single real paparazzi shot of her. What does she do all day? I've seen countless photos of the Casiraghi trio going about their business over the past years, but not a single one of Charlene? Please don't make her into a victim!

JMO

 

[rosalee]

As it is ...

So far she hasn't lost her privacy one single bit. Apart from a few staged (IMO!) "paparazzi" shots, not much has been seen of her. In fact, it almost seems (to me) that she is locked up and is only trotted out if it suits Albert? And apart from the shots in Italy, I still haven't seen one single real paparazzi shot of her. What does she do all day? I've seen countless photos of the Casiraghi trio going about their business over the past years, but not a single one of Charlene? Please don't make her into a victim!

JMO

I agree ...

Suspiciously, the ONLY time one really sees photographs seems to be when the Prince invites them in to do so. He HAS TO be building up the view that she is his partner. They are really only photographed TOGETHER and fairly intimate or profiled events.

P. Grace's mother smattered her to the press before her marriage to P. Rainer just to raise some money for a charity, back in an era when such "dalliances" with other men before marriage could have actually cost Grace her marriage to P. Rainier.

Now, I feel, if in 1956, such gossip from her own mother did not deter her future husband, I doubt a few chats about CW are going to deter PA from marrying her if he wants to.

She is young and agile and pretty and will probably have tall, blonde children with him. If he is looking for a mother for his children who keeps him happy and in good company, and someone with few previous socieyt ties, then he has possibly found a great wife for himself. They are probably just dating to see if they truly get along, hoping his sisters might like her more, and to get her used to living in the fishbowl. As it seems, he seems to control the press around her quite well. She might not be as "attacked" as other royalty.

R.

 

[sandsla]

Do you not think she would be with him without any financial assistance from him?

In a word, NO! And that should worry him! (JMO)

I think she and many woman would.

Well, from Albert's past, we can assume there is - it's just surprising that Albert is still interested in this type of woman? If you mean would a woman with integrity feel comfortable living off a man while just dating, No they wouldn't! (JMO)

When it comes to love, or even adoration, money has no role. Such means are of little significance to him. So, if he can take a financial burden off someone he cares for, to make her life a bit easier, why not?

Well, I guess it is a good thing he has plenty of money and supporting women is easy for him (this should make a woman feel special ) and I suppose that is why he is happy to be subsudizing most of the women he has dated in the past?

Money may have no role for him, but I have a very hard time believing a 30 year old women is interested in a 50 year old man, if he thinks on her part "money has no role" I can safely say as a woman myself, that he is kidding himself, if he doesn't think he is paying her to be an escort? Or if he thinks he is going to convince many others otherwise? (JMO)

If it became evident that she was with him simply for the money, that would be disgraceful. But something leads me to think that no amount of money could compensate for the loss of her privacy. In my book, the only thing that would permit me to surrender my privacy would be love. I hope she feels the same way.

Well, I don't think it becomes evident to Albert (just everybody else) until after the fact? The obvious seems to allude him. (JMO)

I'm curious if Albert has ever dated someone where he didn't open up his wallet? If he was truly interested in attracting someone that had any true feelings for him, he wouldn't open up his wallet so fast, but I think Albert is too afraid to rely on himself to attract a woman instead of using his money and position to attract women? And as a result, and that I have mentioned before I believe he attracts exactly what he advertises for? That is too bad, because he will never attract a woman who is actually attracted or in love with him, but he really doesn't seem interested in that? I believe the general public is pretty indifferent now to Albert or who he dates or who his potental bride is at this point? Except maybe his sisters, who understand that they all represent Monaco and the Monagasque at this point are beyond expecting anything special? I think if Albert actually married for love (both parties) that would be a novel idea! (JMO)

Personally, I might agree that no amount of money could compensate for the loss of privacy, therefore I wouldn't TAKE any compensation for it? But then I don't give interviews about my private life for publicity! Charlene made no efforts in keeping her privacy, I would say she promoted it early on! So, Charlene being compensated for her privacy is quite a stretch?

Well, I admire your effort on trying to put a positive attitude on it all, but I would say (IMO) if Albert has allowed him the same dillusions, Good luck to him

 

[LadyMacAlpine]

I thought I would put this in this thread. Tonight - Romances To Remember: South Africans In Love - Corlia Fourie

Love beyond romance

February 14, 2008

By Arja Salafranca

Human & Rousseau R150

Reviewed By Arja Salafranca

Francois Bloemhof delivers a sparkling piece of writing in Fairy tale with a shelf life? This examines the love affair between Prince Albert of Monaco and South African Olympic swimmer Charlene Wittstock. A great love affair? Hardly. This is essentially a speculation piece, the two have not announced any plans to be together, but this essay begs to be read for its witty cheek alone.

 

[rosalee]

Apparently he was dating her before his father died, many quiet "business trips" to South Africa for "benevolent" reasons? Please .. like there are not enough closer spots to help out. Is father apparently never liked her at the outset and less so once she blabbed the first date to the press. Albert always said he would marry AFTER his father died. Like a matter of fact. As a matter of sureness that he already knew who it would be and that it was just NOT a battle he was willing to wage with his father. One would think true love would be worth standing one's ground no matter what? It's not like Grace Kelly was of Royal Lineage. Pr. Rainier just did not like a certain absence of education and class of CW.

Funny thing is, in the last 7 yrs, CW has not done much to further her education or etiquette although recent protocol officers have been on hire to work with her. Thus her look changing to accommodate the Royal Family.

PA wants a playmate he can enjoy life with ... like in North America, people work to live and have fun .. not the other way around .. this way, he is VERY American.

His decisions seem to reflect his want of having a fun and happy private life outside of his "job" and right now that seems to be with Charlene. Frankly, there are grande CEOs all over the world with Barbies for wives who happily spend money, redecorate the house every year and plan tons of stuff for the children ... only attending high profile things when they HAVE TO to make their husbands look good. How and why would this be any different???

They appear happy ... he has orchestrated the press for some reason.

He is NOT one of the 20-something Royal Princes of the other Euro countries who have picked their brides and waited until they turned 30 to marry them. He needs to remember that he is almost 50 yrs old, the actual reigning ruler of the country he lives in, and that he cannot quit his job at the end of the day ... his job is 28/9 ALL THE TIME and so is his personal life, the barbie he chooses and everything that goes on in-between.

And I think, he is just a different person from his father. Raised differently. Not finding the same things to be important to him.

R.

 

[sandsla]

Roselee,

I think what you are saying is that Albert really has no respect for women! I kind of guessed that too! He doesn't ever see a woman as another human being, with any equity? But as something to be procured for his own amusement, he wants to be able to control a woman, so he only goes after women that are not very worldly and that are impressed very easily. Also, he should have learned by now, that women that pretend to play that game (that let him believe he has the upper hand), only do so for awhile until they turn the tables on him, once they get what they are after? I agree he is not looking for a woman that he needs to respect, he has only dated woman for purely physical reasons in the past it would seem, where it seems to prop up his ego in areas, where he feels insecure himself. Why we expect anything different or anyone different, that the world would respect and admire is crazy I guess, we keep thinking Albert will evolve. Well he talks a great talk about his visions for Monaco and humanity in the world, but if he chooses his partner for the reasons you mention, it shows he is not a very strong man and is immature and has many emotional insecurites - He won't really ever be respected by anyone, some people might let him hang around with some of them if they can use him to benefit from his financial position (just like the women he dates). This is not the 1950's, it was bad enough then, and that is why the 60's was full of women wanting a divorce. When it comes to women Albert does not strike me as a modern man that is current, with his disrespectful view of women which you have explained well! For his sake, I hope there is some real and lasting love if that is possible considering all that's been mentioned, so that the squandered opportunity will be worth giving up so much for? I think Monaco as a country will have to suffer for it? If he dates woman that he doesn't or can't respect, I'm sure he is smart enough to know the Monagasque or the rest of the world will not either? What a waste, it would be great to be proved wrong, but I'm losing all hope! Rosalee, I would take issue with the fact that this is an American idea! Maybe some CEOs and people who don't pay politically might not mind the very expensive Bimbo marriage and divorces. But from someone who has lived a few places abroad I would say it is less an American idea? Sarkozy? Not a chance that would be a possibility in the U.S.(IMO)

 

[lyraedro]

I can't fathom why he has no respect for women, considering that his mother was who she was and by all accounts devoted to her family. One would think he would greatly respect women.

 

[sandsla]

I can't fathom why he has no respect for women, considering that his mother was who she was and by all accounts devoted to her family. One would think he would greatly respect women.

My sentiments also, so what went wrong?

If Grace was alive would Albert be dating someone like Charlene?

From the quotes of Charlene's father in the recent press, her family doesn't seem to be a priority for Charlene? He sounds like he hadn't even heard from her? In the style they have promoted the relationship, pimping themselves and their relationship to the press. Who or how can one repect that!

Albert always date the antigrace! I think Charlene is the opposite of Grace and the pretense in trying to copy her only serves to highlight that point. Grace was more than a blond! I think people may have it wrong, Albert is not trying to date anyone like his mother, but the exact opposite?

 

[Bahamagirl]

Hi everyone, Sandsla you hit the nail on the head. I could not have said it better myself.

 

[olga101]

I thought I would put this in this thread. Tonight - Romances To Remember: South Africans In Love - Corlia Fourie

Thanks Anyway for the article. There are some refreshing love affairs there-at least people who have held their relationships together. A nice article for Valentine's Day. Perhaps we can all at least have thoughts of something lovely and not too much into the old A/Cw knashing of the teeth, same old same old.

 

[LadyMacAlpine]

My sentiments also, so what went wrong?

If Grace was alive would Albert be dating someone like Charlene?

From the quotes of Charlene's father in the recent press, her family doesn't seem to be a priority for Charlene? He sounds like he hadn't even heard from her? In the style they have promoted the relationship, pimping themselves and their relationship to the press. Who or how can one repect that!

Albert always date the antigrace! I think Charlene is the opposite of Grace and the pretense in trying to copy her only serves to highlight that point. Grace was more than a blond! I think people may have it wrong, Albert is not trying to date anyone like his mother, but the exact opposite?

If Grace was still alive I believe he would have married a nice lady before 30 and had a few children.

I agree Charlene comes across as the opposite as many of the other woman he's dated.

 

[LadyMacAlpine]

Apparently he was dating her before his father died, many quiet "business trips" to South Africa for "benevolent" reasons? Please .. like there are not enough closer spots to help out. Is father apparently never liked her at the outset and less so once she blabbed the first date to the press. Albert always said he would marry AFTER his father died. Like a matter of fact. As a matter of sureness that he already knew who it would be and that it was just NOT a battle he was willing to wage with his father. One would think true love would be worth standing one's ground no matter what? It's not like Grace Kelly was of Royal Lineage. Pr. Rainier just did not like a certain absence of education and class of CW.

R.

I haven't read this before what's your source?