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Old 06-17-2007, 12:54 PM
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As far I know, there is a "Park Hotel" ... not in Monaco... "Park Place????"... this article is !!!! another rumor!!! I don't know if journalist meat a monegasque and spoke with him about... love and wedding...Monegasque are horrified at Albert's comportement (parading with his mistress...)and they don't speak to journalists...about their prince's private life...
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Old 06-17-2007, 01:32 PM
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The body language in that photo is very interesting. They are very far apart for a couple in love. Her arm is grabbing at him as if to say "he's mine" while his are clasped firmly behind his back as if to say "there's nothing going on here." Their body language doesn't look as if they are in love. I don't even see love on Charlene's face; more like smug satisfaction.
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The body language in that photo is very interesting. They are very far apart for a couple in love. Her arm is grabbing at him as if to say "he's mine" while his are clasped firmly behind his back as if to say "there's nothing going on here." Their body language doesn't look as if they are in love. I don't even see love on Charlene's face; more like smug satisfaction.
actually in the pic they cut out Victor Lazlo, who is indeed much closer physically in the pic then Charlene. I also wonder about her elbow. It seems to have some weird thing sticking out. I thought it might be bone due to the somewhat twisted angle of it, but when I tried it out myself, I didn't have the same thing. ( I always knew there were a few things missing with me, but never would have guessed at the elbows )
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You're welcome. Interesting note on the sideline, the journalist of this little commentary (she used to be the spokesperson of the late German president Rau) says that the beauty of her job is all the things they know but do not publish and that they are more then careful about what they publish about the Grimaldis.

Here is a link to another wedding soon article. Obviously they didn't get their facts right as I would really love to know where there is a Park hyatt hotel in Monaco with view to the palace and I don't recall her being at the awards ceremony of the TV festival. Also it was the opening ceremony in Turin, the closing ceremony he attended with his nephew. Where either Grace or Charlene would have received a british accent I'd also like to know, one of them being American the other SouthAfrican, but I guess no tabloid can do nowadays without comparing each of Alberts girlfriends to Grace. As to what the Monegasques say ....Le Matin Online > People > Albert et Charlene: mariage en vue?
what I also like in the article it is the new version of her alleged relation passed with Albert

1. in 2001 : They had met in 2001 at the time of the meeting of swimming of Monaco: Had Charlene gained there the 200 m back and guess which had given the bouquet to him?
2. in 2002 : it is the prince, in person, who, at the time of the same meeting, had taken the first step by inviting it to dine. "Ask my trainer" had answered Charlene.
3. after the diner, he gave his number phone, and she lost his number phone... (this year she has already a boyfriend : a sportman... I don't remember who he is but I will search)
4. in comparison between her boyfriend and Albert. there is not photo, she chooses not to keep this telephone number (for her, Albert is not rather well) and to remain with her friend.
5. Her boyfriend a rugbyman didn't more her (he plate CW ) , she makes a depression, stops a time his drive,
6. after Mr. Mandela suggests to her taking again swimming, but there ooohhhh misfortune, more trainer does not want of her, she is too old, wounded, did not have enough medals...
7. she is necessary need somebody who opens the doors or the assistance to obtain to him a trainer ... the pope not being free, she remembers that Albert is always unmarried...
8. as Albert likes the Olympic sports, it goes to Turin, fact seeming that this meeting is fortuitous... and there it is... (her plan successful)
9. and 2006 : With believing about her, it was, for her, like a thunderbolt. "the only time where I felt my knees to tremble, she is with him. Albert has manners, charm, he can there be caught with the women ".
10. now she us makes believe that she had the thunderbolt after 6 years???
very strange, isn't this? the thunderbolt !!!! just now !!! no in 2001 nor 2002, now when she needs ... (wants participate in Olympique games in Pékin... ) finally if her desire is always to take part bus in it why now try hard of it since Albert is there, to all to pay...)
and she will become :

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actually in the pic they cut out Victor Lazlo, who is indeed much closer physically in the pic then Charlene. I also wonder about her elbow. It seems to have some weird thing sticking out. I thought it might be bone due to the somewhat twisted angle of it, but when I tried it out myself, I didn't have the same thing. ( I always knew there were a few things missing with me, but never would have guessed at the elbows )
I have the impression that Albert with his arm behind his back or then it is an adulterated photo because the arm of Charlene has the odd air, it is true that it forms funny angle... do have you have, you as the impression as this photo seems faked???
that does not stick with the remainder of the photo, if somebody here on this forum is an expert in photo!! can you say to us which is your impression on the arm of Charlene
if you look at closely the photos Albert has his arm (of his shoulder to the elbow) very short??? http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...bum/hgtyut.jpg

very strange photo !!!

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Old 06-18-2007, 03:02 PM
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There is apparently a new Bunte article on Charlene. Can anyone get their hands on it? Thanks!
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Old 06-18-2007, 03:23 PM
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that photo is very strange because of the the way the elbow is. unless she is very bony or has some kind of issue with her elbow there shouldnt be anything poking out like that. but that is just my opinion and i have never examine her personally.
as for the "smug look" i wouldn't pay attention because they are not marry or at least not yet.
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There is apparently a new Bunte article on Charlene. Can anyone get their hands on it? Thanks!
I read the article, but it is very obvious that Axel Thorer did not have accreditation or any other journalist from Bunte. He got most of his facts wrong. There was no bowling as he claimed, but bowles which is the French boule or bocce in Italian I believe. We used to call it boccia. Apparently he knows nothing of sports as he considers beach volley a cute sport, which in fact is also been in the Olympics in Sydney. So he is way off ridiculing the athletes when Ms Wittstock would have been a much better target in ways of manner behaviour etc. Now he even wants the scarve she wore turned into her trade mark? Please give me a brake. But I suppose Bunte does have a problem with getting accreditation for their journalists as they quite obviously do not employ any. I am surprised that serious journalists actually allow them to be put into the same category. In German there is luckily another more suitable word for them: Schmierfink.
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I read the article, but it is very obvious that Axel Thorer did not have accreditation or any other journalist from Bunte. He got most of his facts wrong. There was no bowling as he claimed, but bowles which is the French boule or bocce in Italian I believe. We used to call it boccia. Apparently he knows nothing of sports as he considers beach volley a cute sport, which in fact is also been in the Olympics in Sydney. So he is way off ridiculing the athletes when Ms Wittstock would have been a much better target in ways of manner behaviour etc. Now he even wants the scarve she wore turned into her trade mark? Please give me a brake. But I suppose Bunte does have a problem with getting accreditation for their journalists as they quite obviously do not employ any. I am surprised that serious journalists actually allow them to be put into the same category. In German there is luckily another more suitable word for them: Schmierfink.
Thanks paca it sounds like it must have been a slow week for news/gossip either that or the Wittstock family owns stock in Bunte. What a shame to ridicule the athletes while trying to promote Charlene. It's going to backfire against her in the long run. But then wasn't it the athletes who booed her at the opening?
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Old 06-18-2007, 08:59 PM
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I read the article, but it is very obvious that Axel Thorer did not have accreditation or any other journalist from Bunte. He got most of his facts wrong. There was no bowling as he claimed, but bowles which is the French boule or bocce in Italian I believe. We used to call it boccia. Apparently he knows nothing of sports as he considers beach volley a cute sport, which in fact is also been in the Olympics in Sydney. So he is way off ridiculing the athletes when Ms Wittstock would have been a much better target in ways of manner behaviour etc. Now he even wants the scarve she wore turned into her trade mark? Please give me a brake. But I suppose Bunte does have a problem with getting accreditation for their journalists as they quite obviously do not employ any. I am surprised that serious journalists actually allow them to be put into the same category. In German there is luckily another more suitable word for them: Schmierfink.
Hi paca
Thank you so very much for translating[ you should be working at the UN] and delivering the essence of the article to us.It is high summer in Europe and most are on vacation I believe.Sounds like this Axel Thorer is grasping for straws with Miss Wittsock's scarf transformed into her trademark. Slow newsweek.
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Old 06-19-2007, 02:44 AM
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I Think Albert & Charlene Just Friends. I Don't Think They Will Get Marry. But I Hope He Will Find Somebody To Love Him. For Him.
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Old 06-19-2007, 05:25 AM
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Hi paca
Thank you so very much for translating[ you should be working at the UN] and delivering the essence of the article to us.It is high summer in Europe and most are on vacation I believe.Sounds like this Axel Thorer is grasping for straws with Miss Wittsock's scarf transformed into her trademark. Slow newsweek.
The interesting thing is that in his blog he writes about the bad behaviour of some VIP doctor. Funny he doesn't mention Charlene's bad behaviour. Also when you look at his personal page that this man is not quite in this world. He claims that his ancestors founded Norway and all sorts of other things. I wonder whether Bunte know about his delirium.

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Old 06-19-2007, 11:19 PM
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Does it really matter if Charlene competes in Olympics? I wonder why her training is the matter of such debate. Maybe because if she prepares for Olympics it means she is not running for tiara. And if she doesn't train it means she might became MC princess. . I think she is irrelevant. I still believe she and Albert are hoax dates. She is just friend, companion but not a real girlfriend. So whenever she prepares to Olympics or not does not matter, maybe only for her.
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I think the reason why it is important is simply verify the veracity of what she says. It is her who continually claims that she is training and preparing for Beijing as we see her doing anything but. She is trying to give herself an image that has nothing to do with reality (and how different the Bunte image and reality are is sth that I recently had the displeasure to see). And of course there is nothing wrong with creating a false image for yourself. Hollywood actors do that all the time and they usually trip over it and the only people they are harming is themselves and those closest to them.

And in spite of Alberts proclamations of not wanting to marry anyone, they see him parading her around and worry that maybe he doesn't see the reality like others and that he might not tell the truth either. Unfortunately in their case it would be more at stake then a Hollywood image because Rainier has very closely linked the wellbeing of Monaco to its reigning familily. That works fine if you have a good Monarch who takes his work seriously. It is a different thing when you have to deal with a playboy prince who only occasionally drops by to show that he is still a little bit interested in Monaco and its people. In the future Monaco will need to disentangle itself from this dependance, but 2 years are not enough for this and especially not when one iconic member of the family is being commemorated everywhere.
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Unfortunately in their case it would be more at stake then a Hollywood image because Rainier has very closely linked the wellbeing of Monaco to its reigning familily. That works fine if you have a good Monarch who takes his work seriously. It is a different thing when you have to deal with a playboy prince who only occasionally drops by to show that he is still a little bit interested in Monaco and its people. In the future Monaco will need to disentangle itself from this dependance, but 2 years are not enough for this and especially not when one iconic member of the family is being commemorated everywhere.
Regarding the bold part, I thought Albert lived in Monaco? Does he not?

Regarding the red part, how likely is it that in the future the Monegasques will opt for a democracy instead of a monarchy? Is that even possible? Are there factions in Monaco now who feel that way?
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I think the reason why it is important is simply verify the veracity of what she says. It is her who continually claims that she is training and preparing for Beijing as we see her doing anything but. She is trying to give herself an image that has nothing to do with reality (and how different the Bunte image and reality are is sth that I recently had the displeasure to see). And of course there is nothing wrong with creating a false image for yourself. Hollywood actors do that all the time and they usually trip over it and the only people they are harming is themselves and those closest to them.

And in spite of Alberts proclamations of not wanting to marry anyone, they see him parading her around and worry that maybe he doesn't see the reality like others and that he might not tell the truth either. Unfortunately in their case it would be more at stake then a Hollywood image because Rainier has very closely linked the wellbeing of Monaco to its reigning familily. That works fine if you have a good Monarch who takes his work seriously. It is a different thing when you have to deal with a playboy prince who only occasionally drops by to show that he is still a little bit interested in Monaco and its people. In the future Monaco will need to disentangle itself from this dependance, but 2 years are not enough for this and especially not when one iconic member of the family is being commemorated everywhere.
Exactly the problem! A girlfriend who is constantlyl feeding the press information about herself (unlike other royal girlfriends who keep their mouths shut) and whose story seems to shift like sand in the wind. Swimming being the biggest and most problematic portion of her story. As for Albert he appears to go along with all this and seems oblivious to the welfare of his people. What a perfect couple and what a disaster for Monaco. JMO
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Regarding the bold part, I thought Albert lived in Monaco? Does he not?

Regarding the red part, how likely is it that in the future the Monegasques will opt for a democracy instead of a monarchy? Is that even possible? Are there factions in Monaco now who feel that way?
Well, officially he does, but since his enthronement he did not really spend much time in Monaco. not to mention that he prefers to saty up in Roc agel.

To the second, no they won't opt for democracy. That would be an option if residents were allowed to vote and be candidates as well. Otherwise you don't have such a high number of potential politicians and the risk of corruption would be rather high. I honestly don't think that a democracy in the sense of other countries would work. There are always factions like that and always have been (remember Antoinette married one of them at some point in her life), but there is not much support, probably because people don't think it would change anything for the better.
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In seno alla famiglia Grimaldi ci sarebbe qualcuno che digerisce a fatica l'ingresso di Charlene Wittstock a palazzo come fidanzata (e poi moglie entro il 2008, si insiste) di Alberto di Monaco: Stefania. ...(source: Novella 2000 via Dagospia)

In the bosom of the Grimaldi family there would be someone who barely puts up with Charlene Wittstock's steps into the Palace, as Albert's girlfriend ( and later his wife within 2008, as it is insistently rumored): Stephanie.

To the point that, amongst the reasons that have forced Albert to play for time in announcing his marriage, there would be his wishes not to hurt his sister's feelings. This malicious claim comes from German weekly "A".
Steph, after years of scandals, has got a first rank role in her family: she's at Albert's side at ceremonies, and she's become sort of the Principality's "minister of welfare", as a real first lady.

So are they in for a virulent fight among "Albert's women"?

This is just a translation.
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That's interesting Tosca. I don't know if I believe it, but it's interesting.
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As much as I can understand the sisters not liking Charlene, I doubt that it is really Steph. Rumour here has it that it is actually Caro and that she and Albert are in disagreement about Charlene. They don't think that either Albert or Steph would have Charlene come between them. I believe that last weeks aktuelle had an article with a similar tenor as they believe that Steph is the one with most to lose. Personally I don't think that this is the case. Steph is doing her thing as she has always done and she particapates in official event when she feels like it. It wouldn't surprise me in th least if she'd decide not to show at the red cross this year. With Caro it is a totally different matter. People know when she is not in agreement with sth or someone. And her avoiding to have any of her family being photographed with Charlene at the GP (I think there was only one pic and Charlene was seperate by a column from the trio) speaks volumes. It will be interesting to watch if he decides to take her again this year. I guess there would be a table for Caro and her people and another for Albert.
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I'm also more inclined to think that it's Caro that doesn't like Charlene rather than Steph.
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