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Old 02-26-2008, 12:05 AM
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I think the columnist (whose name I could probably look up if I really cared, but who cares, after all its not like I'm inviting her to my granddaughter's christening )

was being more than a little sarcastic.....

Quote from column:"[Prince Albert] is probably going to finally wed. He's been seeing one lady for a while. If I really cared, I could find her name. But who cares? You don't care. Not exactly like you're rushing to spell her name correctly for a place card in your L-shaped dining alcove, right? All I care about is reporting his probable this year's marriage before anybody else. " (My Bolding)

I think this is another one for the "For what its worth" file.

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I agree but any idea how many won't see it that way?
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Old 02-26-2008, 12:32 AM
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I agree but any idea how many won't see it that way?

Hmmmm... the many who don't recognize sarcasm when it slaps them in the face???

It is obvious the columnist doesn't think much of Prince Albert or the lady in his life. The numerous backhanded nasties in that column were not what one might call subtle. I'm sure that will also fly over the heads of millions and the rumor mill will start grinding big time.

My own personal opinion is that Abert will marry whom he darn well pleases when he darn well pleases. Whether or not he pleases to marry Charlene is anyone's guess. I imagine even Charlene doesn't have a clue.

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Old 02-26-2008, 12:40 AM
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Hmmmm... the many who don't recognize sarcasm when it slaps them in the face???

It is obvious the columnist doesn't think much of Prince Albert or the lady in his life. The numerous backhanded nasties in that column were not what one might call subtle. I'm sure that will also fly over the heads of millions and the rumor mill will start grinding big time.

My own personal opinion is that Abert will marry whom he darn well pleases when he darn well pleases. Whether or not he pleases to marry Charlene is anyone's guess. I imagine even Charlene doesn't have a clue.

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Considering before Christmas her trainier said she didn't know where the relationship was going because Albert hadn't said anything its likely she doesn't. That leads me to believe he hasn't said those three words "I love you".
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Old 02-26-2008, 05:57 AM
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The person who wrote that didn't hear him say in a Interview on TV during the last ski event that he had no long term plans with Charlene.
Ups... It seems I missed that interview as well. And how do questions and answers sounded exactly, LadyMac? "No long term plans with Charlene"? Really?
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Old 02-26-2008, 09:33 AM
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Considering before Christmas her trainier said she didn't know where the relationship was going because Albert hadn't said anything its likely she doesn't. That leads me to believe he hasn't said those three words "I love you".
LadyMacALpine, there is another interview directly with Albert at a charity event in Germany I believe, where he is asked about being a father and he says he'd like to be one again and when asked if Charlene would be the Mother he gets annoyed and tells them to stop.

Can anyone pull that one up for people to see?
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Old 02-26-2008, 10:59 AM
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LadyMacALpine, there is another interview directly with Albert at a charity event in Germany I believe, where he is asked about being a father and he says he'd like to be one again and when asked if Charlene would be the Mother he gets annoyed and tells them to stop.

Can anyone pull that one up for people to see?
You're talking about this one posted in another thread.

German to English looses something in the translation.
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Speaking of feelings: The world is burning, your engagement with Charlene Wittstock to celebrate.
Everyone asks me for years, because everyone wants to talk about it. I say: It will happen when it happens. But it is normal for the media to do things before their time want to see.

With all due respect: 50-year-old bachelor, of course, after marriage and children demand.
I am already father. I was not in the way I want it. But yes, one day I will return his father.

If Ms. Wittstock the mother of these children?
Stop. I do not want to speak.
If he gets annoyed enough by the questions he could end up breaking up with her if he isn't in love with her. Having fun with someone isn't suppose to be annoying all the time.
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Old 02-26-2008, 11:38 AM
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he says he'd like to be one again and when asked if Charlene would be the Mother he gets annoyed and tells them to stop.
I noticed this same attitude of his when asked a similar question by a young reporter for the Italian TV some months ago, even though she didn't cited Charlene at all. I was surprised at Albert's angry reply. Not the kind of reaction you would expect from a supposedly polite person, let alone from a prince.
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Old 02-26-2008, 11:45 AM
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I noticed this same attitude of his when asked a similar question by a young reporter for the Italian TV some months ago, even though she didn't cited Charlene at all. I was surprised at Albert's angry reply. Not the kind of reaction you would expect from a supposedly polite person, let alone from a prince.
I know for a fact if you get asked the same question over and over it becomes annoying to the point you do get angry.
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Old 02-26-2008, 12:27 PM
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Albert has been asked the marriage question for years and he responded the way he always responds. It's when it gets to the father questions that he gets a bit testy. Add onto that his response that he would like to be a father again and the reporter followed up with the obvious - Miss Wittstock whom he has publicly paraded around now for two years. Then Albert looses his cool and tells him to stop.

Seems pretty straight forward to me. He wants a family and he's not going to answer any questions about Charlene Wittstock. The most telling part is the last part.
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Old 02-27-2008, 01:23 AM
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Yes, absolutely, I even cannot imagine the same reaction from WA, Felipe, Haakon, Frederik, Joachim or Philippe if they would be asked the same simple question about their girlfriends, even if it was asked many times. Do you remember?
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Old 02-27-2008, 03:32 AM
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I think Albert gets tired of people asking him when you going to marry. Over and over and over again.
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I think that Charlene throw herself at Albert for fun. But it very inappropriate to do that kind of stuff with Head of State. Maybe Albert should tell her what not to do in public and what to do. You can look on Albert face and tell he not please sometime.
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Well, but if you don't want to be asked the same question, then stop giving interviews!

Seriously, here there experienced journalists posting on the forums, as I can assume from their posts. So they know much better than I do, that interviews, and consequently questions are usually fixed in advance.

Then if you don't want to be asked about your love life, do as Ducruet does when he says to the journalists that are going to interview him : " I do not want to talk about my children or about my relations with Stephanie!"
Or, if the journalist presses him, he can just answer with a no comment, without acting in anger in front of a camera, which is not so nice to the audience, and doesn't favor him.
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Old 02-27-2008, 12:02 PM
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Well, but if you don't want to be asked the same question, then stop giving interviews!

Seriously, here there experienced journalists posting on the forums, as I can assume from their posts. So they know much better than I do, that interviews, and consequently questions are usually fixed in advance.

Then if you don't want to be asked about your love life, do as Ducruet does when he says to the journalists that are going to interview him : " I do not want to talk about my children or about my relations with Stephanie!"
Or, if the journalist presses him, he can just answer with a no comment, without acting in anger in front of a camera, which is not so nice to the audience, and doesn't favor him.
Exactly, Tosca, and you would think he'd know that by now. But the way he conducts himself he pretty much leaves himself open to the questions. I agree all he has to do is say that he doesn't answer questions about his private life - especially about his kids. Ducruet didn't always respond that way. It's only recently that he has adopted that attitude. My guess is that he now realizes it could come back at him through his kids who will read it or see it on tv.
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Prince Albert News

The New York Post Cindy Adams has Artical on Prince Albert Might get married sometime this year check it out. we will have to see.
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European papers have been planning Albert's marriage for around three years now.

Nothing new.
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The New York Post Cindy Adams has Artical on Prince Albert Might get married sometime this year check it out. we will have to see.
I don't know how accurate that would be. I just read today on perezhilton.com about cindy adams falsely reporting that a pregnant Nicole Kidman was drinking alcohol at the oscars (or one of the post parties). Nicole's rep sent Perez a message that basically called Cindy an idiot and saying that it was not true. So, it kind of makes me doubt how accurate that article might be.
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sandsla and goody ... I agree with you both .. no disagreement here. I just think it's sad that she doesn't want to do anything else but follow him around .. there would be so much good she could do if her soul were in the true realm of helping Monaco move into the future. She stands in a careful place where nothing is important to her but her own gain and her eyes are only on the way SHE feels. Maybe this is what humans are supposed to do, take care of themselves? But there are children and Monegasques to consider.

But then, if PA is not eager to have her consider these things, what would compel her?

I am disgusted when I see "Charlene Wittstock helps to fight AIDS". What has she done to help fight anything? Apartheid? Can she speak on anything with true value? Or maybe it just doesn't matter? Some men marry women they are happy with apart from their jobs.

PA once said his future bride could participate in the affairs of state if she so wishes but would not actually have to unless she chose to. He said this after he was already dating CW. I am sure he meant what he said.

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This arguing is sad and maybe just a phase .. but still sad.

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Apologies-truly someone who must like the sound of her own voice!:)

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sandsla and goody ... I agree with you both .. no disagreement here. I just think it's sad that she doesn't want to do anything else but follow him around .. there would be so much good she could do if her soul were in the true realm of helping Monaco move into the future. She stands in a careful place where nothing is important to her but her own gain and her eyes are only on the way SHE feels. Maybe this is what humans are supposed to do, take care of themselves? But there are children and Monegasques to consider.

But then, if PA is not eager to have her consider these things, what would compel her?

I am disgusted when I see "Charlene Wittstock helps to fight AIDS". What has she done to help fight anything? Apartheid? Can she speak on anything with true value? Or maybe it just doesn't matter? Some men marry women they are happy with apart from their jobs.

PA once said his future bride could participate in the affairs of state if she so wishes but would not actually have to unless she chose to. He said this after he was already dating CW. I am sure he meant what he said.

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Again apologies for the much too long post!

Rosalee,
I agree, It is sad and hard to comprehend? It's as you have stated she seems very self serving, I don't know that I can say that is being human? Perhaps if she was starving & struggling for her own survival, someone might be able to make those excuses? But that is far from the case? As I mentioned before, Charlene more than many others in her country had a chance as an Olympic athlete where it has been said over and over "She represented her country" and with this she had a real chance to bring some focus to any issue if she had sincerely been interested? I think she is looking to escape her country, not represent it! (IMO) And for her now to be credited or connected to anything altruistic likes Aids, it should be kind of embarrassing for her? There was an article in an SA newspaper (?) written by one of her own that raised this very issue? I'm afraid that if Albert does not expect much from his own wife just as a person (as you mentioned), the issues he wishes to take on, or the work he does on his own, will not come off as being very genuine either, even if they are? It will make you wonder what it is that he actually appreciates?

I understand that not everyone has the opportunity to do something, like start a foundation or have had the chance to have accomplished some great achievement? But she has had a lot of opportunity, and knows what is required in the role she is after, or she wouldn't be putting so much lip service to it? You would think she would be doing all she could to show she is up to the job? Especially since she is on the record publicly for making these claims? I don't envy the microscope that Albert's wife is going to be held up to? But knowing that, I wouldn't want to be seen as less than genuine by not backing up my own claims (that I personally made public) without some actions. Even the plan to train for the Olympics seemed to be nothing but false statements (IMO) from the beginning? Had she at least done that it would have at least given her an excuse as to what she has been doing with herself? Since she has not seemed to have made any efforts to have any life of her own, it also makes her seem very presumptuous? If her plans do not work out with Albert? What then? Is she expecting a pay out from Albert? How can people not be suspect of this girl or her motives? What are her expectations for herself, if Albert does not want to marry her? Even if he did, she has not earned herself much respect from a public she would represent (IMO). I can't imagine Albert would let himself be forced into a situation by her, just because she wishes it, just because she has not bothered to consider her own life & future outside of Albert? I think she must be use to things coming easy for her, or she's happy with herself to just slide by, while making very little effort? (JMO) As an athlete, I guess I find this even more surprising?

No one should have to compel her? PA should not have to instruct her? She is a grown woman! Since she seems to have never had a real job, where most people are expected to take some responsibility for themselves without having to be told. Just as an average adult, one would expect her to take some initiative on her own, to be responsible for herself in some way? To want to contribute something of herself in the world? You would expect her to at least "express" an interest in something outside of Albert? I guess I should say "show" an interest...? Perhaps it is that she lacks this experience of ever having to take care of herself? It seems she has always had help as a swimmer or otherwise, and has not really ever looked to take care of herself? I was surprised by an interview she once gave, where she did not express much in the way of enjoyment for her sport, but was more concerned that as a SA swimmer, it wasn't fair that she was not getting more compensation that she seemed to think she was owed? She also seemed very interested in receiving acknowledgement? That was my take on the interview? I can't remember where it was published (I read it online). I believe it was before she was known to have been dating Albert and I remember she also mentioned that she was always falling on her head? I'm not sure if it's the lack of ever having a job or what? But she seems to have an arrested development? (JMO) Rosalee, did you ever see that TV show? Do you remember the SA girl that was featured in the show? Do you think she is still in Monaco because of those darn invisable locks? I think that show could offer some insight to the situation?

When PA mentioned she did not have to participate in the affairs of state, I thought he meant in a more serious way? Just by the virtue of being Albert's wife, it would be hard for her to escape this in some way? She will be representing Monaco whatever she chooses to do or not to do? I thought Albert meant she might have her own interests that are different or outside of his? I didn't realize he meant void of any interests? Like perhaps she might have different cultural interest, like the arts, etc...Or even her own career?
"Some men marry women they are happy with apart from their jobs."
Interesting chice of words? As long as they are happy, I guess everything would be alright? But it does make me you wonder about these men? I mean what do they talk about with their wives? Do they see them as an equitable partner? Or someone that is reliant on them and easy to control? Do they see their wife as something they can procure? What do they value in them? DO they value them? I really cannot guess these things about Albert? I do wonder if Albert enjoys challenging conversation, witty banter, a sense of humor, maybe someone who does have different interests than himself that he might find interesting? Is it important that his wife is someone who enjoys any kind of culture, the arts...? Or someone who like to read or travel, and they can enjoy or share experiences? Do they appreciate the same things? Do they share a common outlook in or of the world? I know it is said that they both enjoy sports (some sports), so I guess it would be nice for Albert to have someone to go to a Rugby game with? But, I can't imagine they want to race each other in the pool? Perhaps ther are other things we cannot know about? Perhaps Charlene has a very infectious personality? That is something without knowing her, we cannot know? I'm sure she must not be void of everything, Albert was attracted to her for some reason? Regardless, I hope he ends up with a woman who lights up the room for him? Always.
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